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Stacy.

Sublight?

You have warp tugs.

Heck, there is even a case in the Scenarios of a PC towing a fed DD in a glob of web.

By Mike Strain (Evilmike) on Friday, June 18, 2010 - 05:55 pm: Edit

*sarcasm mode OFF*

By Stacy Brian Bartley (Bartley) on Friday, June 18, 2010 - 05:57 pm: Edit

Mike
The last comment to "Mike" is the OTHER Mike...

OTHER Mike: Sarcasm is a poor substitute for wit...

regards
Stacy

PS Mike Grafton the scenario you describe was the Fed DD Ares and it was inside a globe of web and could only move one hex per turn. It was one of the first 3 Captain's Logs.

In a written ruling SVC said it took something like 900+ turns to prepare the web to be moved like that.

By Michael C. Grafton (Mike_Grafton) on Saturday, June 19, 2010 - 12:41 pm: Edit

Yah,

And thats with PCs and post diaspora when they've lost tech knowledge.

1) Their web is less effective
2) No Legendary Engineers
3) No special stuff lying around to use...

By George Duffy (Sentinal) on Saturday, June 19, 2010 - 10:21 pm: Edit

Follow-on question:

Would a Web-breaker break up the "Glob"?
How about the "Pinwheel" formation?

By Stacy Brian Bartley (Bartley) on Saturday, June 19, 2010 - 11:11 pm: Edit

Good question. For the web described in the Ares Incident - yes. For a Pinwheel I'd say no as long as the shields were up. As for the pin tail I have no idea...
regards
Stacy

By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Sunday, June 20, 2010 - 12:51 pm: Edit

"Would a Web-breaker break up the "Glob"?

The pin tail "Glob" would have been inside the joined shields of the two ships that made up the pin tail.

So long as the shields are up, the web breaker can't function against the web "Glob".

By George Duffy (Sentinal) on Sunday, June 20, 2010 - 11:45 pm: Edit

S.B.B. and Jeff,

That's not how web works with Tholian shields.

Tholian ships are allowed to pass thru web (with their shields active) whether they are Linear or Free Standing.

*(The pin-tail "Glob" would have been inside the joined shields of the two ships that made up the pin tail.)*

If that was the case then only one ship need to be Tholian... the other could be just any race

The same thing applies with the Pinwheel. The web energy phases thru the Tholian shields to latch onto the hulls of the other like-class Tholian ships.

Ships from other races are covered or ensnared by web

By Stacy Brian Bartley (Bartley) on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 12:07 am: Edit

George
Someone doesn't understand some part of this question, and I don't think it's me. The question is what effect would web breakers have on web in this situation. While I don't think the question has ever been addressed directly before. My feeling is that the web would be unaffected if the joined units shields are up.

But ultimately this requires a ruling from above.

regards
Stacy

By Terry O'Carroll (Terryoc) on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 01:52 am: Edit

IIRC web breakers are fired at a hex of web which is part of a strand of web. (Don't have the rule in front of me). The web holding a pinwheel together is not a "hex of web", so should be untargetable by web breakers.

By Stacy Brian Bartley (Bartley) on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 02:22 am: Edit

Terry
By the letter of the law, not sure about the spirit. Ultimately I think a ruling from high may be called for as this is something that never occurred to anyone before this...

Although if you're pinwheeled when Seltorians start firing web breakers you have more important issues at hand...

regards
Stacy

By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 02:31 pm: Edit

George Duffy:

Your statement "That's not how web works with Tholian shields", does not appear to be true.

See rule (E15.341) "Web breakers cannot disrupt webs holding together a Pinwheel (C14.23)."