| By Frank Lemay (Princeton) on Thursday, November 13, 2025 - 06:43 pm: Edit |
Any word on the Hydran vs Lyran battle ?
Has it been resolved ?
Any progress on the Fed vs Andro battle and Roms vs Gorns ?
Cheers
Frank
| By Justin Royter (Metaldog) on Thursday, November 13, 2025 - 07:54 pm: Edit |
I have submitted my COs waiting for approval, hoping to play this weekend, I am avail.
| By Dana Madsen (Madman) on Thursday, November 13, 2025 - 11:20 pm: Edit |
Hydran vs Lyran is over. Lyrans win a tactical victory, about 180% VP advantage, however I do have a few questions for Geof on calculating VP.
Forces Hydran IRC, 2 x IRQ + 6 ST-II w/ wp boosters on everything vs Lyran BC, TGC/BP, CA who finished paying for their refits with Commander Options.
We stopped at end of T6 and talked it out. I couldn't quite kill a second ship and the crippled IRQ would have made it off map either end of T7 or early T8. Maybe the uncrippled IRQ1 could have helped dragged the crippled IRQ2 off map before another round of long range disr fire hit it at start of T7. Best case though it probably would have had 10 internals left. I tried to kill a second ship because I'm not sure if the level of victory matters.
Lyrans lost dead CA, internals scored on both TGB and BC (TGB was sort of self inflicted) and 2 shuttles (exploring the detonation radius of t-bombs). I counted that as 176 points.
Hydrans lost IRC, 5 x ST-II, 4 x SH-A (w/ wp booster), a crippled ST-II, crippled/disengaged IRQ, and internals/disengaged on the other IRQ. I counted that as 320 points.
One note, I played the TGB and didn't realize until T3 that the SSD was incorrect. It was missing 3 power and 4 ph-2's (LS / RS from the Pod). I didn't try and play the TGC and attach the BP pallet. That might have been a correct SSD.
T1 - nothing important happened. We got closer, ended at 18, Lyrans fired 15 disr hitting 9/17 for 18pts on the #1. Fighters launched early and moved fast all turn with massive ECM getting 5 hexes or so in front of their ships.
T2 - I wasn't planning on raising ESG's until range 8 for HB protection, there was a long way he could have turned and ran if I brought them up. Maybe though with disr fire it would have been ok? Anyways, he shot with Ftr's fusions and gats at range 10 and then over the next few imp 12 HB at 15 before turning and running. He did 23 damage from the 6 ftrs on the CA's #3 with 1 pt reinforcement. Then hit with 9/12 HB on a down shield for a volley of 15 then 20 then 10 internals. Killed 10 power, 2 ESG, 1 disr, 5phasers and all batts.
A few impulses later Lyrans shot back at IRQ2, #4 shield with 10 disr and 3 ph-1. Hitting 10/10 on disr and doing 33 pts with 7 internals, 2 warp and ph-g. Then over the next few imp the BC fired all it's ph-1's doing another 10 internals hitting 3 more power and a HB. He landed the fighters by mid-turnish to start rearming.
T3 - I expected the Hydrans to run and rearm full HB and reload fighters. I moved 31/16/10 because I knew I'd get range 8 on a back shield with the BC & TGB. CA couldn't maintain spd and fell a few hexes back. CA shot 3 std at range 15 @+2 and missed with all. BC/TGB shot 8 UIM OL disr on the #5 shield of the IRQ2, 4 from each ship, at no shift. Hit 7/8 doing 42 damage, no UIM burnout and did 15 more internals to the IRQ2, 3 power and 3 phaser, including other ph-G. He shot 6 range 8 ph-1's and 2's at my BC for 9 on my #1.
Next imp he launched fighters before they were rearmed. A couple imp later I brought up 2 ESG's from the TG. Then I brought up a 3rd as he started launching admin shuttles. He was moving fast, 27 as I was slowing down and he started turning around my left side. I had not fired any phasers from the BC or TG yet as I still had enough fire to hurt his ships with those. Imp 22 he rammed his 3 ships, 6 fighters and 5 shuttles into 30 pts of range 3 ESG. Then over the next few imp I shot BC ph-3 into the fighters killing 5 of 6 before they could shoot and crippling the 6. TGB held all it's ph-2's waiting to see if he came in closer. He proceeded to fly around my slow BC/TGB and got to range 1 on the damaged CA, which ended the CA and it blew up on his nose doing some more internals to the IRQ2 as it had a previously damaged #1 shield. He ended the turn shooting a few more phasers and shuttles into my BC #4 at range 4 doing 14 pts. To move fast all turn he only armed 1 HB on the IRC and good IRQ, so 2 out of 12 total. I looked like I was in a tactically bad position at EOT3, he moved 27 all turn compared to my 31/16/10 but he didn't have enough weapons available to bust through the BC's damaged #4 shield on imp 1 next turn and to do significant HB damage.
T4 - I stopped with the 2 ships and tac'd twice being able to shoot on imp 3. Held my fire though as he was out to range 6 and moving away. Damaged IRQ had het'd away on imp 2 a different direction to get a fresh shield and then started Erratics. TGB dropped it's last ESG with partial power left, and then BC raised 4 ESGs at range 3. I sped up to speed 9 imp 10 with my ships chasing him slowly. On imp 14 I shot 10 UIM OL's from BC(4) and TGC(6) as he could get to range 9 next imp. I hit 9/10, doing great on range 8 UIM shots. BC UIM burnt out. Did 29 internals onto the other IRQ.
He HET'd both ships back in after my shot. but again I'd held my ph-1's for close defense if this happened and the mass of ph-2 on the TG. oh, I also had a bunch of shuttles chasing after me but staying outside the ESG field. On imp 26 I shot 9 ph-1 at the IRC at range 5 doing 6 internals (more on target selection later). On imp 27 he shot 5 ph-1 at range 4 at me plus 2 HB which hit ESGs. He did 20 pts to my #1 shield hurting it further. On imp 32 TGB fired 5 RS ph-2 at down shield on the IRC doing another 7 internals. BC ended turn with 1 pt left on #1 shield.
EOT we had a discussion about his leaving. IRC had a down shield facing me but was outside my FA. IRQ in the fight had a good shield facing me but more internals. Other IRQ was 15 hexes away under erratics. BC could not fire disr due to UIM burnout until later in the turn. TGB could tac again and fire 6ish UIM Ols. However before I could tac and shoot he could start EM with 6 ECM and I would have a +2 shift. He'd still move spd 22 with the IRC and while I'd do internals may or may not have been able to cripple him, certainly couldn't kill him. At this point he could possibly leave with 2 ships with internals and the IRC either crippled or maybe only internals if I didn't roll well. As TGB was tacing it couldn't speed up fast enough to chase and do anything. If he'd got away only giving me points for disengaging plus 5 fighters and some dead shuttles I would have barely won a marginal victory due to losing the CA. I was upset with myself for splitting fire on the IRQ and later IRC previous turn. I was thinking tourney fights are to the death and wasn't thinking about someone running after 4 turns, but hey, it's right there in the rules. If I'd kept up fire all of T3 on the IRQ it would have had more power damage and been slower if he tried to run. I split my fire because it figured killing different shields on different ships was good as he wouldn't be able to fly in a group without having more down shields to show me.
After some back and forth over emails I said I wanted to play out his T5 disengagement. Because the IRQ with the fresh shield was more badly hurt, even though it had a full shield, any damage to it was closer to bringing it to crippled status, also, it couldn't move as fast under Erratics with 6 ECM up, only speed 19 max. The BC could make a 8/18 split.
T5 - he plotted 0 on the IRC, tac'd and shot a HB at the ESG looking for damage. Before he tac'd I'd dropped a shield on the TG to beam out T-bomb to get in his shuttles way. I had miscounted his power and thought he could only have 2, maybe 3 HB's armed, but turns out he had 4 armed. One dropped the only active ESG, then the next did some internals to the down TGB shield, nothing material at this point though. But it scored him victory points for a t-bomb I ended up running over myself chasing him. Bad mistake dropping shields around HB's even if I did have ESG protection.
I took a risk and Het'd the BC to get a pursuit angle on his ships, made the HET without breaking down, which would have been bad and might have led to a draw. Throughout the turn as he ran he did some damage to the #1 shield and internals on the BC so got 10% there. But the BC did enough damage to cripple the original damaged IRQ which had turned in to shoot it, then ended the turn at range 4 from the now badly hurt IRC with ESG's coming up imp 2 next turn. Oh TGB ended up shooting at the IRC with 6 OL's at range 2 and hit with 3 / 6 @ +2.
So T6 I would have casually killed the damaged IRC with the BC. The TGB could have shot 7 range 15 disr into a down shield on the badly damaged IRQ, it only had 34 internals remaining at start of turn and a 1 point shield plus 5 of my shuttles could have shot it as well at range 8. But that wouldn't have been enough even with another 7 disr the start of the next turn before he could leave. Depending on rolls he may have only got off with 5 to 15 internals left, but he still could have got it away, again maybe the other IRQ would have had to drag it off map. BC was likely too far away to get back in after killing the IRC.
Dana
| By Justin Royter (Metaldog) on Saturday, November 15, 2025 - 02:43 pm: Edit |
Fed Vs Andros this weekend, exact time TBA.
| By Eddie E Crutchfield (Librarian101) on Saturday, November 15, 2025 - 02:46 pm: Edit |
What is the fleet composition for the Feds and Andros.
| By Justin Royter (Metaldog) on Saturday, November 15, 2025 - 09:48 pm: Edit |
not revealed as of yet , waiting on geof for my COs.
| By Frank Lemay (Princeton) on Sunday, November 16, 2025 - 09:47 pm: Edit |
Ed and I finsihed up T6 tonight.
Gorns,
All capable ships move 13/14, no ew
Lone HDD that is a wreck has 2 power only so applied to full shields, no AFC, no ew.
HDD Szurra crew were enjoying their last insect meal !
Feds,
Seriously damaged beast of a GSC parks with ew 4/0, she has AFC up and full shields.
GSC crew were also enjoying thier last meal albeit it was not insects.
BCF moves 12/17/24, no ew
CS moves same plot but on different impulses, ew is 0/1.
Feds launch drogues on 6.1
On 6.6, drogues spit out 6 drones, 2 on HDD Szurra, rest on active Gorn ships, only 1 was labbed successfully, a type IF.
The 2 F torps were real and hit the GSC on imp 4 hitting her on the #3 for 33 damage [proxcy roll of +1 all hit for full] after 1 torp was phasered down some.
She survived the blast.
GSC gets tractored and Gorns launch 3 SS at her, GSC ADD fire missed.
All 3 SS hit for full on the #2 despite a shift of 2
GSC survives the 3 SS hit, go figure eh !?!?!?
We both had a good laugh over that one !
Finally on imp 7, GSC blew up taking a shot of 2 ph 1s at R2 at +1 shift.
While this was going on, the Feds were zeroing in on the lonely HDD Golitho.
The drogues had 2 drones launched at her with both being type IF, she survived that on the #5 shield.
Not ot be outdone, the CS then fired 3 ph 1s at R5 at +0 and she survived that.
The CS then fired 1 more ph 1 at R5 and HDD Szurra survived that albeit she is down to 1 EXCESS box left !
Finally, the BCF after getting on the downed #2 of Szurra fired a ph1 at R2 and HDD Szurra finally blew up on 6.26.
She almost survived it as the 1st 2 internals were DAMCON track.
More laughter from ED and myself !
Rest of the turn sees Gorns open the range to the 4 incoming drones.
2 were phasered down, 1 took 3 damage.
Fleets are R11/R12 with Gorn #2 on Fed #1.
Play to continue Tuesday night, maybe early afternoon.
Cheers
Frank
| By Eddie E Crutchfield (Librarian101) on Monday, November 17, 2025 - 01:26 am: Edit |
I figured Frank had Suicide shuttles, I had hoped to have at least one opportunity at them, when they hit I had 2 special sensors powered to break lock ons 1 drone to fire, 1 Add to fire and one tractor to use, but I did not have the opportunity since he launchedthem at speed 7 to hit the net impulse before anything came up to defend.
| By Frank Lemay (Princeton) on Monday, November 17, 2025 - 07:37 pm: Edit |
Gorn vs Fed battle is over.
Ed conceded at the end of T6.
He figured his mistake was chasing down the 3 remaining Gorn ships during T6 instead of peeling away and reloading his photons to max ovld and phaser caps topped up.
Then engage again in 2 turns or so.
Now at close range, Feds will get their R8 shot but if ovld photons are used, the 2 Fed BCF and CS will be dead slow I suspect !
Gorns have 1 S torp, 2 fast loads and 6 carronades plus 18 ph 1s centerlined & a few SS's to Feds 8 ovld photons, plasma F, carronade F and 16 ph 1s centerlined plus some drones.
I still think it is an even affair but Ed did not so he conceded.
Great game Ed.
Thanks !
Gorns,
1 HDD is KIA
Shield damage only to the CDD adn 2 HDD
Feds,
GSC is KIA.
Shield damage only to BCF and CS.
Cheers
Frank
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