Mirror, Mirror...

Star Fleet Universe Discussion Board: Star Fleet Battles: SFB Proposals Board: STRANGE PLACES: Mirror, Mirror...
By Jeremy Gray (Gray) on Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 08:45 pm: Edit

I designed these ships years ago as a project "for grins", and decided to post them as kind of a Christmas present to my buddies in the SFB community....

Earth Empire "Basic Set" ships:

Earth Empire Heavy Cruiser

Earth Empire Light Cruiser

Earth Empire Destroyer

Earth Empire Frigate

Enjoy! Have a good a laugh! Drink some mead! Have a Merry Christmas!

By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 09:08 pm: Edit

Your DD image is also called a Light Cruiser

By Jeremy Gray (Gray) on Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 09:11 pm: Edit

Yeah, now that you mention it, I don't think I ever really finished the DD. Its kind of a mess as SSDs go.

By John Erwin Hacker (Godzillaking) on Thursday, December 25, 2008 - 04:27 am: Edit

Jeremy :

Do you plan on doing anymore ?

Just inquiring :) :)

"THE GODZILLAKING"

By Glenn Hoepfner (Ikabar) on Thursday, December 25, 2008 - 07:15 am: Edit

Jeremy, very cool!

By Loren Knight (Loren) on Thursday, December 25, 2008 - 11:47 am: Edit

Fun stuff Jeremy!

By Jeremy Gray (Gray) on Friday, December 26, 2008 - 11:27 am: Edit

John, maybe one of these days. I remember making these SSDs was painful. I've got some ideas for the DN.

All, the DD SSD has been fixed up. Use the original link above. You may need to refresh to see the changes.

By Michael Bennett (Mike) on Monday, December 29, 2008 - 09:00 pm: Edit

Jeremy, the only links I can see "above" are the specific links showing the SSDs of the ships and there isn't one for a DN.

By John Erwin Hacker (Godzillaking) on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 02:06 am: Edit

Jeremy :

All in good time there my man, I can wait :) :)

By Jeremy Gray (Gray) on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 10:13 am: Edit

Mike, there is no DN SSD done (yet). I'm a little bored today...might be a fun way to kill some time.

By Jeremy Gray (Gray) on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 01:29 pm: Edit

As promised...

Earth Empire Dreadnought

By Loren Knight (Loren) on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 02:00 pm: Edit

I sure do like your Captain's Refit idea.

By Kenneth Jones (Kludge) on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 02:27 pm: Edit

Looks nice. BPV looks a little low IMO. W/O actually doing a side by side comparison The Fed DN+ points at 207 compared to 195 for yours.

Somehow i think yours is tougher over all.

I picked the DN+ as the comparison for the Photon power matching the mega Photons.

By John Erwin Hacker (Godzillaking) on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 04:49 pm: Edit

Jeremy :

Nice looking DN man :) May "THE EMPIRE ALWAYS SHINE" on whatever it does.

"THE GODZILLAKING"

By Jeremy Gray (Gray) on Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 07:21 am: Edit

Ken, you maybe right. The unrefitted ship has the direct firepower of the DN+, and its better phaser arcs/turn mode, but the shields of an unrefitted DN, and power that's sort of in between.

The other target I had in mind: The fully refitted DNDW (195+25+8+25+8 = 161) in the ballpark of a Fed DNH (164). I think its fair to bump the base hull up a few points...it will all still sort of work out.

Any other thoughts. Ultimately, these are all about fun. They are intentionally nasty / borderline munchkin, but then this is the world of Mirror, Mirror. Please view with tongue in cheek...

By Jeremy Gray (Gray) on Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 09:08 am: Edit

One more (big one) for New Year's Day...

Earth Empire Heavy Carrier

Had a blast with this one. The fully refitted ship is fairly similar to an improved CVA I posted years ago. Depending on how the ship is refitted, it can be an absolute monster.

I've also included a couple of homespun fighters: the F-106 (an interceptor intended for CAP work as part of the "F" refit) and the A-12 (an improved photon fighter clearly way too over the top for "normal" SFB). I used F-15Ms instead of F-14Ms for the superiority group, just to be different. Finally, there is a "Captain's Refit" unique to this class that uses the option boxes and existing tractors to convert the ship to a SCS using F-111Ms.

It occured to me that perhaps these Mirror Feds don't use gatling-equipped escorts, but instead use the standard hulls with the "F" refit installed as carrier escorts. Gatlings would be reserved for carrier close-in defenses only, so lesser carriers than the CVA might include them as well, but the escorts would not. The escorts would also not include the any extra storage / cargo of "normal" Fed escorts and would only carry limited stores associated with the "F" refit. The end result would be more offensively oriented escort groups, and a greater reliance on fighters for seeking weapon defense of the carrier group. Again, different just for grins.

I also increased the BPV on the DN SSD.

Enjoy, and have a Happy New Year!

By Joseph R Carlson (Jrc) on Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 10:00 pm: Edit

Jeremy,

I really have liked these mirror-ships. Thanks for posting them. Happy New Year to you also.


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