Consider adding the fish designation "remora" to the Freedom Fighter PF.

Make sure that the WYN PF includes the standard versions (all phaser, all drone, etc.)

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Friday, May 09, 2025 - 08:46 am: Edit

This might count more as "would be nice to see done", rather than "needs to be done", but:

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In both Module C6 and in Module R4J, there are alternate timelines presented in which the WYNs gain access to different technologies, relative to what is seen in the historical timeline.

On the one hand, one of the two "Carnivon" timelines in C6 sees an on-map Carnivon Empire persist as a fourth open-space realm at the crossroads of the WYN Cluster; this "Mapsheet C1" setup is previewed for Federation and Empire in Captain's Log #51.

(By contrast, the "Mapsheet C2" timeline in C6 pre-empts the very existence of the WYN faction as we know it, with the "Cluster Carnivons" emerging as a power in their stead. So there'd be no need for this book in that alternate timeline...)

On the other hand, the "Reflection Universe" setup offered in R4J sees the role of Octant-wide "pirates" taken up by the Paravians rather than by the Orions; they use ships which are functionally identical to historical Orion Pirate hulls - albeit with quantum wave torpedoes treated as "home" technologies, regardless of operating area.

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The first of these options might perhaps provide for a number of "WYN-Carnivon" hulls, as well as access to disruptor cannon technology for the WYN Navy. However, heel nippers and death bolts would continue to be off-limits to non-Carnivon factions. Some order of battle changes might be triggered in a "Mapsheet C1" setup, also; for example, might the Carnivons provide a fourth monitor to the WYNs in Y165, to go alongside those historically provided by the Klingons, Kzintis, and Lyrans in that same year?

The second of these options might provide samples of quantum wave torpedo technology to the WYN Navy... assuming that some sort of accord can be reached between the Usurper and the local Paravian pirate flock, that is.

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Indeed, might combat variants of the "fish ships" (to include the aforementioned WYN PFs) exist in either or both of these timelines, which made use of DC and/or QWT technology in turn?

For example: QWTs can be installed in Orion "wing" option mounts. So, perhaps it might be possible to use them in place of drones on certain "fish ship" combat variants?

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In short, could there be room in a would-be WYN Master Starship Book to leverage the relevant data in C6 and/or in R4J, so as to support potential changes to the WYNs as a faction in these "lost empire" and/or "Shadow of the Eagle" timelines?

Perhaps in a separate section at the back of the book, akin to the home galaxy section provided for the pre-Revolt Tholians in the Tholian Master Starship Book?

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Friday, May 09, 2025 - 09:59 am: Edit

I don't think that the MSSB is the place to include new ships never published anywhere else.

By Mike Grafton (Mike_Grafton) on Friday, May 09, 2025 - 10:17 am: Edit

IS the list of variant Anarchist style ships for the WYN complete?

By Ken Kazinski (Kjkazinski) on Friday, May 09, 2025 - 11:52 am: Edit

Mike are you looking only those that have SSDs or just the articles?

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Saturday, May 10, 2025 - 07:01 am: Edit

I don't think we do anarchist ships in MSSBs, do we?

By Jessica Orsini (Jessica_Orsini) on Saturday, May 10, 2025 - 10:55 am: Edit

Not that I've seen, Steve.

By Jeff Anderson (Jga) on Saturday, May 10, 2025 - 01:25 pm: Edit

There are a small number of "Conjectural" ships in the MSSBs, plus each one has a section on ships from Captain's Log.

Mike, were you thinking about the various conjectural WYN adaptations of CWs from neighboring powers? The ones done as "Oddball Sisters" to the WYN PBB?

By Mike Grafton (Mike_Grafton) on Monday, May 12, 2025 - 11:17 am: Edit

Sorta.

I was just wondering about if there is any list of all the Brothers of the Anarchist" ships that actually existed. So the Drone Ranger, Klingon Sparrowhawks, etc.

Personally, I've got a weird one stuck in my head that I need to draw out and submit some day. Basically Lyran CL has to drop engines, and takes refuge at an isolated Klingon BATS during the Andro period. Rebuilt with what the Klingons have laying around... So D5 nacelles, etc.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Monday, May 12, 2025 - 08:40 pm: Edit

There were very very few. Anarchist is just a could have been exercise. I am not sure there are any more, but at most one more.