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By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Sunday, October 03, 2021 - 07:55 am: Edit

On a different, but connected front, signups for Sapphire 9 are now happening (check the Sapphire 9 thread).

By Seth Shimansky (Kingzila) on Monday, October 04, 2021 - 09:36 am: Edit

kingzila Hyd over Hood Rom KR

If I knew he wanted to dance with me r2 on t1 I would of armed my fusions.

I have no idea of the tree so who is next?

By Andy Koch (Droid) on Monday, October 04, 2021 - 12:37 pm: Edit

Seth,
According to the handy dandy tree that Geof made... you play Geof in his Neo-Tholian

By Seth Shimansky (Kingzila) on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 - 07:03 pm: Edit

spartan over kingzila

it was so fast and ugly i cant bring myself to write about it. Well play Mr Spartan.

By Geoffrey Clark (Spartan) on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 - 07:37 pm: Edit

Thanks Seth, it was a great game.

Normally, I play the TKR, so Tholians with their cast web can be tricky to play. I had been thinking about how the Neo might play turn 1 in an aggressive way. This is how it went.

Turn 1 - I had a 15-17-30-26 plot, with standards and 4 in tractor, holding one WW. Rom had a 15-20-31 plot. Neo turns in early, then turns in again to approach one hex off centerline. About range 14, Rom launches 2x30s, and Neo immediately casts two hexes of web, about 5 hexes in front of plasma. Rom slips out a bit, while Neo centerlines plasma so it gets stuck in web. No one turns off, so we are getting pretty close. Impulse 27 from range 3, Neo moves forward into the other web hex, and Rom turns in to centerline at range 1 off of the Neo's #2 shield. Both ships fire an alpha here. Neo fires 4xStd, 5xPh-1, 3xPh-3, hits with DISR, so does 61 total, sees 8 reinforcement for a total of 23 in ... 7 power total, 3 btty, 3 phaser. Rom bolts and phasers, hits with Sx1, Fx1, does 59 total, sees 5 reinforcement (btty), and does 24 internals, hitting snare, 3 phaser, 2 power and 1 btty. Next imp, Neo slips into Rom's hex, and Rom slips out so he is off the Neo's #6, showing his #5. Neo attempts to tractor with 1 and gets a tractor. Seth thinks about it and concedes shortly thereafter.

This game really hinged on luck, as if the Rom had hit with 3 or 4 bolts, then the Tholian would be much worse off, progressively. Still might have been able to scar the Romulan turn 2 with range 1 DISR fire and phasers, but there it would be touch and go.

Thanks again Seth!

By Geoffrey Clark (Spartan) on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 - 07:41 pm: Edit

It seems like the winner of Bill's Firehawk and Ron's Gorn plays against my KR in the final. Plasma for sure.

Since this is the masters, it seems like big plasma is on a losing streak?

By Ronald J. Brimeyer (Captainron) on Sunday, October 24, 2021 - 11:12 am: Edit

Bill and I will start our game Monday 8 p.m. central.

By Bill Schoeller (Bills) on Monday, October 25, 2021 - 09:48 pm: Edit

I defeated Captain Ron.

By Geoffrey Clark (Spartan) on Monday, October 25, 2021 - 10:02 pm: Edit

Congratulations Bill.

I'll email about scheduling the final game.

By Geoffrey Clark (Spartan) on Monday, November 01, 2021 - 02:15 am: Edit

Hey Bill,

Are you getting my emails? Any idea of schedule?

Regards,
Geof

By Geoffrey Clark (Spartan) on Tuesday, November 02, 2021 - 10:48 am: Edit

Masters final, BS in Gorn vs Spartan in KR, Tuesday 17:00 CDT.

By Geoffrey Clark (Spartan) on Tuesday, November 02, 2021 - 09:45 pm: Edit

Spartan's KR vs BS's Gorn, Masters final

Turn 1 - Rom has a 28-21-26 split, with 5 reinforcement on the #5. Gorn moves 15-16-26, with 6 reinforcement on the #6. Rom slips in a few times, Gorn moves straight forward. About range 8, Rom launches 2xS, imp 19, and turns out (starboard). Gorn moves in a few times, then also turns out (starboard). Gorn runs plasma out, Rom turns back in to pursue. Imp 31, range 2, Gorn fires 2xph-3 at one, 3xph-3 at the other, 4 off warhead of both.

Turn 2 - Rom has 21-28-26 plot, Gorn is 26 all turn. Rom continues to pursue, turning to port, Gorn runs plasma out to 15th move, then turns to port, and finds one is real, hits the #5 for 11 pts, no reinforcement. Gorns moves along towards south wall, Rom is pursuing, and angling towards Gorn's #5. Rom would almost get to range 5 (kinda makes a mistake on movement ...), but settles for range 6 phaser shot on 2/16, rolls well, does 17. Gorn reinforces for 5, leaving 1 box. Rom turns out (starboard), and circles around, Gorn turns up (port) and fires 4xph-1s range 8 on the Rom's #4, scores 8, no reinforcement. Gorn moves up the middle of the map. Toward the end of the turn, Rom turns in (starboard), and range is getting close, turn ends at range 4 on the hex spine Rom's #2/#3, Gorn's #6/#1. Rom launches 50 pts here.

Turn 3 - Rom has 26-31-21 plot, Gorn has 26-31-15-7 plot. Plasma move to range 3 on imp 1, Gorn slips in on imp 2, Rom slips out, plasma turns directly to #1 shield. Gorn fires plas-F (C) as bolt, 1xph-1, hits and score 15 to the #3, no reinforcement. Imp 3, Gorn move forward, takes 50 to the nose, 2 reinf, so 18 internals (plas-F, 2xph-3, 4 warp, trac, fluff), Rom turns to port, showing the #4, range 4, Gorn bolts A, fires phasers, misses and does 11 pts to the #4, leaving 5 boxes. Rom uses Klingon arcs to fire 4xph-1s, doing 15 internals through the #1, getting 3 more power, 1xph-1, thru the hull, 2 x btty. Imp 4, Gorn continues to chase, Rom moves forward. Both announce simultaneous speed changes to 31. At this point, Gorn turns to port, Rom slips to starboard, and Gorn bolts S,F fires remaining phasers, misses with both bolts, scores 11 pts, sees 5 reinforcement (btty), and does 1 internal, forward hull. Bill considers this, and concedes.

We had a short debrief, seems his plan was to move differently and take 50 pts on the #6, instead of #1. This might have made continued pursuit easier, and could have avoided the following phaser strike. Gorn missed with three of four bolts, so it was meant to be.

So, Spartan's Rom KR savors victory in the Masters!

This was path ....
Round 1A - my Gorn loses to Stimpy's Lyran
Round 1B - re-entry as SEL, wins vs kingzilla's ATC
Round 2 - ATC defeats bakija's Neo-Tholian
Round 3 - Neo-Tholian defeats kingzilla's RKR
Round 4 - RKR defeats Gorn as above.

Thanks to all of my opponents, all great games.

By Norman Dizon (Ichaborn) on Tuesday, November 02, 2021 - 10:21 pm: Edit

Great game! This is what SFB is about!

I wonder how much of the game was due to the three missed rolls for Bolts.

I will have to really analyze the write-up to see when I have time...

By Geoffrey Clark (Spartan) on Tuesday, November 02, 2021 - 11:56 pm: Edit

Thanks!

Regarding the missed bolts ... I was re-doing the math on this recently, and it looks like there is about 20% chance for all four to hit, and about 40% chance for three to hit. There is only about 10-11% chance to hit with one or zero, so Bill definitely got the short end of the stick this time.

How much would it matter? Well, it is tough to know, but we can make some guesses. Let's say that his last two bolts hit, and Rom gets 25 more internals. That makes 38 vs 25 internals. Given the movements, Gorn is headed one way, Rom can chose to go the other way. Gorn will be moving speed 7 by the end of turn 3, while Rom is plotted to continue speed 21. Rom will have plas-S on turn 4, and plas-S&F on turn 5, while Gorn bolted everything on turn 3, so will only have quick loads on turn 5, S-torps on turn 6. With the down shields 1&5, vs Rom's down #4 and weak #3, I would hope that Rom can at least be in a position to get several weasels out of the Gorn, and therefore the Gorn might not be in a position for a high speed pursuit on turn 6. My feeling is that it would be a much longer game, it would become plasma ballet. I'm bias, but I think the Rom has a strong position, but it might have gone either way.

It is part of the risk of bolting ... I prefer to launch, it is 100% reliable, you just have to launch at the right time, in the right position relative to your opponent. I can see why Gorns like to bolt, though.

Regards,
Geof

By Andy Koch (Droid) on Wednesday, November 03, 2021 - 09:02 am: Edit

Very well done Jeff. THanks to all who played and got this done with minimal supervision.
Make me feel like running a mini World League or something.... World League with SUDDEN DEATH!! that is

By Andy Koch (Droid) on Tuesday, February 08, 2022 - 08:07 am: Edit

What do we say about a Masters or a World League?
We need an event says I

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Tuesday, February 08, 2022 - 03:56 pm: Edit

I could play something like that.

By Jack Taylor (Jtaylor) on Wednesday, February 09, 2022 - 10:19 am: Edit

I am back and playing a little. Count me in.

By Geoffrey Clark (Spartan) on Thursday, February 17, 2022 - 08:12 am: Edit

I'm in for either one.

By Seth Shimansky (Kingzila) on Saturday, February 19, 2022 - 06:50 am: Edit

I am in for Masters

By Ronald J. Brimeyer (Captainron) on Saturday, February 19, 2022 - 11:26 am: Edit

I would play Masters

By Andy Koch (Droid) on Friday, May 06, 2022 - 09:35 am: Edit

Hi guys.
What does everyone think of a "Sh*tty Ship Masters" tournament?"
We could use all the playtest ships and some of the weak, seldom used Regular cruisers.
I was thinking for this one we would come up with a stable of ships and randomly assign the starting ship in advance to give the players time to brush up on the rules.
It's just something a little different from the parades of plasma and drones...
We got time to suss this out, it would not start until after Sapphire 11....

Thoughts?

By Jack Taylor (Jtaylor) on Friday, May 06, 2022 - 02:42 pm: Edit

Sounds fun but might struggle for a full 16 players for it. Probably need to think of a plan in case we can't come up with a specific number of players.

Either way, count me in.

By David Zimdars (Zimdarsdavid) on Saturday, May 07, 2022 - 08:42 am: Edit

I’d play.-Dave Z

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Saturday, May 07, 2022 - 10:42 am: Edit

In theory, sure. But I wouldn't really want it running the same time as Sapphire.

We could easily make this thing run with 8.

By Graham Cridland (Grahamcridland) on Saturday, May 07, 2022 - 10:54 pm: Edit

Something like:

Frax
Jindarian
Vudar
NeoTholian
LDR
TKE
Andro
Seltorian

By Jack Taylor (Jtaylor) on Sunday, May 08, 2022 - 11:48 am: Edit

No one but no one wants to see the TKE, except for maybe Jason.

By Seth Shimansky (Kingzila) on Sunday, May 08, 2022 - 01:11 pm: Edit

I am in - can we add the phaser pig


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