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Star Fleet Universe Discussion Board: Star Fleet Battles: SFB Proposals Board: New Rules: (FD) New Drones: Drone Abbreviation Nomenclature: Archive through March 25, 2007
By Gary Bear (Gunner) on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 09:48 pm: Edit

OK, working in some suggestions, resisting some suggestions. We're getting there.

Changed the Internal Armor to be "IAx" and External Armor to be "EAx", where x is the number of damage points added to the drone.

Changed Swordfish modules from "SWx" to "Phx" where x is the type of phaser (ph-3, ph-2, ph-1).

Changed NULL modules to be "nx" where x= number of warhead spaces as null. (Fairly minor issue as I've never used Null Modules before, but it could happen.)

Added note that Type-VII, -VIII, -IX and Ph-1 modules are only carried by X-Ships.

Still resisting supressing Explosive Modules (and just making it assumed) and in changing the frames from Roman Numerals to Arabic (?) Numerals.

I'd look more input from others on their thoughts?

By Gary Bear (Gunner) on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 09:50 pm: Edit

Letter CodeDescriptionBPVYISAvailSizeWarheadsDamageDestroyEndRuleNotes
Drone Frames - Pick 1
I-Type-I Drone Frame0.065G1.01-43 turns(FD2.1)-
II-Type-II Drone Frame0.577/100/120L/R/G1.01-42 turns(FD10.33)1
III-Type-III Drone Frame0.583L1.01-425 turns(FD2.1)1, 3, 4, 9
III-XX-Type-III Extended Range Drone1.093L2.01-4100 turns(FD10.24)1, 3, 4, 9
IV-Type-IV Drone Frame0.065G2.02-63 turns(FD2.1)-
V-Type-V Drone Frame0.577/100/120L/R/G2.02-62 turns(FD10.33)1
VI-Type-VI Dogfight Drone Frame0.099G0.5NA2/4/8312 hex(FD2.5)1, 5, 6, 7, 8
H-Type-H Heavy Drone Frame0.0165G3.03-123 turns(FD21.2)18, 19
H2-Type-H Heavy Drone Frame0.0165G3.03-122 turns(FD21.2)1, 18, 19
VII-Type-VII X-Drone Frame0.0181G1.01.5-65 turns(XFD2.0)2, 4, 25
VIII-Type-VIII X-Drone Frame0.0181G1.52-85 turns(XFD2.0)2, 4, 25
IX-Type-IX X-Dogfight Drone Frame0.0181G0.5NA2/4/842 turns(XFD2.0)2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 25
Drone Speeds - Pick 1
S-Slow Speed0.065G-----(FD10.32)-
M-Medium Speed0.5165/166/167L/R/G-----(FD10.34)-
F-Fast Speed1.0178/179/180L/R/G-----(FD10.35)-
Additional Upgrades - No space consumed.
X-Extended Range0.593G----x2, x4(FD2.222)8, 9
ATG-Active Terminal Guidance (ATG)0.5126R-----(FD5.2)4, 23
EA20.5 External Armor0.2567L---+2-(FD12.0)10, 11, 12, 23
EA41.0 External Armor0.567L---+4-(FD12.0)10, 11, 12, 23
CAT-Catfish5.0121G-----(FD51.0)22, 23
SGM-Subspace-Guided Missile2.0156G-----(FD53.0)24
Drone Warheads - Pick up to space available for frame
e06Explosive0.065G-0.56--(FD10.41)20
e12Explosive0.065G-1.012--(FD10.41)20
e18Explosive0.065G-1.518--(FD10.41)20
e24Explosive0.065G-2.024--(FD10.41)20
n0.5Null Module, Half Space0.065G-0.500-(FD10.48)-
n1Null Module, Full Space0.065G-1.000-(FD10.48)-
n1.5Null Module, One and a Half Space0.065G-1.500-(FD10.48)-
n2Null Module, Two Space0.065G-2.000-(FD10.48)-
IA2Armor0.067R-0.5-+2-(FD12.0)10, 12
IA4Armor0.067R/L-1.0-+4-(FD12.0)10, 12, 13
IA6Armor0.067R-1.5-+6-(FD12.0)10, 12
IA8Armor0.067L-2.0-+8-(FD12.0)10, 12, 13
PRBProbe0.0152/155R-1.0---(FD6.0)17, 21, 23
MW1Stingray0.5168/171L/R-1.01xType-VI--(FD16.0)14, 15, 23
MW3Multi-Warhead-32.0175L-1.03xType-VI--(FD8.0)14, 15, 23
MW5Multi-Warhead-52.5170L-2.05xType-VI--(FD8.0)14, 15, 23
ECMECM0.0150R-1.0---(FD9.0)3, 12, 22, 23
PH3SwordFish (Ph3)0.5174L-1.0Ph-3--(FD11.0)14, 23
PH2SwordFish (Ph-2)1.0174L-2.0Ph-2--(FD11.0)14, 23
PH1X-Swordfish (Ph-1)2.0181L-2.0Ph-1--(XFD11.12)14, 23, 25
SP1SpearFish0.5175L-1.01+2--(FD14.0)14, 16, 20
SP2SpearFish1.0175L-2.02+4--(FD14.0)14, 16, 20
ADD1StoneFish0.5168/171L/R-1.01xADD--(FD17.0)14, 23
ADD3StarFish2.0172L-1.03xADD--(FD15.0)14, 23
ADD5StarFish2.5172L-2.05xADD--(FD15.0)14, 23


NOTES:

1. Type-II, -III, -V, -H2, and -VI drones are speed-12 (never speed-8) and do not get a speed "Letter" designator. (Type-III, and -VIs can be upgraded to speed-20 or speed-32) (FD2.21) (FD2.227).
2. All X-Drones (Types-VII, -VIII, and -IX) can be set to run at any speed and do not pay for speed upgrades (it's included in the X-drone frame) (XFD10.3).
3. Type-III ECM drones are R (Restricted) availablity for Klingon vessels (FD10.622).
4. Type-III, -VII, and -VIII drones include ATG at no extra cost (FD2.21) (XFD5.2).
5. Type-VI and -IX drones use warp-seeking guidance (FD2.56).
6. Dogfight drones (Type-VI and -IX) cannot be modified other than by speed upgrades (FD10.13).
7. Type-VI and -IX dogfight drones score 2 damage on ships, 4 on Size Class 5 targets, and 8 on Size Class 6 and 7 (FD2.54). They automatically destroy another drone (FD1.56).
8. Extended range cannot be added to Type-VI or -IX dogfight drones. (XFD2.222)
9. Type-III drones that add EXTENDED RANGE gain x4 endurance (100 turns), become a 2-space drone (Type-III-XX), but still have only 1 warhead space of payload (FD10.24).
10. External Armor cannot be combined with Internal Armor (FD12.131).
11. External Armor reduces the speed of the drone. See the chart to determine it's effective speed (based on drone size and speed) (FD12.132).
12. Armor (Internal or External) cannot be combined with an ECM module (FD10.443).
13. Slug Drones (drones with all warhead spaces filled with Internal Armor) are Limited Availability (FD10.63).
14. The following must be the "front" module in any drone with more than 1.0 warhead space: Multi-Warhead, Swordfish, Spearfish, Stingray, and Stonefish (FD10.402).
15. Multi-Warhead and Stingray warhead modules may purchase speed upgrades (if available) for their Type-VI submunitions (FD8.24).
16. Spearfish do automatic internal damage even if the shields are not exceeded. Their damage format is (Internal Damage)+(Shield Damage) per warhead. (FD14.21)
17. Only Orions can use the Probe module at the earlier Y152 date (FD6.0).
18. Type-H drones form a separate "pool" from other drone spaces for calculation of availability percentages (FD21.34).
19. Type-H drones are damaged by ADDs like shuttles, not like drones. (FD21.35).
20. Type-H drones cannot have Spearfish modules combined with Explosive modules (FD21.35).
21. Type-H drones cannot be configured as ECM or Probe drones (FD21.32).
22. CATFISH drone upgrade is available only on Frax submarines (FD51.0).
23. CATFISH can only use explosive, internal armor, spearfish or null modules (FD51.12). They cannot add ATG guidance.
24. Subspace-Guided Missiles are only available to the Qari and can only be applied to Type-I drones (FD53.11).
25. Only carried by X-Ships.

By Gary Bear (Gunner) on Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 03:40 pm: Edit

Email for Ted Fay on this subject that he asked me to post here. (Why he didn't, I don't know, but no problem.)


Quote:

It's good. However, as I'm sure you're struggling with, drone nomenclature can get long and complex, esp. b/c letters run together.

Suggest that a space appear between each nomenclature. You could also get confusion with type I drones and "IA" internal armor designation.

Ex: "I IA2 e06 M" would be a type I drone with 1 internal armor module and 1 explosive module, medium speed. However, IIA2e6M might be confusing as someone might think it was a type II drone at first.

Suggest that order of appearance in terms be required. Example:

Type of drone -> Forwards space 1 -> Forward space 2 -> rear space 3 -> rear space 4 -> rear space 5 -> rear space 6 -> specials -> speed. However, the exception is that you combine all modules of simlilar type into one deisgnation to save space. Note, rear spaces only apply for type IV drones.

Suggest using "Ai" for internal armor and "Ae" for internal and external armor. Less likely to confuse with Roman numerals that use a symbol that resembles the letter I.

Suggest using "G" for "ATG" guidance. Saves space and nothing else is close to the letter "G" for drones.

Suggest using Mw for multi warhead to further emphasize the difference.


Another example for Type IV drone with 1 space (2 module) MW in forward bay, one internal armor module, one explosive module, ATG guidance, extended endurance, fast drone:

IV Mw3 Ai2 e06 G X F.

Run together would be IVMw3Ai2e06GXF - also readable, but scarier.


I'm also not so sure about using numbers to refer to the actual bonus conveyed by a particular module. Personally, I would prefer to use a number to reflect the number of MODULES used up. That way you can very easily count the number of modules. By default, if no number appears the module is 1. You've probably debated this endlessly, though.

example, same type IV drone:

IV Mw2 Ai e G X F

Slightly easier to interpret IMHO.

Anyway, take it or leave it. Feel free to post my comments on the relvant topic.


By Andy Vancil (Andy) on Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 06:02 pm: Edit

I like G for ATG. I would prefer to keep the speed right after the drone type, and have frame additions on the end. As for forward vs. rear module, who cares? This matters when you are constructing the drone, as it limits the legal combos, but doesn't matter when you are trying to figure out what a drone is. If the drone is a 8/18 (i.e. type-4 with 1/2 space of internal armor and 3/2 spaces explosive modules), it doesn't matter whether the armor is in the front or back.

I would name that drone as 4Fa-MW3-GX. Or maybe just "Vera".

By Andy Vancil (Andy) on Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 06:03 pm: Edit

But really, we shouldn't get too caught up in how to notate the rarest of drones. The question is whether the system is usable for the most common use-cases. Consider a Klingon D7 with a typical drone loadout. Which notation is better:

123456
A4Ma--4M--1M3ME
B4MA--1M1M1M1M


or

123456
AIV-M-IA2-e18--IV-M-e24--I-M-e12III-M-ECM
BIV-M-IA4-e12--I-M-e12I-M-e12I-M-e12I-M-e12


If you have a Klingon fleet, how would you rather notate the drone racks for each ship? In a historical scenario where the drone rack contents are specified, which notation would you rather use?

By Gary Bear (Gunner) on Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 06:09 pm: Edit

I agree that the 1st is quicker to write and takes less space.

The 2nd is quicker to read with less deciphering of the meaning.

The question is; where's the best value?

By Ken Kazinski (Kjkazinski) on Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 06:53 pm: Edit

I personally like less less deciphering of the meaning.

By Tos Crawford (Tos) on Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 07:14 pm: Edit

We could also do away with IAx, IEx and Exx by just stating 8/18. That would shorten the above examples to IV-8/18-M and IV-10/12-M while being just as easy (easier?) to read.

As Captain I don't much care which module is in which space, as long as the resulting drone is legal and the result is easy to read.

By Gary Bear (Gunner) on Friday, February 16, 2007 - 06:49 pm: Edit

I've been scribbling a lot of drone notations to see what works better. Both intuitive to write and read.

I've really come around to the (Explosive Damage)/(Damage to Kill) notation.

My brain's still just wired to see drones by Roman Numeral. I(20)12/4
The Arabic Numeral just looks weird. 1(20)12/4

I like having the drone speed, here in (parenthesis) after the frame. If you have external armor, the speed would be noted here rather than having to look up what speed the drone is.

Examples of what I'm playing with:

I(20)-12/4
II(12)-6/6
IV(32)-18/8
IHX(20)ECM-0/4
I(20)-6/6
III(32)ECM-0/4
IV(20)ECM-12/6
IV(32)Ph3-6/8

By Tos Crawford (Tos) on Saturday, February 17, 2007 - 12:04 am: Edit

Given that the speed is consistently after the frame the paren may be redundant. And yes, this does mean I unexpectedly have internet access.

I like the fact that we are thinking outside the box and trying different things rather than just assuming the correct answer is obvious.

By Gary Bear (Gunner) on Saturday, February 17, 2007 - 10:03 am: Edit


Quote:

Given that the speed is consistently after the frame the paren may be redundant.



I20-12/4 vs. I(20)-12/4

II12-6/6 vs. II(12)-6/6

IV32-18/8 vs. IV(32)-18/8

IHX20ECM-0/4 vs. IHX(20)ECM-0/4

I20-6/6 vs. I(20)-6/6

III32ECM-0/4 vs. III(32)ECM-0/4

IV20ECM-12/6 vs. IV(20)ECM-12/6

IV32Ph3-6/8 vs. IV(32)Ph3-6/8

Too me that's a little run together. Does the parenthesis help to break it up visually? Or maybe not?

By Tos Crawford (Tos) on Saturday, February 17, 2007 - 10:39 am: Edit

How about
I-12/4-20 or I-12/4-M
with speed last.

I like -S, -M, -F and -F(24) for external armor. The problem is I've never really figured out what to do with speed 12 drones.

By Tos Crawford (Tos) on Saturday, February 17, 2007 - 10:41 am: Edit

Curious, why 12/4 instead of 4/12? Any reason? I'm used to people saying things like 10/12 and 8/18, which you have reversed.

By Gary Bear (Gunner) on Saturday, February 17, 2007 - 11:50 am: Edit

I prefer the actual speed numbers for 2 reasons:

1. It shows the effect of External Armor without you having to figure it out.
2. What to do about speed-12s. (Have I heard that somewhere?)

I really don't care about the order of (Impact Damage)/(Damage To Kill). Any reason why one before the other?

By Tos Crawford (Tos) on Saturday, February 17, 2007 - 01:10 pm: Edit

Different players use both so we should settle on one. I use 10/12, 8/18, 6/24, 4/12; the alliteration just seems to work better for me.

By Gary Bear (Gunner) on Saturday, February 17, 2007 - 09:43 pm: Edit

Works for me. Damage to kill before Damage on impact. (You have to kill it or it hits you?)

By Gary Bear (Gunner) on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 08:33 am: Edit

Thoughts on (parenthesis) around the speed or not?

IV32-6/24 vs. IV(32)-6/24

By Gary Bear (Gunner) on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 06:24 pm: Edit

We're looking at a format of:

F(S)MW-K/D

Where:
F = Drone Frame Roman Numeral
S = Speed in hexes per turn
M = Drone Frame Modifications (ATG, Extended Range)
W = Special (non-Explosive) warheads
K = Damage to Kill the drone
D = Explosive Damage on impact by the drone

Examples:

I(8)-4/12

III(20)ECM-4/0

IV(32)ATG-Ph3-8/6

IV(20)X-ATG-MW3-6/12

By Ken Kazinski (Kjkazinski) on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 06:29 pm: Edit

Gary,

I like the format.

By Gary Bear (Gunner) on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 10:27 pm: Edit

Based on the format, the abbreviations change at bit.
(It looks much better in Excel than it does posted here as a table.)

Letter CodeDescriptionBPVYISAvailSizeWarheadsDamageDestroyEndRuleNotes
Drone Frames - Pick 1
IType-I Drone Frame0.065G1.01-43 turns(FD2.1)-
IIType-II Drone Frame0.577/100/120L/R/G1.01-42 turns(FD10.33)1
IIIType-III Drone Frame0.583L1.01-425 turns(FD2.1)1, 3, 4, 9
III-XXType-III Extended Range Drone1.093L2.01-4100 turns(FD10.24)1, 3, 4, 9
IVType-IV Drone Frame0.065G2.02-63 turns(FD2.1)-
VType-V Drone Frame0.577/100/120L/R/G2.02-62 turns(FD10.33)1
VIType-VI Dogfight Drone Frame0.099G0.5NA2/4/8312 hex(FD2.5)1, 5, 6, 7, 8
HType-H Heavy Drone Frame0.0165G3.03-123 turns(FD21.2)18, 19
H2Type-H Heavy Drone Frame0.0165G3.03-122 turns(FD21.2)1, 18, 19
VIIType-VII X-Drone Frame0.0181G1.01.5-65 turns(XFD2.0)2, 4, 25
VIIIType-VIII X-Drone Frame0.0181G1.52-85 turns(XFD2.0)2, 4, 25
IXType-IX X-Dogfight Drone Frame0.0181G0.5NA2/4/842 turns(XFD2.0)2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 25
Drone Speeds - Pick 1
(2)Slow Speed, 1sp drone w/ 1.0 external armor0.567L---8/-(FD12.0)10, 11, 12, 23
(4)Slow Speed, 1sp drone w/ 0.5 external armor0.2567L---6/-(FD12.0)10, 11, 12, 23
(4)Slow Speed, 2sp drone w/ 1.0 external armor0.5067L---10/-(FD12.0)10, 11, 12, 23
(6)Slow Speed, 2sp drone w/ 0.5 external armor0.2567L---8/-(FD12.0)10, 11, 12, 23
(8)Slow Speed0.065G-----(FD10.32)-
(4)Moderate Speed, 1sp drone w/ 1.0 external armor1.077L---8/-(FD12.0)10, 11, 12, 23
(8)Moderate Speed, 1sp drone w/ 0.5 external armor0.7577L---6/-(FD12.0)10, 11, 12, 23
(8)Moderate Speed, 2sp drone w/ 1.0 external armor1.0077L---10/-(FD12.0)10, 11, 12, 23
(10)Moderate Speed, 2sp drone w/ 0.5 external armor0.7577L---8/-(FD12.0)10, 11, 12, 23
(12)Moderate Speed0.077/100/120L/R/G-----(FD10.33)-
(8)Medium Speed, 1sp drone w/ 1.0 external armor1.0165L---8/(FD12.0)10, 11, 12, 23
(12)Medium Speed, 1sp drone w/ 0.5 external armor0.75165L---6/(FD12.0)10, 11, 12, 23
(12)Medium Speed, 2sp drone w/ 1.0 external armor1.00165L---10/(FD12.0)10, 11, 12, 23
(16)Medium Speed, 2sp drone w/ 0.5 external armor0.75165L---8/(FD12.0)10, 11, 12, 23
(16)Medium Speed, H-drone w/ 1.0 external armor0.50165L---16/-(FD12.132)10, 11, 12, 23
(18)Medium Speed, H-drone w/ 0.5 external armor0.25165L---14/-(FD12.132)10, 11, 12, 23
(20)Medium Speed0.5165/166/167L/R/G-----(FD10.34)-
(8)Fast Speed, 1sp drone w/ 1.0 external armor1.5178L---8/(FD12.0)10, 11, 12, 23
(12)Fast Speed, 1sp drone w/ 0.5 external armor1.25178L---6/(FD12.0)10, 11, 12, 23
(12)Fast Speed, 2sp drone w/ 1.0 external armor1.50178L---10/(FD12.0)10, 11, 12, 23
(16)Fast Speed, 2sp drone w/ 0.5 external armor1.25178L---8/(FD12.0)10, 11, 12, 23
(26)Fast Speed, H-drone w/ 1.0 external armor0.50178L---16/-(FD12.132)10, 11, 12, 23
(29)Fast Speed, H-drone w/ 0.5 external armor0.25178L---14/-(FD12.132)10, 11, 12, 23
(32)Fast Speed1.0178/179/180L/R/G-----(FD10.35)-
Additional Upgrades - No space consumed.
X-Extended Range0.593G----x2, x4(FD2.222)8, 9
ATG-Active Terminal Guidance (ATG)0.5126R-----(FD5.2)4, 23
CAT-Catfish5.0121G-----(FD51.0)22, 23
SGM-Subspace-Guided Missile2.0156G-----(FD53.0)24
Drone Warheads - Pick up to space available for frame
/6Explosive0.065G-0.56--(FD10.41)20
/12Explosive0.065G-1.012--(FD10.41)20
/18Explosive0.065G-1.518--(FD10.41)20
/24Explosive0.065G-2.024--(FD10.41)20
n0.5Null Module, Half Space0.065G-0.500-(FD10.48)-
n1Null Module, Full Space0.065G-1.000-(FD10.48)-
n1.5Null Module, One and a Half Space0.065G-1.500-(FD10.48)-
n2Null Module, Two Space0.065G-2.000-(FD10.48)-
IA2Armor0.067R-0.5-+2-(FD12.0)10, 12
IA4Armor0.067R/L-1.0-+4-(FD12.0)10, 12, 13
IA6Armor0.067R-1.5-+6-(FD12.0)10, 12
IA8Armor0.067L-2.0-+8-(FD12.0)10, 12, 13
PRBProbe0.0152/155R-1.0---(FD6.0)17, 21, 23
MW1Stingray0.5168/171L/R-1.01xType-VI--(FD16.0)14, 15, 23
MW3Multi-Warhead-32.0175L-1.03xType-VI--(FD8.0)14, 15, 23
MW5Multi-Warhead-52.5170L-2.05xType-VI--(FD8.0)14, 15, 23
ECMECM0.0150R-1.0---(FD9.0)3, 12, 22, 23
PH3SwordFish (Ph3)0.5174L-1.0Ph-3--(FD11.0)14, 23
PH2SwordFish (Ph-2)1.0174L-2.0Ph-2--(FD11.0)14, 23
PH1X-Swordfish (Ph-1)2.0181L-2.0Ph-1--(XFD11.12)14, 23, 25
SP1SpearFish0.5175L-1.01+2--(FD14.0)14, 16, 20
SP2SpearFish1.0175L-2.02+4--(FD14.0)14, 16, 20
ADD1StoneFish0.5168/171L/R-1.01xADD--(FD17.0)14, 23
ADD3StarFish2.0172L-1.03xADD--(FD15.0)14, 23
ADD5StarFish2.5172L-2.05xADD--(FD15.0)14, 23


NOTES:

1. Type-II, -III, -V, -H2, and -VI drones are speed-12 (never speed-8) and do not get a speed "Letter" designator. (Type-III, and -VIs can be upgraded to speed-20 or speed-32) (FD2.21) (FD2.227).
2. All X-Drones (Types-VII, -VIII, and -IX) can be set to run at any speed and do not pay for speed upgrades (it's included in the X-drone frame) (XFD10.3).
3. Type-III ECM drones are R (Restricted) availablity for Klingon vessels (FD10.622).
4. Type-III, -VII, and -VIII drones include ATG at no extra cost (FD2.21) (XFD5.2).
5. Type-VI and -IX drones use warp-seeking guidance (FD2.56).
6. Dogfight drones (Type-VI and -IX) cannot be modified other than by speed upgrades (FD10.13).
7. Type-VI and -IX dogfight drones score 2 damage on ships, 4 on Size Class 5 targets, and 8 on Size Class 6 and 7 (FD2.54). They automatically destroy another drone (FD1.56).
8. Extended range cannot be added to Type-VI or -IX dogfight drones. (XFD2.222)
9. Type-III drones that add EXTENDED RANGE gain x4 endurance (100 turns), become a 2-space drone (Type-III-XX), but still have only 1 warhead space of payload (FD10.24).
10. External Armor cannot be combined with Internal Armor (FD12.131).
11. External Armor reduces the speed of the drone. See the chart to determine it's effective speed (based on drone size and speed) (FD12.132).
12. Armor (Internal or External) cannot be combined with an ECM module (FD10.443).
13. Slug Drones (drones with all warhead spaces filled with Internal Armor) are Limited Availability (FD10.63).
14. The following must be the "front" module in any drone with more than 1.0 warhead space: Multi-Warhead, Swordfish, Spearfish, Stingray, and Stonefish (FD10.402).
15. Multi-Warhead and Stingray warhead modules may purchase speed upgrades (if available) for their Type-VI submunitions (FD8.24).
16. Spearfish do automatic internal damage even if the shields are not exceeded. Their damage format is (Internal Damage)+(Shield Damage) per warhead. (FD14.21)
17. Only Orions can use the Probe module at the earlier Y152 date (FD6.0).
18. Type-H drones form a separate "pool" from other drone spaces for calculation of availability percentages (FD21.34).
19. Type-H drones are damaged by ADDs like shuttles, not like drones. (FD21.35).
20. Type-H drones cannot have Spearfish modules combined with Explosive modules (FD21.35).
21. Type-H drones cannot be configured as ECM or Probe drones (FD21.32).
22. CATFISH drone upgrade is available only on Frax submarines (FD51.0).
23. CATFISH can only use explosive, internal armor, spearfish or null modules (FD51.12). They cannot add ATG guidance.
24. Subspace-Guided Missiles are only available to the Qari and can only be applied to Type-I drones (FD53.11).
25. Only carried by X-Ships.

By Tos Crawford (Tos) on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 10:30 pm: Edit

Ah, now I know where you've been.

By Tos Crawford (Tos) on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 10:34 pm: Edit

A) III(20)ECM-4/0
B) III-20-ECM-4/0
C) III20-ECM-4/0
D) III-ECM-4/0-20
E) III-ECM-4/0(20)
F) III-ECM-4/0-(20)

I think I prefer B or D with '-' insead of '()' for speed.

By Gary Bear (Gunner) on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 02:43 pm: Edit

I like having the speed right after the drone type.

I prefer the () over - as the seperator for the drone speed, but not enough to fight over it.

Anybody else have thoughts on it?

By Ken Kazinski (Kjkazinski) on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 04:21 pm: Edit

Gary,

Are you going to check the information in the table against module Y?

Ken

By Gary Bear (Gunner) on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 04:34 pm: Edit

Yes and I've already corrected and added a couple of things. I just didn't want to repost the chart when the discussion was on the format to write the drones.

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