Scary Ships (Andromedan Conversions)
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Scary Ships (Andromedan Conversions)
For Halloween,
based on the Captain's Log conversion article (forget which one)
http://s1138.photobucket.com/albums/n534/nicksamaras/
Whew! Definitely scary!
Shouldn't the cruisers' panels be 8/6 front/back??
Stewart,
Good catch, I will have to correct them.
Many corrections made and two new ships (Kzinti FF, Hydran DD).
http://s1138.photobucket.com/albums/n534/nicksamaras/?albumview=slideshow
Fed still has 4 panels in the rear. Check all your cruisers. That looked like a firm pattern on Oct 31.
John, I see 6 panels on the rear of all cruisers now.
I probably need to hit the refresh button then.
Should the Lancer really have 6/4 panels?
Should the F5 really have 4/2 when even the Tholian PC and Kzinti FF get 4/3?
John
Lancer: Yes, since the article states DDs get Mamba equivalent panels. I did give it a third TRL since this is a LAncer/Knight hybrid and the Mamba has 3 TRLS.
The F5 has 4/3 panels. One of the panels is in the rear hull for artistic purposes since I could not think of any better arrangement.
F5: I can see why, but the 3rd PA is easy to miss. I might have broken convention, stuck a block of 3 to the outside edge of the hull and put the label underneath.
The Lancer looks odd because andro satships with 6/4 are MC 2/3 units, not MC 1/2. Andro MC 1/2 units are cobras which have 4/3. It's strange to see captured and converted galactic ships getting a better deal than native-produced andro ships.
I don't have the captain's log with the article. You sure they said all DDs got 6/4, not just DWHs and other heavy DDs (RE F6)?
John, from the article
Size Class 2 ships: same as Dominator
Size Class3, move cost 1: same as Intruder.
Size Class 3, movement cost less than 1: same as Conquistador.
Size Class 4, Battle Destroyers and any ship with a movement cost greater than 0.5: same as Mamba.
Size Class 4, move cost 0.5: same as Cobra.
Size Class 4, move cost less than 0.5, same as Viper.
It is confusing. The Hydran DD is not a war destroyer, but is physically bigger than the Hydran DW.
However, your argument is sound. The Lancer is now 4/3 but loses a TRL and some power. The F5 was fixed to be less confusing. Thanks for your input.
Welcome. Hope I was not too pedantic. And even if I was...
The Hydran DW should get a 4/3 split too, as would most DWs. They all file under heading "SC4, MC 0.5"
It's the HDWs (MC 2/3) that get the 6/4 treatment. There is a lancer-based hydran HDW, too. I thought your SSD *was* the lancer HDW until I looked at its box distribution closer.
John, the confusing part of the article for me was
"battle destroyers" and any ship with a movement cost greater than 0.5 are same as the Mamaba.
To me, battle destroyers meant war destroyers (as in the Gorn BDD). Perhaps what was meant was ships like the F6 and such.
No, not pedantic all. The ships look better now with yours and Stewarts catches.
yeah "battle destroyers" could have been better-worded because there are DW wannabe battle destroyers out there.
They could have said "SC4, MC grater than 0.5", but I suppose there's some obscure exception where that doesn't work. 
I'm surprised HDWs weren't mentioned by name though.
Technically since the COQ is a MC 2/3 and also has 6/4 panels, the ADB could have said "anything with a MC lower than 1.0 and higher than 0.5 gets 6/4", but I suppose breaking it down by SC could reduce time spent answering the same question 500 times.
If you have never been on the "one" side of a many-to-one interaction like being SFB's publisher, it's hard to remember how many times people will ask the same question or send in the same proposal concept.