Ground Based Tractor Beam

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By Gregory S Flusche (Vandar) on Sunday, July 02, 2023 - 06:53 pm: Edit

1 A asteroid is destroyed it is still a anchor. 2 If you have to power each section individually then the buzz saw would not work at all. As there would be way too many sections to reinforce.

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Sunday, July 02, 2023 - 08:20 pm: Edit

To refer back to the opening post:

Technically speaking, there is a ground-based tractor beam in the game system at present, in the form of the Andromedan ground-based heavy tractor-repulsor beam (R10.31B) in SFB Module C3.

Although, when compared to most other empires, there is a significant difference in terms of how the Andromedans can operate such a system (not least when the base is tied into an Andro power grid), and what can be done against the unit being tractored (since the Andros don't need to, say, drop any PA panels in order to launch a hit-and-run or boarding attempt through a downed shield).

Actually, now that I think about it, another empire which might benefit from a similar setup would be the Bolosco. It's not yet known if ground-based focused tractor beams and/or ground-based integrated warp tractors historically existed. But if they did, each of those (particularly a ground-based IWT) would provide a fortified Bolosco colony world with some interesting options to leverage in its defence.

By John Christiansen (Roscoehatfield) on Wednesday, July 19, 2023 - 02:46 pm: Edit

Michael F Guntly, I've read the web construction rules carefully. Nowhere did I find any rule prohibiting asteroid anchors being in a globular web. In fact, I couldn't find any rule requiring included asteroids to be located at any bending points of a globular web. The requirements are that all web turns be in the same direction, that no more than 2 ships be involved in the construction, and that the circle be closed before the web is reinforced, and that the web be reinforced before 224 impulses after the construction began.

By Michael F Guntly (Ares) on Wednesday, July 19, 2023 - 06:20 pm: Edit

John,
I sit corrected. I blame early dementia. I "mis-remembered" from 15+ years ago.

Correct me if I am wrong again, but the buzzsaw would need an anchor at the end of each arm, right? And a whole asteroid or a pulverized asteroid would suffice?

And correct me if I am wrong again, in a globular web, asteroids would not be anchors because upon completion, the web would be anchored to itself. Asteroids would merely be inserts.

By Gregory S Flusche (Vandar) on Wednesday, July 19, 2023 - 07:14 pm: Edit

read G10.115 Web must be laid in a straight line. A buzz saw is a group of linier webs. Each corner must have an anchor point. When tied together that way. They are considered one web. For reinforcement and degradation. It also must have anchors at each end.

A global web does not need any anchors at all. Other than the ships as they lay the web.

By John Christiansen (Roscoehatfield) on Friday, August 18, 2023 - 03:31 pm: Edit

To hearken back to the late June posts, 6 linear webs can be spun in a closed hexagonal pattern and connected to act as a single closed web. They wouldn't be globular by definition, but they would allow for a 30 hex outer web of a wedding cake to be spun in sections, reinforced before 224 impulses have passed so as not to dissolve, and then closed so there is no gap for intruders to bypass the webs. (G10.1333)

By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Friday, August 18, 2023 - 03:45 pm: Edit

John Christiansen:
Are you asking a question? Under the rules in (G10.0) you can do what you ask as long as the total number of web hexes does not exceed 30 hexes and each segment has its own anchor points.

By John Christiansen (Roscoehatfield) on Friday, August 18, 2023 - 06:26 pm: Edit

To hearken back to the late June posts, 6 linear webs can be spun in a closed hexagonal pattern and connected to act as a single closed web. They wouldn't be globular by definition, but they would allow for a 30 hex outer web of a wedding cake to be spun in sections, reinforced before 224 impulses have passed so as not to dissolve, and then closed so there is no gap for intruders to bypass the webs. (G10.1333)

By John Christiansen (Roscoehatfield) on Saturday, August 19, 2023 - 09:48 am: Edit

Steve, no questions asked. Thanks for asking.

I had a misconception about closed webs that I commented about back in June. I even cited the rules that supported my misconception. Recently, I found the correct rule that corrected my misconception, so I made a correction.

Sorry for the duplicate post. The first post didn’t show up on my phone until hours after I reposted.


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