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I'm not seeing it as number of phasers (or any armorment) that defines the hull. And I don't want to call it a XBCH either.

The X2 ship will have more powerful/flexable weapons so it's a trade off. What does define the XCC as based on the BCH is it number of hull, command facilities, shuttles etc. My XCC is closely related to the BCH but not a conversion. The number of weapons remain the same though there is a few additions. Certainly the warp and impulse engines are different.

The XCA has a similar layout as the NCA with a few additions. Not to mistake it or a refit though. It's clearly a new hull.

I am totally not looking for BCHX's. But am basing the RAW hull on the GW BCH to keep in line with what was written before.

Internal consistancy is important to me. It was said and should be done. That's why I'm not keen on the "X2 is smaller" concept. Also, I don't want to blatantly contradict canon Trek. The differences are many but it's a good thing to maintain some similarities. Myself and new players would expect it.

By R. Brodie Nyboer (Radiocyborg) on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 03:06 pm: Edit

I took the liberty of moving the BCHX conversation to the Generic X2 Hull thread. Not trying to step on anyone's toes; it seemed more appropriate there.

By John Trauger (Vorlonagent) on Monday, November 24, 2003 - 12:38 am: Edit

That thread is in use. Moved to "Major X2 changes."

By michael john campbell (Michaelcampbell) on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 06:59 pm: Edit

The Results of the Poll on the number of Disruptors were.

1)How many Disruptors should the Klingon XCA ( the X2 D7 analog ) have?

A) 4
B) 6
C) Some other number.


2)Should all Disruptor using races use the same kind of Disruptor.

A) Yes.
B) Yes but the Kzinti's Should use DCs.
C) Yes but Tholians should be able to shoot through web.
D) Yes But Kzintis should use DCs and Tholian should shoot through Web.
E) Every race should have it's own flavour.

1)A	||||\	5
1)B	|||	3
1)C	0	1
2)A	|	1
2)B		0
2)C		0
2)D	||	2
2)E	||||\|	6

Note 1 C was a vote of uncertainty but was included to make both totals equal.

By Roger Dupuy (Rogerdupuy) on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 05:01 pm: Edit

I've been very *gone* these past few months but I am glad to see the results to question 2.

Flavorful.

By michael john campbell (Michaelcampbell) on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 11:30 pm: Edit

To follow on from the Poll, that a large percentage of the players on these X2 threads want to see the game oriented around making the Klingon style of fight more effective
FLoating maps are btter for the sabre dance as are large fixed maps.
Plus there was in the poll 50% more people who claim that Klingon is their favourite race over Feds.

Which is why practically anything short of larger warheads is acceptable to some posters on these threads.

By Jeremy Gray (Gray) on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 11:45 pm: Edit

MJC, its also worth noting that I said I prefered the Klingons and a large fixed map, but I'm a supporter of the big photon. 5 players is a pretty small sample size to draw any definative conclusions.

That being said, I've flown both the Fed and the Klingon X1 ships plenty and I find the Fed ends up flying an awful lot like a poor imitation of the Klingon. It would work, but the photon accuracy just kills it unless the Fed player has some lucky dice. I really want to return to the pre-GW feel of the Klingon-Fed matchup in X2, but at the same time, I don't want to turn my back on X1. I'm not a big fan of the idea that X1 was a collection of dead ends. I think it is possible to do both, and hopefully the proposal I've got in the works will demonstrate that it is possible.

By michael john campbell (Michaelcampbell) on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 12:16 am: Edit

That being said, I've flown both the Fed and the Klingon X1 ships plenty and I find the Fed ends up flying an awful lot like a poor imitation of the Klingon

Absolutely.

By Mike Raper (Raperm) on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 08:03 am: Edit

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By Loren Knight (Loren) on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 11:07 am: Edit

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To follow on from the Poll, that a large percentage of the players on these X2 threads want to see the game oriented around making the Klingon style of fight more effective. FLoating maps are btter for the sabre dance as are large fixed maps.
Plus there was in the poll 50% more people who claim that Klingon is their favourite race over Feds.

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By michael john campbell (Michaelcampbell) on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 07:07 pm: Edit

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Such a conclusion is entirely premature

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By R. Brodie Nyboer (Radiocyborg) on Saturday, February 21, 2004 - 12:20 pm: Edit

MJC, I'm a all-time Fed fan and I don't want to see them left behind either.

At the same time I recognize the benchmark status of the Feds which means we have to be very careful about how we improve Fed technology because it affects everything else in the game.

I think that's why you see so many very conservative posts regarding Fed improvements. Just be patient with us.

Remember, nobody's in charge here so no decisions are being made. SVC will let us all know what he wants and doesn't want when he's ready. Until then it's all speculation and argument for us.

By Kenneth Jones (Kludge) on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 05:18 pm: Edit

Poll discussion in this thread. Not in the Poll thread itself.

By Tos Crawford (Tos) on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 08:36 pm: Edit

Format Practice, just ignore this.

By Tos Crawford (Tos) on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 08:39 pm: Edit

Format Practice.

By Ryan Peck (Trex) on Saturday, August 07, 2004 - 04:15 pm: Edit

SVC,

Where is this poll located?

By Loren Knight (Loren) on Saturday, August 07, 2004 - 04:24 pm: Edit

The Proposals board/X-Files/XP-Partial X refits

By Kenneth Jones (Kludge) on Saturday, August 07, 2004 - 07:29 pm: Edit

I don't think SVC even knew that this thread or the original Poll thread even existed.