XP - Partial X Upgrades
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By michael john campbell (Michaelcampbell) on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 01:08 am: Edit

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Basically I'm talking about X-rules ships that don't have too much warp and too many phasers. It doesn't have to be exact box-for-box match but yes, I would like to see some ships mount non-P1 on X tech.


Well the Klingons would be the starting point.
Consider an DXL...the DX but with wing and waist Phasers being X1Ph-2s and only four Disruptors.
It'ld be a heck of a lot cheaper to build. A pair of 15 box X-warp engines might also be able to make it cheaper through pulling them straight out of the D5X stores and tweaking. In a lot of ways the D5X is the wrong ship to try this on but the Klingons are the right race.

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Tell me why an empire would spend close to the same resources on an X-Lite ship instead of a Full-X ship. Make that answer relevant to the ISC Pacification Program or the Andro War. What does a D5X-Lite give us that we'd want to spend part of the limited X-resources on it?


The ISC and Andro would be killing you ecconomy so you might not have all the money you want.
If the DX costs X F&E build cost and the D5X costs X-2 build cost and the DXL costs X-1 and you just having to have X-1 XP and the DXL is better than the D5X (whether shown at F&E scale or only SFB scale) then you would through you money into the DXL production to get the best bang for you current buck...assuming you didn't have to spend money on inventing the thing.

By michael john campbell (Michaelcampbell) on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 02:23 am: Edit

Maybe this belongs in X1R, but I think a DX with D5X engines and waist-wing phasers all being X1phaser-2s ould be good at fighting the ISC whilst a vessel with half the Wing and half the waist phasers being removed would be good for fighting the Andro...on a budget.

By John Trauger (Vorlonagent) on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 02:28 pm: Edit

Tos,

The key to answering your question is asking what a stategic speed of 7 gives us that a speed of 6 doesn't.

Sure an X-Lite ship could keep pace with a full-on X-ship under all circumstances. This is only of value if you expect to be routinely exceeding a strategic speed of 6. If you aren't, then a D5 light cruiser with a solid XP refit would do much the same thing at a reduced cost.

By Joseph R Carlson (Jrc) on Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 03:52 pm: Edit

SVC, or SPP,

Would you consider allowing PFs and fighters to use Type-IX drones carried in racks, on rails or in MW drones and stingray drones? Type-VI and Type-IX drones as warp seeker are self-guiding. The Type-IX drone is using its own guidance system so no X refit is needed for a fighter or PF.

XP refit with GX racks is already in the draft rules. X rules already state only X-schuttle-scatter packs can use X-drones.

Doesn't the Type-IX drones would use the same targeting rules for warp seekers and MW drones [(FD8.22) operations referrs back to targeting and operation rules (FD7.3)].

By Gary Bear (Gunner) on Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 04:00 pm: Edit

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X rules already state only X-schuttle-scatter packs can use X-drones.


See (XJ8.1) that allows "XMRS shuttles can use X-drones if so equipped..."

By Joseph R Carlson (Jrc) on Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 05:12 pm: Edit

Gary,

I used X-shuttle as a term for any type of shuttle. There could be other types X-shuttles released in future modules. Conjectural example: an E2 SWAC is a highly modified MRS (R2.F3); a highly modified X-MRS would becomes an X-E2 SWAC (the SWAC functions stay the same, it just can control X-drones [my opinion]).

By Gary Bear (Gunner) on Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 05:20 pm: Edit

And I was indicating that more than an X-Shuttle scatterpack could use X-drones.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 01:27 pm: Edit

That decision can be made by SPP, although I don't doubt that he'll run it by me first.

By Joseph R Carlson (Jrc) on Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 02:19 pm: Edit

SVC,

Thanks for responding. I will wait for SPP to post a response.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 07:31 pm: Edit

Tos: sift this file for anything usable and copy it into the new X1R file. Feel free to recruit help. I don't expect to have the luxury of doing so.

Topic closed. See the X1R topic.

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