not to worry it is only a flesh wound.

By Roy Steele (Klingon_Emperor) on Thursday, March 15, 2012 - 02:15 pm: Edit

Clear!

By ROBERT l cALLAWAY (Callaway) on Thursday, March 15, 2012 - 04:43 pm: Edit

BLACK

By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Thursday, March 15, 2012 - 09:02 pm: Edit

I'm thinking that they look stunning in purple...

By Charles C. Coleman (Mwmiyd) on Friday, March 16, 2012 - 07:10 pm: Edit

Come back here! I can still bite you!

By Jean Sexton (Jsexton) on Monday, March 19, 2012 - 09:37 pm: Edit

Guys, I just looked at the topic here, and we need to move the U5 stuff to banter. I'll tackle it in a bit.

Jean
WebMom

By John D Berg (Kerg) on Monday, April 09, 2012 - 11:30 am: Edit

Due 4/26/12

By John Stiff (Tarkin22180) on Tuesday, April 10, 2012 - 01:28 pm: Edit

As you all may know, I'm partial to Darth Vader. I thought I would share this!


Darth Vader Strikes Back
There's going to be an extra scene included in the DVD release of EMPIRE STRIKES BACK coming up next year! Basically, it expands on the scene where Vader reveals his fatherhood to Luke, and ties up some loose ends created with the release of Episode 1 & 2...

The Empire Strikes Back: Extra-Special Edition

INT: BESPIN GANTRY - MOMENTS LATER:

A furious lightsaber duel is underway. DARTH VADER is backing LUKE SKYWALKER towards the end of the gantry. A quick move by Vader, chops off Luke's hand! It goes spinning off into the ventilation shaft. Luke backs away. He looks around, but realizes there's nowhere to go but straight down.

Darth Vader: Obi Wan never told you what happened to your father.

Luke: He told me enough! He told me you killed him!

Darth Vader: No... I am your father!

Luke: No, it's not true! It's impossible.

Darth Vader: Search your feelings... you know it to be true...

Luke: NO!

Darth Vader: Yes, it is true... and you know what else? You know that brass droid of yours?

Luke: Threepio?

Darth Vader: Yes... Threepio... I built him... when I was 7 years old...

Luke: No...

Darth Vader: Seven years old! And what have you done? Look at yourself, no hand, no job, and couldn't even levitate your own ship out of the swamp...

Luke: I destroyed your precious Death Star!

Darth Vader: When you were 20! When I was 10, I single-handedly destroyed a Trade Federation Droid Control ship!

Luke: Well, it's not my fault...

Darth Vader: Oh, here we go... "Poor me... my father never gave me what I wanted for my birthday... boo hoo, my daddy's the Dark Lord of the Sith...waahhh wahhh!"

Luke: Shut up...

Darth Vader: You're a slacker! By the time I was your age, I had exterminated the Jedi knights!

Luke: I used to race my T-16 through Beggar's Canyon.

Darth Vader: Oh, for the love of the Emperor... 10 years old, winner of the Boonta Eve Open... Only human to ever fly a Pod Racer... right here, baby!

{Luke looks down the shaft. Takes a step towards it.}

Darth Vader: I was wrong... You're not my kid... I don't know whose you are, but you sure ain't mine...

{Luke takes a step off the platform, hesitates, then plunges down the shaft.}

{Darth Vader looks after him.}

Darth Vader: Get a haircut!

By John Stiff (Tarkin22180) on Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 10:34 am: Edit

The Lyrid meteor showing is this weekend. Lyrids ==> Lyra ==> Lyrans ==> Rob!

By ROBERT l cALLAWAY (Callaway) on Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 01:29 pm: Edit

and you thought we couldn't blow things up

By John D Berg (Kerg) on Saturday, April 21, 2012 - 08:36 am: Edit

Welcome to the new Khol player.

Chris Newton
cln1967@yahoo.com

By Charles C. Coleman (Mwmiyd) on Saturday, April 21, 2012 - 09:06 am: Edit

Welcome Chris!

By ROBERT l cALLAWAY (Callaway) on Saturday, April 21, 2012 - 01:26 pm: Edit

welcome chris shoot at the lyrans and life will become interesting

By John Stiff (Tarkin22180) on Saturday, April 21, 2012 - 04:43 pm: Edit

Can John have fun with just the Qari as the lone NPC?

By ROBERT l cALLAWAY (Callaway) on Saturday, April 21, 2012 - 05:33 pm: Edit

sure because already set up the axis of evil put in motion

By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Saturday, April 21, 2012 - 08:27 pm: Edit

Wait, the Axis of Evil isn't all the Empires the Lyrans claim the Romulans are at war with? :-)

By ROBERT l cALLAWAY (Callaway) on Saturday, April 21, 2012 - 10:43 pm: Edit

no howard your not at war with at least one of them

By William Gary Glattli II (Wglattli) on Sunday, April 29, 2012 - 07:09 am: Edit

I am having to withdraw from U5 and am retiring as the Seltorian commander. I wish everyone success in this game in the future.

Saluting you all.

Gary Glattli

By Chris Reando (Sfbo11mav) on Sunday, April 29, 2012 - 05:50 pm: Edit

Welcome aboard Chris.

By John Stiff (Tarkin22180) on Monday, April 30, 2012 - 11:28 am: Edit

Hi Gary,

Keep in touch!

John

By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Monday, May 21, 2012 - 09:58 pm: Edit

Moved from the U5 Banter section to here (John, the Rules Q&A is, per the topic banner, not for "wouldn't it be nice if" type rules discussions).

By ROBERT l cALLAWAY (Callaway) on Sunday, May 20, 2012 - 06:14 pm: Edit

Howard if they are added to the SR automatical then they would take a MM conv slot if added to a CD sq then they would count as a navy conv slot. given the limited number of conv slots advailable it more likey they would be SR type

By Charles C. Coleman (Mwmiyd) on Sunday, May 20, 2012 - 07:29 pm: Edit

Would the POL be added to what can be built. i.e. you can build R1 SC4 or POL at an SB. Or would the POL replace the ability to build the R1 SC4?

I would still like to be able to build the R1 SC4 unit at a SB.

By ROBERT l cALLAWAY (Callaway) on Sunday, May 20, 2012 - 08:40 pm: Edit

You can build either, but you are still limited to one build per turn per SB. Thus either a F-PL or a POL/POLV can be build but not both on the same turn at the same SB

AA25 builds a POL AND LL33 builds a F-PL

By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Sunday, May 20, 2012 - 10:33 pm: Edit

Since you can call up for military service pretty much anything in the MM, those Pol will eventually end up being pulled into military service. The only ways around that (which don't involve tracking how a Pol came into being) are assigning them to the local defense forces at the system or outlawing calling them up (perhaps with an exception for when the HW is threatened). You could also add a rule to the E section and MM basic requirements for having X Pol, I guess.

By John Stiff (Tarkin22180) on Monday, May 21, 2012 - 05:51 pm: Edit

Argh...

The rules say that the MM can build a POL ship. Only things get vague. It doesn't say that building a POL ship counts as a conversion. It is not an R1 civilian ship. Why do I get the feeling that one needs a civilian shipyard to build it with MM funds?

By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Monday, May 21, 2012 - 10:08 pm: Edit

The MM can use military shipyards to build stuff that it is allowed to build- those SC3 (or SC2) R1 units, Police ships, fighters for systems built via MRR that have not been brought up to speed, etc.

At present there is no MM specific SY (I've gone fishing asking about that with John in the past...).

A Police ship in and of itself is not a conversion- it is a base hull. Putting words in Rob's mouth-
a) By the book Pol have to be built at SC4 SYs, which are typically better used for HDW, DD, or FF hulls.
b) Unlimited Pol production @ SB/SP/SF would be (possibly) unbalancing. If we count Pol @ those bases as against the conversion limit, you cap it at 1-3 Pol per turn and force players to make a decision.

By Charles C. Coleman (Mwmiyd) on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - 12:04 am: Edit

Howard, you forgot the first post:

By ROBERT l cALLAWAY (Callaway) on Sunday, May 20, 2012 - 12:57 pm: Edit


A suggested rule change.
under the crrent rules any SB can build a single R1 SC4 unit. I suggest that it be allowed that it could build instead that races POL ship and only that class of warship and that it must be assigned to the SR of the MMR or to a deacated CD sq

By John Stiff (Tarkin22180) on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - 10:41 am: Edit

Ok, that has been clarified. The POL is a base hull and requires no conversion slots. Thanks.

(E1.20) is the reference to MM shipyards. Though in my opinion, the civilian SC2 shipyard should be included as there are R1 units that require such a shipyard for construction. Wouldn't it be nice for the MM to have it's own shipyards, freeing up the military's shipyards?

By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - 01:50 pm: Edit

Ideally (IMO), you'd have two types of civilian shipyards-
a) the larger one that can build freighter or pod based ships (i.e. freighter based stuff like AxSCS, OAL, cargo pods, skids, etc.). They can only build the "civilian" grade or barely military grade ships based upon them. Maybe allow them to complete these units in a single turn instead of the two that a SC3/SC2 one would require by the book, as you are building blocks and putting them together instead of building a single ship from the keel up. Perhaps allow building of monitors in this yard too, although I'd not give them a faster build rate as they are military grade ships with slow tactical speed.
b) the SC4 Police ship yard capable of building military grade police (and only police) ships.

The uncommon (rare? nearly unique?) SC3 police ships like the D5I wouldn't be able to use these yards.

The reason I personally hadn't gone anywhere with this is that in my experience (which is admittedly not exhaustive), I almost always can get better bang for my buck building stuff other than Police ships -i.e. Q ships, AxCV, AxSCS, F-SS/F-SL, FRD. I've not gone fishing for such among the other players as I figure you might not wish to tell me I'm wrong. :-) Or maybe the Romulans just are chronically short on F-L/F-S so we never need to look for what to do with extra MM income.

Sidenote- the reason that we have a size class restriction is simplicity. John originally listed a bunch of hull types that you couldn't build. This broke when R8 (I think it was R8) was published and a bunch of new, and more powerful R1 units were published. Rather than having to constantly update the list as new ships come out, I suggested we go with the size class. While it means that there are a few corner cases that maybe should be on the other side, it at least doesn't break every time a new ship is published. [The fact that it slows down MRR support groups somewhat was also brought up- do you really want the UFP able to build nearly unlimited MRRs without burning military conversion slots (the GSC is a base hull)???]