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I imagine that the fact that the Tellarites are not a full member of the Federation is more a matter of what the Tellarites want more than what the Federation interests are. I sure the Tellarites are not willing to operate under all the conditions and responsabilities that are required from a full member and they are fully capable of providing for themselves the benefits that full membership would provide.

So they my have been involved in the founding of the Federation, and they surely had a hand in molding that government to something that suites them fine, not that they would want to be a full part of that.
No doubt that the Federation provides all the security and regulations the Tellarites would want... for everyone else. Would anyone be surprosed that any particular Tellarite captain knows ALL Federation space regulations? And also knows all those that might not apply to him?
And obviously the Federation Councel is well aware that the Tellarites often sell good to those who the Federation cannot. OF course, the Federaion can always sell what it wants to an associate member; nothing illegal in that.

Funny, I've heard the US/Israel relationship described similarly... by a certain girl toasting congressman from a few decades back.

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 12:20 am: Edit

The Tellarites are a founding part of the Federation... in the Franchise.

Bear in mind that Franchise Tellar Prime is (supposedly) in the same neck of the galactic woods as Earth, Vulcan and Andoria - or to put it in Star Fleet Universe terms, would take the place of 'our' Rigel IV in the capital complex.

Plus, the idea of the Tellarites being founding members in the Franchise is a relatively recent one - only really established on-screen long after the point at which the Franchise and the Star Fleet Universe diverged.


There is no reason to assume the Tellarites helped found the SFU UFP, any more than we should expect SFU Klingons to have brow ridges.

We have the Rigellians for that. (The UFP founding part, not the brow ridge thing.)

By Xander Fulton (Dderidex) on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 12:23 am: Edit

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By Mike Strain (Evilmike) on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 05:16 pm: Edit

FASATrek, LUGTrek, and DecipherTrek all describe Tellar as a Founding Member. Whether or not they are a Full Member or an Associate Member is probably up to the GM of the game (I can see the Tellarites, after helping to create the UFP, then taking Associate Membership status simply to aggravate the Andorians and Vulcans....)

All were licensed by Paramount.

By Phil Shanton (Mxslade) on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 05:51 pm: Edit

I too am disappointed in the exclusion of the Tellarites from the Y-modules.

In The Original series The Tellarites are founding members, in the episode with the Orions we see the Tellarite ambassador and the Andorian ambassador(actually the assassin) arguing and we find out they were rivals before the Federation was founded.

An overview here:

http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Journey_to_Babel_(episode)

By Steven E. Ehrbar (See) on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 06:19 pm: Edit

Reading the actual transcript of the episode ( http://www.chakoteya.net/StarTrek/44.htm ), I see no mention that the Tellarites are founding members or that they and Andorians were rivals before the Federation was founded.

A search of the transcripts of both the Original Series and Animated Series similarly fails to uncover any evidence the Tellarites were founding members of the Federation, full members of the Federation, or pre-Federation rivals of the Andorians.

By John Sickels (Johnsickels) on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 07:41 pm: Edit

This is a point of divergance between franchise and SFB. No way to reconcile it really.

By Loren Knight (Loren) on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 09:50 pm: Edit

Well, it seems to me that Steven just showed that there is not divergence since franchise Trek hasn't actually established the facts.

It seems to me a point where the SFU has filled in rather than diverged.

By Jean Sexton (Jsexton) on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 10:07 pm: Edit

I think you will be pleased with the information in PD Feds about the Tellarites. I'm not one to tease far ahead, but I honestly think the book will be released in July.

By Steven E. Ehrbar (See) on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 10:09 pm: Edit

No, there is a divergence. The SFU on Tellarites is fully consistent with the film as it existed in 1980. However, the Franchise since 2001 includes Star Trek: Enterprise, and that has a whole lot of Tellarite info that indeed diverges from the stuff established in the SFU prior to 2001.

By jeffery smith (Jsmith) on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 01:19 pm: Edit

Jean, unless the Steve's have decided against this i recently ask for the tellerite and peladine be included in Y3. i would ask that you not delete this yet.

By Jean Sexton (Jsexton) on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 05:48 pm: Edit

After consultation with the Steves, the decision was made to not delete the topic at this time.

Jean
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By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Monday, July 22, 2019 - 03:28 am: Edit

Somebody who does not work in the ADB building could whip up a few Tellarite ships and rules and send them to me.

Seriously, nobody told us they wanted Tellarites until after it was too late to put them in Y3.

Founding member: a data point added/changed to Trek decades after SFU followed the original data that they were a minor associate member known to make trouble and little else.