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Steve Petrick:

You may not have it both ways:

Either you are writing a STORY (captains log history, fiction or even a narrative describing a combat scenario.)

Or you are writing a SCENARIO, which by definition really should comply with the current rules set.

The next simplest solution is put it into a contextual context which, for either option, state the fact that there was an attempted mutiny onboard the Orion Light Raider.

you could mention that there were a number of Kzinti crewmen in the ships complement that felt that the ships captain (and loyal officers) needed the opportunity to experience what trying to breathe in space without a space suit was really like.

In short, while the rules do state that the only way to disable the self-destruct is with a friendly boarding action, there is nothing to prevent that boarding party being part of a disgruntled Orion crew.

If you do decide to use this approach, or something similar, you will need to adjust the Orion LR crew sized to account for the number of mutineers that died making the attempt.

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Wednesday, September 16, 2026 - 06:19 pm: Edit

To go back to the Amarillus:

According to the scenario data in Module Y3, the ship in question was in rough shape even prior to entering the WYN Cluster.

This was due to an attempted raid on a small convoy, which turned out to be... a pair of small Klingon Q-ships.

Notably, the Klingons had sent Marines over to the Amarillus during this action. As a result, the ship's self-destruction mechanism had been disabled, though the boarding attempt at large had been driven off.

The amount of prior damage to this LR is accounted for under (SH269.45); it's noted as having cleared the Radiation Zone's effects under (SH269.46); and is not permitted to self-destruct under (SH269.47).

So, my thought is this: if one was minded to swap out the large Q-ship (of whichever empire was initially in mind) for two small Klingon Q-ships, perhaps this "pre-WYN" incident could be the focus of the scenario being considered here instead?

By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Thursday, September 17, 2026 - 02:30 pm: Edit

Gary Carney:
Shows how much my memory has declined in that I had forgotten that scenario. I was trying, with this situation, to recreate the circumstances of the Amarillus without remembering that we had already done so in that scenario. Thus allowing me to explain a part of WYN history. I was also intent on explaining how this pirate captain helped create the Orion Pirate Cartel. Thanks much.

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Thursday, September 17, 2026 - 03:14 pm: Edit

SPP:

There's lot of published material out there to try and keep track of.

I myself had to dig around to try and figure out whether this scenario had been in a published SFB module, or was buried in a copy of Captain's Log somewhere...

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Speaking of prior damage, it's noted in (SH249.453) that the Amarillus had a phaser-1 in its port "wing" option mount; but that the prow mount and the starboard "wing" mount had both been destroyed prior to its arrival in the WYN Cluster.

However, while it doesn't formally specify what had been in the other mounts beforehand, scenario variant (SH269.62) suggests an "undamaged" LR with a prow disruptor and a pair of "wing" phaser-1s.

So, in terms of drawing up a new scenario (and story fiction piece) covering this "pre-WYN" encounter: one could perhaps take or leave the latter data point, in terms of deciding what the other two mounts on the Amarillus had held in them prior to their destruction.

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And so far as option mounts are concerned:

Over in the "Cluster Carnivon" timeline, the captured, repaired, and re-purposed Amarillus - now with an all-Carnivon crew - was sent back out of the Cluster in Y137, to gain further intelligence on the broader Alpha Octant.

It might be interesting to picture this ship with a disruptor cannon installed into its prow option mount, in lieu if... whatever it had installed hitherto.

By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Thursday, September 17, 2026 - 03:37 pm: Edit

As an aside, the Kzintis HAVE Q-ships in the middle years, availability date Y130, the "middle years Q-ship" in Captain's Log #45.