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By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 03:04 pm: Edit

Andy, Yes the Tholian Web has advantages.

It also has some disadvantages, IMO.

One of those disadvantages is it surrenders the initiative to the enemy by restricting the Tholian ships to a defensive position behind the webs.

That gives the attacker the opportunity to pick and choose when and where to attack.

Second, I have a small "quibble" with characterizing it as the "single most effective offensive weapon in the game" given that it does not inflict any damage.

We have no way of knowing what SVC will do with the selts in a F&E context, so all of this is wild speculation at best...

The thing about having the Selts as a sworn enemy is that there will not be just one Selt... there will be hundreds, thousands, millions .... of Selts to deal with. and phasers take time to cycle before one can get the next shot in.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 03:27 pm: Edit

Quoted from a Klingon intelligence report:

"Those bugs can do WHAT? WHAT? Are you kidding? No? Holy Kavar, save us. Send the ships, every ship we have, to wipe them out at once!"

By Tony Barnes (Tonyb) on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 05:02 pm: Edit

Jeff,

I believe you may be missing some of the power of the (Neo) Tholian Web Casters.

A fleet armed with web casters can attack or defend fixed locations with greatly reduced casualties.

By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 06:09 pm: Edit

Tony, We had not (I think) specified what Web War would be, much less what the Selts can bring to the table (so to speak...)

we have Tholians, Tholian-NeoTholian Hybrids, and Neo-Tholians... Web caster tech would make the Tholians much more dangerous, and I readily conceed that such a modification is very powerful compared to the Tholians that first appeared in the alpha sector in (IIRC yr 81).

Home galaxy Selts might have other hardware/weapons not available to the pitiful few that the Klingons took pity on during the General War.

SVC- what year was that Klingon Intel report from?

Thinking of changing some history?!?

By Michael C. Grafton (Mike_Grafton) on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 06:17 pm: Edit

Andy wrote "how are the Selts more dangerous than the Tholians?" In their ability to MASS produce ships and population.

I mean they arrived here with just a single hive ship and a few escorts and look at what they built!

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 06:35 pm: Edit

Jeff: No, it fits into established history.

By Loren Knight (Loren) on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 07:14 pm: Edit

Jeff: It goes wiht what I can't tell you. SVC is just better at twisting the screw.

SVC: LOL! (This IS the fun part huh?)

By Kenneth Jones (Kludge) on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 07:27 pm: Edit

I have some idea of what Loren's talking about. But thats from my own work on the Shield Galaxy project.

So exactly what it is will remain off the books for now. Especially until SPP gets around to clearing Layered Shields for playtesting.

By Loren Knight (Loren) on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 07:35 pm: Edit

No Kludge, not it... actually I'm not sure what you're refering to.

One person knows other than SVC (and anyone SVC told like SPP and Burnside I suppose) and I and his name will remain secret for his own protection! :)

By Daniel G. Knipfer (Dgknipfer) on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 08:03 pm: Edit

What would scare the Klingons? The ability to spread like a swarm of locust combined with the ability to produce more than three times as many recourses from a given planet.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 08:03 pm: Edit

I haven't even told Burnside.

By Loren Knight (Loren) on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 08:41 pm: Edit

:O

Well, I'm ready to get that ball rolling big time. Just that last cog to deal with regarding the Bolosco.

By Les LeBlanc (Lessss) on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 10:17 pm: Edit

I suggest omone from adb or SFB fandom contact he geeks err I mean the industrious folks that do their own trek episodes and suggest the do some sfb history ones. Might be able to sell some of those tapes.

By Joseph R Carlson (Jrc) on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 01:11 am: Edit

SVC,

Have you considered doing a module about exploring the other satellite galaxies around the Milky way. The galactic powers found their way through the energy barrier and developed long range logistic abilities as part of Op U. It would be interesting what they find, new races, new battles, and what ever else you can think up or create.

By Will McCammon (Djdood) on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 06:04 pm: Edit

Les -

Seems kind of harsh to even jokingly call the fanfilm-makers geeks _ The charge could be made that "all we do is sit at a table, talk about starships, and push little cardboard things around"...

By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 09:29 pm: Edit

heh...Well that said I guess the only difference btwn F&E and SFB is that in F&E we push larger stacks of cardboard things around.

By Loren Knight (Loren) on Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 02:06 am: Edit

Those aren't cardboard thingies, dang it! Those are matal and silicon, tritanium and anti-mater. Those are freakin' human lives there, Buddy!

Sheesh...

By Tos Crawford (Tos) on Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 09:12 am: Edit

And some not-so-human lives.

By John Pepper (Akula) on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 01:25 am: Edit

A middle years module for SFB would be cool to add some variation to the period before general war.

A M2 module could be done for SFB, with more advanced ground combat rules and close combat support fighters.

By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 01:21 pm: Edit

A middle years module would also be a logical place to document some of the more interesting "single hex" races (such as the neutral worlds) in the various neutral zones on the F&E map.

Since the planets were occupied prior to the General war by various races, a presentation of what the various invaders found in the GW invasions might be interesting...

some will, no doubt be easily over run (like France in 1940 and Kuwait in 1991) while others will be nearly as tough as switzerland or the WYN cluster.... and most would be like Sweden... independent and self dependent to the point of wanting local defense industry capable of building shuttles and small ships.

if one such planet were "chosen" for each border (Hydran/Klingon)(Lyran/Klingon)(Kzinti/Klingon) Klingon/Federation)(Romulan/Federation)(Federation/Gorn) and Gorn/Romulan) that would make 7 planet profiles and a variety of ships (Only seven IWT as the Klingon / Federation / Romulan types would be repeats).

It would be an opportunity to get very minor races represented without having to go the C# route.

By John Wyszynski (Starsabre) on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 02:05 pm: Edit

SFB Master Marine Assault Book: Compilation of all the boarding party diagrams. Companion to the Master Rulebook, Master Annexes, Master Ship Book, and the Master Scenario Book.

Since Modules J2, R8, R9, and R10 don't have charts yet, there is some new material here.

By John Pepper (Akula) on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 02:49 pm: Edit

Jeff, that would be cool!
But I think thats a C module I was think about what could be in a Middle years module and I can fill it up fairly easily. I will post a list later.

By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 05:23 pm: Edit

John Pepper, perhaps.

I wonder if such single hex races would provide enough "meat" for a C module.

It is the kind of thing that each "race" (the single hex planet races mentioned above) could be a single page in a Captains Log. That would be 2 1/2 years (with 3 cap logs a year) to get all 7 planets printed... IMO such a project would be just 7 pages of rules in a SFB module, and 7 SSD's.

I'm interested in what you will come up with for the Middle Years module. Let me know if I could assist in anyway.

By John Pepper (Akula) on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 09:18 pm: Edit

Hey I sure will I'm going to but the my list in the Middle Years Discussion in the Proposals Board/Rules section.

By Joseph Justice (Woodball) on Saturday, July 09, 2005 - 02:31 pm: Edit

Module Q Sub Light Battles, shuttle wars, module V with Titan and Unicorn scenario.

Those are my votes for now

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