I am thinking about making some 3G SSDs. I would start with the Romulans, since that's what I'm playing in my current campaign. I would probably do ISC or Federation next. Where do I get the art? Are there ships that can't be done yet because of a lack of art?

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Saturday, September 05, 2015 - 01:41 pm: Edit

Eagles: all phase 1.

National Guard general war, phase 1
National guard early years, phase 2

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, September 23, 2015 - 05:52 pm: Edit

When you guys email me asking for art, it would be really swell if you included the SFB rule number for the ship (or at least the base hull). That speeds up the process tremendously and avoids having me try to figure out what some of the obscure codes are for.

By Paul Franz (Andromedan) on Wednesday, September 23, 2015 - 09:47 pm: Edit

Steve,
Is all of the information in Module G3?

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, September 24, 2015 - 09:37 am: Edit

should be

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, September 24, 2015 - 10:46 am: Edit

Good to see all the progress. We have about 100 days until the 2Gs disappear, and I haven't seen anyone say "But I need XYZ for my campaign" so I'm feeling good about the upgrade. The 2Gs won't all get replaced before they go away but the guys should have managed to convert everything actually being used on line.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, September 24, 2015 - 11:15 am: Edit

Just processed a request for three obscure Hydran ships in half of the time because he sent the code numbers. All Hydrans and Feds (and most Klingons) are in the MSSB files by rule number so it's easy to find, and I just had to colorize them. Thanks for making it easier.

By Paul Franz (Andromedan) on Thursday, September 24, 2015 - 12:26 pm: Edit

Steve,
Do you need the section number or just the rule number? For example, the Andromedan ASP has a rule number of 24.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, September 24, 2015 - 01:59 pm: Edit

R10.24 or Andro 24 will do, either way. In the case of MSSB art it let's me find the actual ship. In the case of obscure ships it lets me find the SSD. Now, for base hulls (which I think I have done all of, but maybe not) just "heavy cruiser" will be fine. Every empire has ten or so base hulls that cover 90% of their ships. Obviously, those as the ones people request first as it means they have the most options of things to do next.

By Jason E. Schaff (Jschaff297061) on Friday, September 25, 2015 - 12:37 pm: Edit

Late September Update on Conversion Progress
(library as on 09/25/2015)

Does not include:
SC 5 and 6 units (NB - counts are lower than prior reports because I forgot the small and medium ground bases and SC 5)
Anything non-alpha
Simulator races
W- and Y- era units (except for Romulan designs that carryover into middle years and later)

As before, these might be a couple off due to filtering errors.

ANDROMEDAN: 0 done, 65 remain (no progress)
FEDERATION: 29 done, 198 remain (no progress)
GENERAL: 104 done, 65 remain (unsure of progress because of miscalculation last time)
GORN: 48 done, 125 remain (significant progress)
HYDRAN: 67 done, 100 remain (winner for major progress in the last month!)
ISC: 32 done, 57 remaining (no progress)
JINDARIAN: 41 done, 8 remaining (no progress)
KLINGON: 128 done, 94 remaining (no progress)
KZINTI: 143 done, 21 remaining (no progress)
LDR: 18 done, 43 remaining (no progress)
LYRAN: 52 done, 109 remaining (no progress)
ORION: 39 done, 31 remaining (minor progress)
PARAVIAN: 59 done, 35 remaining (no progress)
ROMULAN: 78 done, 166 remaining (minor progress, I think)
SELTORIAN: 0 done, 51 remaining (no progress)
THOLIAN: 32 done, 100 remaining (no progress)
VUDAE: 38 done, 16 remaining (no progress)
WYN: 60 done, 29 remaining (no progress)

By Jason E. Schaff (Jschaff297061) on Saturday, September 26, 2015 - 08:57 am: Edit

OK, did a more thorough cull of the remaining conversions list removing:
civilian units
bases
captured ships (except WYN)
some more Y- and W- units (missed a bunch of Gorn previously due to screwy nomenclature)

Remaining _ship_ conversion to do are:

ANDOMEDAN: 53
FEDERATION: 190
GORN: 112
HYDRAN: 89
ISC: 54
JINDARIAN: 6
KLINGON: 86
KZINTI: 17
LDR: 39
LYRAN: 97
ORION: 27
PRAVIAN: 2 (missed that the Paravians had their own .def's for all the "general" civilian units)
ROMULAN: 157
SELTORIAN: 44
THOLIAN: 95
VUDAR: 8
WYN: 28

By Paul Franz (Andromedan) on Saturday, September 26, 2015 - 07:21 pm: Edit

Email sent with background images to Jason for some Captured WYN ships.

Email sent to Steve Cole requesting Seltorian background images.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 08:03 pm: Edit

Forgot about the Selts and it's time to go home. Remind me again tomorrow.

By Paul Franz (Andromedan) on Monday, September 28, 2015 - 10:19 am: Edit

Email reminder sent to Steve Cole

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Monday, September 28, 2015 - 06:13 pm: Edit

Seltorians sent to Paul F. While I was waiting for him to answer a question I did all of the missing Selts so they're all done.

By Paul Franz (Andromedan) on Monday, September 28, 2015 - 06:42 pm: Edit

Seltorian Background images received and sent to Jason Schaff.

By Paul Franz (Andromedan) on Monday, September 28, 2015 - 07:24 pm: Edit

Checked the Klingon list and excluding PFs, looks like there are 88 ships not converted. Weird. Contacted Frank Lemay about it. Who might have already completed them but I have lost. Hoping that he will just resend. Otherwise, I will send background images that I have and request any missing ones from SVC

By Geoffrey Clark (Spartan) on Saturday, October 31, 2015 - 05:30 am: Edit

Greetings, V_Raptor and I are looking at playing SH28 Descent the the Hawk, which happens to require some additional units:

*R1.20 F-AS (plasma)
*R1.7 S-Q (Gorn)
*R1.28B FGB-M (ground bases from R1)
*R1.46 ?? (more ground bases from R1)

The scenario calls for a Large ground fighter base, but the Medium is all I can find the SSD for. They both can carry 12 fighters, but the Large is bigger?

These units exist as earlier gen (2nd) SSD only.

*R4.50 Thunderhawk
*R6.33 Police Frigate
*R4.PF2 Starhawks

I'm researching these new 3rd gen ship "SSD", which look like an FC diagram, but I can't see the shields or internals? I'm running Version 4.0.1.06, just upgraded, but no change.

I've watched all the movies that I found on the BBS and SFBOL website, as well as just clicking around the SFBOL client, but I'm still having some trouble figuring out how to use the new SSDs for good old SFB. I'm considering user-defined ships?

Please point me in the right direction, thanks.

By Francois Lemay (Princeton) on Saturday, October 31, 2015 - 08:14 am: Edit

Geoffrey,
I can do the Gorn Police Frigate later today.

Not sure who is doing the Romulan units.

I think the freighters have been done but not exactly sure.

Cheers
Frank

By Matthew Potter (Neonpico) on Saturday, October 31, 2015 - 08:22 am: Edit

F-AS is in General Units. Select the Plasma-F or Plasma-D refits after selecting the ship.

S-Q is in General Units. Select the Gorn refit after selecting the ship

FGB-M is in the General Units. Do not select any refits for the Gorn variant. ("Assault Fighter" bases replace the cargo with APR; used only with Hydran, Tholian, and other races which do not field seeking weapons on their fighters.)
I don't believe there is a larger version. ("Large" ground bases refer to orbital bases that are built on the ground (P2.7). Thus "Medium" ground bases are the largest of the traditional ground bases.)

GMG is in General Units. Select the Gorn refit after selecting the ship.

(R1.46) refers to Ground Bases found in ModJ2, such as Bomber Bases. I didn't see those units in the scenario, but regardless; they are in General Units.

By Francois Lemay (Princeton) on Saturday, October 31, 2015 - 08:30 am: Edit

Just sent Paul the Gorn FF.

Cheers
Frank

By Francois Lemay (Princeton) on Saturday, October 31, 2015 - 08:32 am: Edit

Geoffrey,
I can meet with you to give you a run down on using the 3rd Gen ships.
They are quite easy to use !

Let me know if you're interested in hooking up ?

Cheers
Frank

By Geoffrey Clark (Spartan) on Saturday, October 31, 2015 - 11:01 pm: Edit

Thanks all for the help.

Hey Frank, yes, I'll be around this weekend, and Mon-Tues, just let me know about a good time to meet. I'm on Pacific Time.

Regards,
Geof

By Geoffrey Clark (Spartan) on Sunday, November 01, 2015 - 10:41 pm: Edit

For the record, Frank and I were able to diagnose that once the client and the saved game file were current, the issues went away.

I've been able to get all of the units necessary for SH28, except I'm still having trouble with R1.7 S-Q (Gorn), not seeing that one in the General section.

These units are still 2nd Gen, but playable.
*R4.50 Thunderhawk
*R4.PF2 Starhawks

Thanks,
Geof

By Jason E. Schaff (Jschaff297061) on Monday, November 02, 2015 - 05:32 pm: Edit

OK. Latest progress update. The following items are excluded from these totals:
all SC5 and SC6 units
all W- and Y- era units
"Brothers of the Anarchist" units
auxiliaries and bases within individual imperial listings
all Omega, Magellanic, monster, and simulator units

ANDROMEDAN 53 left (no progress)

FEDERATION 188 left (minimal progress)

GORN 91 left (some progress)

HYDRAN 25 left (major progress - and a good chunk of what is left looks to be SFT/SSJ stuff)

ISC 54 left (no progress)

JINDARIAN 6 left (no progress)

KLINGON 86 left (no progress

KZINTI 15 left (minimal progress - almost everything left is tug pods)

LDR 39 left (no progress)

LYRAN 97 left (no progress)

ORION 27 left (no progress)

PARAVIAN 1 left (effectively done, since the one holdout is a superseded SSJ remainder)

ROMULAN 143 left (minor progress)

SELTORIAN 20 left (substantial progress)

THOLIAN 94 left (minimal progress)

VUDAR 9 left (no progress)

WYN 17 left (some progress)