I appreciate SVC allowing me a second chance to explain my proposal as the first had a misleading title and some factual errors. Thank you.

I am proposing an advance technology version of a Fast Naval Transport (FNTX). It uses the same engine as the X-prime trader (FTX) which are 8 box engine.The FNTX would have the same movement costs of the Fast Naval Transport 1/3. With 16 warp would be able to run away from any enemy.

With its X-technology, speed, and defensive phasers this ship can reach planets in need of critical supplies so that the Andromedans have a dificult time isolating planets from the supply grid. The ship can also keep up with fast moving X-Squadrons to provide supplies.

The weapons would be one phaser-1-RX, one phaser-1-360, and one each phaser-3 in and LS and RS mounts. The internals would remain the same as the FNT. Just as the FNT was sort of a larger cousin to the Armed Priority Transport (APT) so is the FNTX the a larger cousin to the Armed Priority X-Transport (APX) with the difference being the larger engine of the FTX.

The proposed FNTX has a turn mode of C and no HET bonus. The ship would have 14 crew and 4 boarding parties (the same as the FNT). The shields would be 14 boxes for all six shields ( an increase of 4 over the FNT). The sensor, scanner, DAM CON, and EX Dam are the same as the FNT. The hull frame would be built to handle the power of the X engines. The FTX has 4 hull boxes. The proposed FNTX would have the same, 5, as the FNT. The Fed FFX has 6 hull boxes. The proposed YIS is Y193.

Whether empire would build transport versions of the war destroyers (like a Fed DWTX) should be discussed in their own topic.

I am not proposing a X version of a standard freighter. This is a large transport and can't use skids, ducktails, or pods of any variety. It is constructed like the FNT and cannot be converted into auxiliary carriers, tenders, or warships.

By Jeff Anderson (Jga) on Sunday, May 24, 2020 - 12:27 am: Edit

Y'know, having had as many ships shot out from under me as I have (almost all of them ), you might think I'd be less inclined to say anything about relishing the idea of being the rabbit before the hounds, but this ship, as presented, seems to taunt the enemy (or pirates, or whomever) with, "Fast as fast can be, you'll never catch me!!"

That part of me LOVES this idea.

The other part asks if the higher cost of this ship is justified with how much its increased capabilities improve its ability to conduct its mission. How much faster is its strategic speed over the non-X FTN? How much greater is its range? How well does the improved "Combat Capabilities" of this ship over its non-X counterpart improve the likelihood of it getting its load through to its destination?

True, you did talk about it being able to keep up wit X-Squadrons, but would a ship like this be assigned to fly with them or to rendezvous with them, and if the latter, does the expensive X-tech make that more likely enough to justify the cost?

Maybe it's just the COVID news coverage making me an obnoxious, grumpy, caustic, annoying, irritating, foul tempered, antisocial, unpleasant, disagreeable, nasty jerk, but IMO this ship would likely not be justified by any empire.

On the other hand, it would likely work VERY well for "Raider Training" simulators. Perhaps deployment limited to that and its status otherwise to be listed as CNJ?

By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Sunday, May 24, 2020 - 12:17 pm: Edit

I am trying to get my head around the title “Fast Naval Transport”.

In Star Fleet History “Fast” in the description title for a ship often refers to technology. As in DNL type ships, or fast cruisers, fast destroyers or fast scouts.

I guess I am being a little “nitpicky”, but using the term “Fast” In describing a X technology ship flies in the face of the way ADB has delineated Fast ship technology in the SFH. Fast ships were developed before the General war, they were Effective, yes, but difficult to use, required extra maintenance, special fuel, and ultimately failed to be generally deployed in meaningful numbers in the fleet. (Most empires had 100+ ships in service, some empires like Federation, Klingons, Romulans, had more than 100 ships in service in year 168. The percentage of fast ships in service never amounted to more than 20% of the total fleet. In some cases they May have approached 20% of the total ships in a class (like CA vs CF both being in the heavy cruiser types)).

I am not opposed to what a Joe is proposing, indeed, I haven’t even BEGUN to share my views yet! (Grin.)

I do feel, that the use of the word “fast” in the title/description is contradictory in as far as, the word fast implies that this is a Year 160’s YIS design, when in actual fact, Joe is proposing a Xtech vessel that gets introduced around year 192.

Words mean things, and I do sincerely believe that Joe, with the best of intentions, mixed up the established terminology of two different technology lines. One was fast ship tech from the pre General War years, and the other is X technology more appropriate to the Andromedan War.

The simple fix, is to rename it “x technology Naval Transport”. Or something else that drops the word fast.

By Joe Carlson (Jrc) on Sunday, May 24, 2020 - 02:59 pm: Edit

All comments are appreciated