Hi.


Since the previous topic seems only to be concerned with the Alpha Octant, I was thinking that ideas for the Jindarian groups in Omega (such as the Jindarian Freehold) and the LMC could be dealt with here.

One idea I had was to allow the Jindarians to use tachyon missiles (presumably bought off the Bolosco, or recovered from Zosman or Maesron wrecks) as a partial substitute for fighter squadrons - as caravans could spare less individuals to stick into fighter craft, and would do with an automated attrition weapon.

Perhaps the Freehold has proper planetary colonies, starbases and whatnot, since it seems to be closer to the usual political entity we see in the SFU.

Also, the Magellanic Jindarians may well have only had old lasers when making the trip out to the Cloud, and developed or 'acquired' warp-tuned lasers independently from the caravans still in the Milky Way? (Or other Magellanic weapons, like Mass Driver missiles, for that matter...)


Gary

By Alexander Pitman (Dassadec) on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 05:12 pm: Edit

One of the things that you have to consider in making varient Jindarians is that the race and its technology are very old. Rail guns are a staple of the Jindarian concept that would have to be adapted to new environments.
In both the Omega sectors and the LMC there are large areas of unaffiliated space that could hold hidden Jindarian Empires. In the Omega sector new heavy weapons might be developed to supplement the powerful rail guns because the Jindarian ships can keep up with Omegan ships.

The hodgepodge nature of the omegan sector might present new modus operandi on different Jidarian Caravans. One possibility is that a caravan finds a mineral rich asteroid field and is contracted out by other races for mining purposes. Jindarians might be a subjugated race. Another possibility is that really dense asteroids found by a caravan lead to ships with extra armor (1.5 to 3 times normal).
Asteroid poor space might lead caravans to settle on planets, or to blow planets up to create their own asteroid fields. Imagine being the Trobin and coming across systems with that are entirely astroids and a star, or a few M class planets and nothing else. Finding systems with planets and no space debris 'at all' might be sign that Jindarians are near.

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 06:39 pm: Edit

Well, the only confirmed 'empire' is within the Jindarian Freehold (listed as JF on the Omega maps, as seen here - just rimward of the Vari-Maesron border) so that seems to be a prime candidate for fleshing out as a political entity - assuming that the Freehold is comparable to other small groups like the FRA and Qixa.


In the LMC, it seems that the Jumokians figured out how to build their asteroid bases by learning from the Jindarians present - who passed the data on to the Triple Pact remnants after the Andros showed up - so perhaps the Jindarian bases look a lot lke those seen for the Jumokians in C5.

It could be interesting to have the Jumokaians trade the warp-tuned laser tech to the Jindies out in the Cloud in the League's early days - part of the favours that the reptilians called in after the Eneen conquered Jumok, and the beginnings of a loose association between the two groups.


Gary

By Phil Shanton (Mxslade) on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 06:48 pm: Edit

Actually Alexander, The Jindarians have an empire in the Omega Sector; the aforementioned "Freehold" and are shown on the maps on the Omega Modules.

They are scheduled to appear in a later module (probably 7).

I think Gary's idea of variant Jins is cool, it would be like the FRA, which is Fed variant.

As such there ship designs would probably be closer to the types regular Empires have, not to mention types from visting caravans.

A tech mix would be good as well, but you'd have to balance it out so that the weapons work well with each other, reflecting the kind of happens after years of trail and error and experimentation by fleets to find the weapons suite that suits them.

Just a thought.

By Joseph R Carlson (Jrc) on Thursday, October 26, 2006 - 10:51 pm: Edit

As I understand a free-floating planet is known as a planetar; is called such because is not orbiting a star like a planet.

Perhaps the Freehold Jindarian could use a small planetar like hybrid between a starbase and planet (small). Since it would be an unique Jindarian structure the planetar could have ground bases on its surface even though it functions as a type of star base (under starbase rules i.e. it isn't mobile).

Jindarians I don't think would build metal bases (resources) or live on planets (gravity). This planetar base could have a bigger construction bay than the large shipyard cruiser and various ground bases (bombers, WRGs, military garrisons etc.).

Perhaps the Jindarian developed a metal-ceramic composite armor, which they applied to an LSC hull to make their version of a monitor.