| By Justin Royter (Metaldog) on Saturday, August 16, 2025 - 02:11 pm: Edit |
congrats to dana again for playing well and winning the tournament, Well done!
| By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Saturday, August 16, 2025 - 02:12 pm: Edit |
Way prove my point.
You need help, man. You need help.
| By Justin Royter (Metaldog) on Saturday, August 16, 2025 - 02:16 pm: Edit |
bro your trolling this forum, What is your life? just waiting for me so you can chime in .. lol 1 min later response.. lol. What is your life?? Really sad.
Why couldnt you just congratulate dana on his win? Jesus bro, you thrive on getting neg'd huh?
Seriously why are even talking to me or starting ••••?! This isnt even about you or me, but you dont get that do you? Go touch some grass as the kids say.
| By Alex Chobot (Alendrel) on Saturday, August 16, 2025 - 02:32 pm: Edit |
I was never involved with this event and the above was the first post I ever made in this topic.
| By Justin Royter (Metaldog) on Saturday, August 16, 2025 - 02:38 pm: Edit |
ya..what are you even doing adding fuel to the fire.. and how many year ago was this terrible assault on you alex 10? 15?? Are you ok?? why are you guys de-railing this forum with your drama.
Pretty sure we are all just talking about the final battle and giving out congrats.. wtf?!
| By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Saturday, August 16, 2025 - 02:44 pm: Edit |
>>By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Saturday, August 16, 2025 - 02:12 pm>>
>>By Justin Royter (Metaldog) on Saturday, August 16, 2025 - 02:16 pm
What is your life? just waiting for me so you can chime in .. lol 1 min later response..>>
| By Alex Chobot (Alendrel) on Saturday, August 16, 2025 - 04:10 pm: Edit |
I just stated a relevant fact.
| By Alex Chobot (Alendrel) on Saturday, August 16, 2025 - 04:34 pm: Edit |
Peter, they never stick the flounce, do they?
| By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Saturday, August 16, 2025 - 04:35 pm: Edit |
Chill, guys.
| By Gregory S Flusche (Vandar) on Saturday, August 16, 2025 - 05:38 pm: Edit |
When is the next one? My account is back up and active and getting time to play.
| By Geoffrey Clark (Spartan) on Tuesday, August 19, 2025 - 05:32 pm: Edit |
Hello Guys,
Thanks for playing in this tournament, and adjusting to the changes and bumps along the way that we all experienced. We did finish it, and I want to publish statistics and official scoreboard.
Also, I want to use that in a promotion campaign, since I see activity under SFB Facebook, and I think Paul Franz would want to promote this in other ways.
If players are looking for what is next, then please check out and comment on the "Compact" version, and the "Expansive" version, different topics on this "Non-Sapphire Tournaments" section.
Regards,
Geof
| By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Tuesday, August 19, 2025 - 05:44 pm: Edit |
I think if you want to promote this, getting this BBS, uh, cleaned up, is probably a good plan...
| By Justin Royter (Metaldog) on Tuesday, August 19, 2025 - 11:17 pm: Edit |
Geof can you send an email blast when you start it up again, hopefully this fall?
I will have time to play, thank you again for running this, and making it happen.
| By Gregory S Flusche (Vandar) on Wednesday, August 20, 2025 - 05:26 pm: Edit |
I would also like to play as well. Perhaps with a partner. To help in case of scheduling issues..
| By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Friday, August 22, 2025 - 12:56 pm: Edit |
Regardless of which format the next iteration of the tournament is to be played, might it be an idea to consider adding the "lost empire" Paravians and Carnivons from Module C6 to the list of playable Alpha factions this time around?
Given how prominently "fast" drones featured in (well, seemingly took over) the first iteration of this tournament, it would be interesting to see how the Carnivons - who are designed to fight both the Kzintis and the Lyrans - would fare in such an environment.
Not least since heel nippers can be fired against four drone-sized targets in a single turn, and score more damage against such targets the faster the latter are going!
And, of course, seeing how a quantum wave torpedo-heavy task force pans out - or not - in the face of "fast" drones (and, for that matter, "fast" death bolts) or sabot plasma would itself be of interest.
| By Gregory S Flusche (Vandar) on Friday, August 22, 2025 - 04:41 pm: Edit |
I do want to play the Paravians.
| By Gregory S Flusche (Vandar) on Monday, September 08, 2025 - 06:20 pm: Edit |
is there any progress of starting something up?
| By Geoffrey Clark (Spartan) on Thursday, September 11, 2025 - 02:52 am: Edit |
Hello Guys,
Thanks for your patience. I'm just back from vacation, had some stuff to do in LA (see link below), and also had to support my parents a bit, but I'm back home in Tokyo now, and thinking about getting the next tournament moving. I'm thinking to design a brief survey for players to provide some structured feedback on the following points:
1. Tournament format : Single/Double Elimination, or Round Robin to qualify for the final.
2. Empires available : People have expressed a desire to play Andromedans, Paravians, FRAX, etc. Others are adamant about strict Alpha-quadrant and no crazies ...
3. Fleet size & composition : 500 BPV +/-, DNs, PFs, fighters, conjectural units, etc.
4. Fleet construction : Build your own (seems preferred), or fixed forces?
5. Map size & terrain : some ideas have been expressed under the "Compact" & "Expansive"
Anyway, I'll probably use survey monkey to get some people's opinions quantified, and use that data to quash any dissenters with democracy.
Stay tuned!
https://fb.watch/C29jpkBB96/
| By Geoffrey Clark (Spartan) on Thursday, September 11, 2025 - 03:58 am: Edit |
OK, I've built a basic survey, it is nine questions, and I can collect 25 responses (please fill it out only once). I will post here for one week, and if I do not get 25 responses, I will post on the SFB Facebook page.
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/CT5K85B
| By Eddie E Crutchfield (Librarian101) on Thursday, September 11, 2025 - 12:59 pm: Edit |
Done today
| By Eddie E Crutchfield (Librarian101) on Thursday, September 11, 2025 - 01:18 pm: Edit |
Geof one other question to consider, duel to the death or turn limit, decided by standard conditions.
| By Geoffrey Clark (Spartan) on Thursday, September 11, 2025 - 03:40 pm: Edit |
Hi Ed,
Thanks for the quick survey. I think we'll go with a turn limit, and there will be VP awarded for destroying / crippling / damaging units per normal scenario rules. In addition, I'm considering some additional ways to score points for "area control", but I'm not so much looking for feedback from players on that aspect.
| By Gregory S Flusche (Vandar) on Thursday, September 11, 2025 - 07:07 pm: Edit |
I agree with Spartan.
Turn limit (perhaps a bit more for plasma races.) With VP for destroying/crippling/ damaging units.
I think the 500 BPV build Your own works well, With COs. DNs need 3 other ships. So go for it. Carriers need escorts If You can build a carrier group for 500 go for it. I think Mega fighters and PFs should be limited. Depending on Year. I did not like You have to buy a Size class 4 are limited size class 3. I know people did not just want a cruiser squadron battle.
Terrain can be a tough one. I am going with an approach battle or pinning battle in open space. Terrain can so Easly favor or hurt different forces.
We could have both players chose a terrain they would like from a list. Then roll die 1-2 player A gets their choice. 3-4 empty space or 5-6 player B choice. This could simulate the force commanders maneuvering for a preferred location.
| By Geoffrey Clark (Spartan) on Tuesday, September 23, 2025 - 10:04 pm: Edit |
Hello Ms. Jean Sexton,
I've attempted to get some additional responses to my survey on Facebook, but unfortunately my message is still un-reviewed by the admins of both groups. I do believe that you are the admin of at least one group ... I'll send you a message on Facebook, perhaps you can approve my message so I can get additional survey responses? Thanks!
| By Jean Sexton Beddow (Jsexton) on Wednesday, September 24, 2025 - 11:31 am: Edit |
All done!!!
| By Geoffrey Clark (Spartan) on Wednesday, October 01, 2025 - 02:30 am: Edit |
Hello aspiring Fleet Admirals,
After announcing the survey on this BBS, by email, and on Facebook in two groups, eleven people have responded. Maybe that's what our demand level is, so be it. Let me give you some high-level results:
1. What type of Tournament Format do you prefer?
Single Elimination was 45% (5 people)
Round Robin with points for final, 36% (4 people)
My opinion is that if we go with Single Elimination, we should go with the "Commander + XO" model, so we are not stuck when one person has RL take priority. Round Robin has a big advantage here, much more flexible. Thus, I will tip the scale to lean towards Round Robin.
2. Do you prefer expanding the Empires available?
Andromedans wins with 6 people, followed by none of the above with 5 people. So, Andros are the only additional empire that makes the cut.
3. Shall we expand the fleet size?
Overwhelmingly No, 10 people, so 500 BPV it will remain. I might give a little more room for CO, up to 575 BPV, which is 15%.
4. Do you prefer to use EW and scouts?
Overwhelmingly Yes, 10 people, so scouts are in.
5. Shall we allow conjectural, prototype or other non-standard units?
Pretty good margin No, 7 people, so we will not permit them.
6. Hydrans may use fighters (up to 24?), carriers & escorts, what about other races?
Disagree was 6 people, Agree was 5 people, so it is mixed. I'm planning to let Hydrans have almost unlimited fighters, Feds might get more fighters, like 12, other races will have a limit of 8. A light carrier with an escort will provide a pretty strong drone defense, if you are concerned.
7. Lyrans may use PFs (up to 12?) & PT tenders, what about other races?
Agree was 7, Disagree was 4, so players seem a bit more open to PFs. I'll permit Lyrans to take up to 6 PFs in a formal flotilla, other races will be permitted to take up to 4 casual PFs.
8. A standard map is 30x42 (1060 hexes). The CL15 template used previously specifies 4 maps (5040 hexes). Shall we shrink the map size?
8 Agree, 3 Disagree, so we will shrink the map. Average preferred size listed in the comments was 3122 hexes, so we're talking roughly 48 x 66 hexes.
9. The original CL15 format was open space. Are you in favor of adding terrain, such as a small moon, Class M planet, or Gas Giant?
Overwhelmingly Disagree with 9 people, vs 2 people. We might develop an Admiral's roll to maneuver, like 2D6, and the winner can pick open space, or a planetary body (Class D or Class M), if I get positive feedback. This does help to break-up large drone waves, but only if you are lucky enough to pick the battle location.
Anyway, I'll wait a few days for comments before I draft the rules changes.
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