By Jeff Anderson (Jga) on Wednesday, April 27, 2022 - 11:32 am: Edit |
A few days ago, I had a hankerin' to take a look at the Gorn Double-Wing Destroyer (R6.91).
(Don't ask me why; I couldn't answer that... )
Anyhow, part of the ship description for the ship says, "Two additional wings were fitted to the slightly extended rear hull off a fleet destroyer..."
This got me thinking about a possible crossing between this ship and the Gorn Heavy Battle Destroyer (R6.58); could THAT ship, which aslo has the extended hull section (in this case, in the middle) that can accommodate the second pair of wings?
I did have further questions about both the optional systems in the HBD and the shock problems with the DDW, but then wondered if "Hard Welding with Fixed Components" (i.e.: eliminating the options in the HBD) might allow for the additional internal bracing (something not on SSDs in SFB, but is the perfect PSBS excuse for it) to eliminate the shock effects.
Also, as part of this exercise in dingbattiness (), I asked, "WHAT IF, as a further exercise in attempting to reduce shock effects, the engineers were to downgrade the center Plasma-G to a Plasma-F?"
"WHAT IF, due to the rear mounted Optional Weapon Mounts on the HBD, the ship were capable of mounting a SIXTH Plasma-F; one in each Plasma Arc (FP, AP, LP, RP, LPR, RPR)?"
Anyhow, I wanted to share this idea with you, even though it is kind of a dumb one. What do y'all think of it?
By Mike West (Mjwest) on Wednesday, April 27, 2022 - 11:44 am: Edit |
If I remember correctly, the entire genesis of the Double-Wing Destroyer was a misprinted counter silhouette.
So, the issue with the other ships is that there are no misprinted counters to base them on.
On the other hand, the Gorns can always use some love. Go for it!
By Stewart Frazier (Frazikar3) on Wednesday, April 27, 2022 - 07:04 pm: Edit |
Would it still be 'modular' (GBDW) or would it be fixed (BDW) ??
By Jeff Anderson (Jga) on Wednesday, April 27, 2022 - 07:26 pm: Edit |
Misprinted counters. Curious.
(Between us, back when TFG was publishing SFU, I got another one of their games that used the two color counters. One race in it had black-on-green counters, like Andromedans, but used carriers exclusively. For my own grins and giggles, I worked up a "Home Galaxy Enforcer" Andromedan carrier using the silouette on those counters, but never did submit it...)
I imagined the ship as non-modular, Stewart. Basically, I pretty arbitrarily stated that making it non-modular was a PSBS way to say it wasn't subject to Shock.
I will admit, though, that past of me wanted to get away from modularity to keep this contraption as a "One-Trick Pony;" namely the omnidirectional short range plasma trick. Keeping it that "One-Trick" is also the reason for suggesting the FP torp be downgraded from G to F.
HOWEVER, seeing as how it's only just now being introduced, making it modular is CERTAINLY open for discussion.
By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, April 28, 2022 - 01:06 pm: Edit |
I don’t remember that. I thought it was just a clever joke.
By Jeff Anderson (Jga) on Friday, April 29, 2022 - 11:54 am: Edit |
Perhaps I ought not mention this, but one idea it gave me was, "WHAT IF the committee in the Gorn Legislature that was responsible for military procurement thought about doing something similar with the CL (R6.3) when proposals were being floated that eventually gave them the CA (R6.2)?"
Can you imagine a ship with FOUR Plasma-G torpedoes? Even with the fixed (and pretty awkward angled) launch and tracking, that ship would have been pretty terrifying, back in the day, to say NOTHING of what the plus and F Refits would have done to it!
(BTW: that is NOT a proposal; I do NOT want to be banned from making any in the future!! )
By Mike West (Mjwest) on Friday, April 29, 2022 - 02:35 pm: Edit |
I was wrong. I must have confused the counter thing with something else. I found and pulled out my ancient original-issue Gorn counters and, while they are all kinds of wonky (side-by-side engines, don't know what was going on with the DN) there isn't any double-wing ships in the silhouettes. I apologize for the misstatement.
On a different subject, there already is a ship with four Pl-G torpedoes: The Sharkhunter CW. While, yes, it is a "simulator only" ship, the concept of using 4xPl-G instead of 1xPl-S and 2xPl-F is completely reasonable. It would just have to be stated that the Pl-G cannot be upgraded into Pl-S.
By Douglas Saldana (Dsal) on Friday, April 29, 2022 - 05:50 pm: Edit |
The counter for the Gorn DN in Federation Space had two sets of wings. I believe this was the 1st appearance of the Gorn DN since Federation Space was published before Expansion #2.
By Mike West (Mjwest) on Saturday, April 30, 2022 - 10:50 am: Edit |
I meant to say, "there isn't any double-wing FRIGATES in the silhouettes." The DN was definitely weird and seems to include two sets of wings, though the second set could have represented something else.
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