THE GENERAL UPDATE SFB PROJECT

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By Ryan Opel (Ryan) on Sunday, July 20, 2025 - 02:13 am: Edit

That would be awesome if that could happen.

By Jean Sexton Beddow (Jsexton) on Sunday, July 20, 2025 - 10:41 am: Edit

I'll see.

By Alex Chobot (Alendrel) on Monday, July 21, 2025 - 01:05 am: Edit

Pretty please?

By Dan Bivona (Admiraldan) on Tuesday, July 22, 2025 - 10:26 am: Edit

SVC or Jean,

I sent an email to you yesterday (before Jean got my password reset - Thank you!) about assisting with this project as well. I understand that you are starting with people who have already proven their abilities, so what is needed by someone like me in the meantime?

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, July 22, 2025 - 11:13 am: Edit

Post anything you know needs fixing in the topic for that product. That's how I come to know who is helpful.

By Dan Bivona (Admiraldan) on Wednesday, July 23, 2025 - 07:52 am: Edit

Got it. I have a training class all day today, so I will start digging out my stuff tomorrow.

By Christopher Feola (Cfeola) on Wednesday, July 23, 2025 - 08:17 pm: Edit

As far as I can tell, there is not currently a digital version of Module F2 available. I have no idea if F2 is in need of updating, but it struck me as curious that there is no pdf to be found.

By Eddie E Crutchfield (Librarian101) on Friday, August 01, 2025 - 10:13 pm: Edit

Not sure if this is possible, but in the Master Ship books would it be possible to add a Master Ship File Listing for that race, so many times I go to the book then have to go to the Master file to find other things.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Friday, August 01, 2025 - 10:30 pm: Edit

I don't understand what you want this list to include.

By Eddie E Crutchfield (Librarian101) on Saturday, August 02, 2025 - 12:24 am: Edit

Just the standard list from say G3 for the Feds in the Master Ship Book

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Saturday, August 02, 2025 - 01:27 am: Edit

Are you talking about the master ship chart? I don't think we need to reprint it in MSSB; it's already available in G3. I will, however, ask Marketing Jean what she thinks.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Saturday, August 02, 2025 - 01:32 am: Edit

Jean says she has a PDF of S2 but cannot upload it right now due to an administrative problem with W23. That problem is being resolved but isn't resolved yet.

By Eddie E Crutchfield (Librarian101) on Saturday, August 02, 2025 - 11:30 am: Edit

Thanks Steve, just the section for the race of the book, not the complete list. I used a third party editor to import it into my copy.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Saturday, August 02, 2025 - 01:11 pm: Edit

I knew you just wanted the Fed SIT in the Fed MSSB. I don’t think that is a good idea or even necessary.

By Dal Downing (Rambler) on Saturday, August 02, 2025 - 11:55 pm: Edit

I would rather have G3 updated to G4.

By Garth L. Getgen (Sgt_G) on Sunday, August 03, 2025 - 01:55 pm: Edit

I second Dal's suggestion.


Garth L. Getgen

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Sunday, August 03, 2025 - 02:19 pm: Edit

In time, but all of the never-updated modules TR, Silver, R5-7-8-9-11, D3, X1, J2, Y1, K, etc., must get done FIRST as otherwise the first one of those done after G4 would make G4 obsolete.

We can do anything you want, but not all on the same day. Or in the same month. Or during this year.

By Sean Schoonmaker (Schoon) on Monday, August 04, 2025 - 12:58 pm: Edit

You mean we can't have everything...

Have it now...

And cost nothing ;)

(Sorry, I manage programs and see this sort of thing all the time...)

By Eddie E Crutchfield (Librarian101) on Monday, August 11, 2025 - 04:55 pm: Edit

Is Advanced Missions due an update, It till seems to have the old style counters, and SSDs. Ae there any changes to the rules that need to be done?

By Shawn Hantke (Shantke) on Tuesday, August 12, 2025 - 09:17 am: Edit

https://www.starfleetgames.com/prod_update.shtml
"5502 ADVANCED MISSIONS: First printed 1991. Rulebook (massively) revised 1999. SSD book revised (9 ships changed) 1994. Counters same as original. If it has a silver "now sold by ADB" sticker, it is the 1999 version. Cover was replaced with new Geibel art in 2003 and the price was increased. In 2012, the rulebook was (massively) revised to the Master Rulebook standards. In 2014, the SSD book was revised again, notes added, and updated to current Block 4N standards. The Rulebook is available on W23, DTRPG, and WV. The SSD book is available as a B&W print “spare part,” or as an ebook in either B&W or in color on W23, DTRPG, and WV."

By Robert Russell Lender (Rusman) on Tuesday, August 12, 2025 - 10:30 am: Edit

What are "Block 4N standards"?

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, August 12, 2025 - 11:03 am: Edit

The bells and whistles of 2014. If you had asked in 2014 I could have recited the update list but no on really remembers today. I think it might have been the Crawford boxes.

By Eddie E Crutchfield (Librarian101) on Tuesday, August 12, 2025 - 11:35 am: Edit

Thanks Shawn, guess counters will have to wait down the road. Big time expense.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, August 12, 2025 - 12:03 pm: Edit

We need to update products that have never been updated before we start re-updating products that were updated earlier.

We update counters when we run out of them, as they are too expensive to throw away. In theory if it took zero time and I had infinite time, I could update the AM counters and send them to the horrendously expensive short-run place and get some updated counters to sell as very expensive upgrade parts but we could not include them in regular products until we run out of the existing stock.

In theory, one of you could win the lottery and offer to buy all of the existing counters and pay for a new print run. Let me know if that happens.

By Nick Samaras (Koogie) on Tuesday, August 12, 2025 - 02:12 pm: Edit

The recent new SSD standards include such things as:

The Crawford boxes.

Refits in the ship data table have years assigned to them.

Plasma Carronade tables for Gorns and Feds with plasma-F.

Plasma-K table for ships with plasma-D.

Plasma Sabot refits added to plasma units.

The shuttle table has extra boxes for advanced shuttles.

The Orion have more notes to cover their unusual cases.

Some fighters use newer models.


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