Actually, I believe both sides need to download the SSD, only one side needs the counter however.

By Paul Franz (Andromedan) on Monday, April 22, 2002 - 10:45 pm: Edit

Kerry,
Actually, that is incorrect. Even if the one person has a graphical SSD the other player will still have at least a text-based SSD available. It is workable. Not exactly pretty but it still works.

Paul Franz

By Geoff Conn (Talonz) on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 03:42 pm: Edit

I seem unable to get a generic ship into play at all. I also seem unable to get the tholian pc into play even, as sfbol tells me that all ship definitions have to be in the sfb folder.

I am increasingly frustrated and fedup with v 3.

By Nick Blank (Nickb) on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 05:30 pm: Edit

Goeff, you need to set the default directory. Click the Options menu, and click the last item, also called Options. This brings up a small window, click on the SFB tab on this window. This lets you set a directory for shipdef files. The directory you pick can have different subdirectories under it, i.e. one for each race, but after picking the main directory you cannot grab shipdef files from outside directories.

For example I have inside my SFBOLV3 directory a SHIPS directory. Inside that I have folders for FEDS, KLINGONS, ROMS, etc. So under the Options, Options menu, SFB tab, I set the default directory to SHIPS. Then when I want to add a user defined ship in a game it lets me pick from the various race folders, but not from anywhere else.

Nick

By Paul Franz (Andromedan) on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 07:09 pm: Edit

Geoff,
Did you move the SFB Online client or the downloaded Tholian PC? If so, then that is the problem. Currently, all ship definitions need to be located in the "SFB Library" directory. This allows the client to load the embedded image in the ship definition without sending a possible large image over the Internet. To solve the problem do what Nick said.

Paul Franz

By Geoff Conn (Talonz) on Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 02:59 am: Edit

ITs set for the sfb dir. Downloading the PC setup a Tholian dir all by itself. Trying to put the PC into play got me a 'definition must be in SFB dir' error.

By Nick Blank (Nickb) on Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 03:47 am: Edit

Is the Tholian directory under the SFB directory? It needs to be to work. If the directory containing the ship def file is not somewhere under (inside) the SFB directory (folder), it won't work. If you have the SFB folder and Tholian folder side by side in the SFBOLV3 folder, it won't work.

You path to the PC should look something like:

C:\SFBOLV3\SFB\THOLIAN\filename.def

And that is assuming the Option: Option: shipdef path setting is C:\SFBOLV3\SFB

Then when you start a game and select "add user defined ship" you should be able to browse and find the THOLIAN directory with the shipfile in it under the SFB directory, and you shouldn't get the error.

Nick

By Geoff Conn (Talonz) on Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 02:00 pm: Edit

That all appears to be setup correctly. It looks like Justin had the same problem but magically it was fixed.....go figure.

Edit: ok, like justin, the pc now loaded fine. *shrug*

By Justin Royter (Metaldog) on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 09:05 pm: Edit

this aint never happin' is it? i guess sfbol is tournament only....

By Paul Scott (The_Rock) on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 09:10 pm: Edit

I guess it is. Maybe though, the best thing to do would be to start to encorge players who want to play non-tourney. The program is set up to accomodate a campaign, but the membership is, by and large, all tourney players. You should not be complaining that tourney players are not interested in a campaign, but instead, be actively getting campaign players to subscribe. That's just me though.

By L.LeBlanc (Lessss) on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 11:04 pm: Edit

Just waiting for the last few bugs to be squished from 3.1 before I start a campaign of my own.

By Justin Royter (Metaldog) on Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 12:02 am: Edit

Paul please tell me how I am complaining(by the above statement)? I was more or less asking....

By Paul Scott (The_Rock) on Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 02:50 am: Edit

I may have misread. Easy to do in text. I guess I would look at this as a question:

"Are we going to actually do this campaign thing?" Or something like that.

But you appear to be very negative in the approach. The first question seems defeatist and it is followed by a statement that you think sfbol is tourney only. It really does not look like a question to me, but more of a statement of frustration.

By Justin Royter (Metaldog) on Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 03:51 am: Edit

prehaps i am frustrtated, but I think that is neither here nor there. Nor, do i think it your place to make theses kinds of judgements. Then again prehaps the hat bestows telepathic abilties. Frankly, I am surprised at your interest and more importantly, your critisism. Your assuming alot here IMHO. Honestly, my post(and mild frustrastion, to be very, very clear) centered around the last post being sometime in april...I appologize for not being so concise earlier, and concequently provoking you.

By Geoff Conn (Talonz) on Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 02:51 pm: Edit

Well I too had some campaign ideas but mostly as a means to create bpv battles with a past and future, and allow players to decide what kind of bpv battles they wanted to play as well.

ie: no tech, exploration, etc. but straight bpv s.8 battles with ships culled from a standing fleet, with bonus bpv awarded to the winner to increase replacements (but not alot)

I have the rules in rough format already, and reviewed by Paul F. But the community seemed very split on what it wanted and V3 was...disapointing.

By David Kass (Dkass) on Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 08:03 pm: Edit

Geoff,

While I at least wanted something other than your suggestion, that doesn't mean I wouldn't play in that kind of campaign. I've also been waiting for a reasonably stable (both in terms of crashes and in terms of changes/additions) version of SFBOL that allows non-tourny games to come out.

Of course, time commitments are always an issue for me (especially since I just started the Frigate Campaign in PBEM).

By Geoff Conn (Talonz) on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 01:00 pm: Edit

I would still consider starting it if V3 ever became stable and playable. But I have real doubts over that.

By Matthew J. Francois (Francois42) on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 05:49 pm: Edit

After much debate, here we go...

Would anyone be interested in testing V3.2 by playing an Economy of Force mini-campaign? If so, or you just want more details, email me at francois@purdue.edu.

-Francois
francois@purdue.edu

By John Murphy (Jemurphy) on Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 03:08 am: Edit

MJF,

Is there enough ships for the individual races to do economy of force?

By Matthew J. Francois (Francois42) on Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 07:10 pm: Edit

Given an SSD, and a chunk of free time, I can generate a .def file with little effort. Getting them approved by ADB is a longer process, but if they're being used for personal use, that's a non-issue.

-Francois
francois@purdue.edu

By Les LeBlanc (Lessss) on Sunday, December 15, 2002 - 06:14 pm: Edit

http://alphastrike.topcities.com/CAMPAIGN.htm

Ok those interested in an online campaign using SFBOL 3.x read these rules and let me know if you are interested.

Main changes of note.
disengagement
No S levels of info. Uses full tacintel.
Fleets limited to 6 ships
The game will be broken into 10 year phases.
Refits due to threat.

Don't post replies here email me at Leblancles@hotmail.com

This will have multiple person Teams for each race so that battles will be done in a timely manner and if the Race controller disappears one of the other Team members can take over.

By Les LeBlanc (Lessss) on Monday, December 16, 2002 - 06:27 am: Edit

Use Netscape 7 for links that work. Apparently they work in Net 7 but not ie or opera. I'll need to look into that.

By Geoff Conn (Talonz) on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 12:39 am: Edit

Remind me again when V4 comes out.

By Paul Franz (Andromedan) on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 09:35 pm: Edit

Geoff,
Why do you say that?

Paul Franz

By Geoff Conn (Talonz) on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 02:45 pm: Edit

Because V3 is a hopless mess imo.