When I originally bought the 3-ring punched version of DOOMSDAY (Captain's Rulebook), it came with some nice, durable dividers by letter section of the rulebook with each major (i.e. whole number) rule and/or applicable quick-reference charts printed on each

Well, it's been almost 15 years and, while still holding together, they're getting frayed. And the rules listed are no longer complete.

Could we get something similiar updated and made to be offered for sale?

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 11:55 pm: Edit

That's been asked before.

To have it done the way it was before would cost a fortune, more than a Captain's Log, and all of it in up front cash for a product lots of people would like for free but few if any would pay for.

By Andy Palmer (Andypalmer) on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 09:20 am: Edit

Could we even get updated indexes on standard 8.5 x 11? I think quite a few of us would add the $2-5 for this to another order we make.

(using standard size paper, we can put it into a page protector/tab combo for use with our page protected rules)

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 11:14 am: Edit

Let me think about that one. We could print them on cardstock easily enough. I haven't seen a set of those tabs in years (not entirely sure I ever actually owned one) so remind me, was each letter it's own index and handy charts, or what?

By Andy Palmer (Andypalmer) on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 11:45 am: Edit

SVC. I will have to go home and check book to confirm; there may have been 1 or 2 that combined 2 letters in a single index.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 11:51 am: Edit

If all we have to print is cardstock, and then include or tell you how to find self-stick tabs, this is an easy product to do. It does not matter if the originals combined some letters; we can combine them or not as the mood strikes. The original stuff was printed on pre-made index tab sets and we had to limit ourselves to what was there. If we're doing this over on blank stock with self-stick tabs, we can combine or not combine anything that it amuses us to combine or not combine.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 11:51 am: Edit

And we could call it the Master Index.

By Kerry Drake (Kedrake) on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 12:29 pm: Edit

A-B-C was on one tab
D, E, F were on their own tabs
G-H was on one tab
J-K was on one tab
M-P was on one tab (there was no "O" tab)
There was no Q tab
R was one tab
S was one tab (although I would like to see SG, SH, ST and SU tabs).
W-X-Z was one tab (although now X and Y should probably be tabs of their own)

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 01:35 pm: Edit

Ahem....

The original stuff was printed on pre-made index tab sets and we had to limit ourselves to what was there. If we're doing this over on blank stock with self-stick tabs, we can combine or not combine anything that it amuses us to combine or not combine.

So, yes, we can have X, Y, SH, and whatever else we want.

By Alan De Salvio (Alandwork) on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 02:42 pm: Edit

This would be darned useful for the F&E rulebook as well, particularly if there is a warbook of combined and collated rules (please, please).

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 02:43 pm: Edit

Ok, we had a "creative team" meeting (which means we haven't told Leanna what we're doing and she may shut us down). The creative team is thinking in terms of releasing....

Gold Hat Card game in January

Battle Damage Code Red in February

Master Index Tabs in March

The question is whether anybody can think of anything else along the line of quick, cheap, grognards only, mail order only, products we might release after March.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 02:46 pm: Edit

Well, shucks, there's that fourth product idea ....

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 03:58 pm: Edit

Rodeghero and/or Phelps: Please Email SVC.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 09:23 pm: Edit

I briefed Leanna on the index pages project and she gave it a green light, and even said she would investigate available index tab stock.

By Scott Stohr (Scooter) on Friday, December 23, 2005 - 09:56 am: Edit

SVC,
What about a new Master Weapons chart? The old one had arming information on one side and the other side had damage information. A very useful product and there is new info that could be added.

Scott

By Ken Rodeghero (Ken_Rodeghero) on Friday, December 23, 2005 - 01:58 pm: Edit

E-mail sent to your design@ address, SVC.

Ken

By Ken Burnside (Ken_Burnside) on Friday, December 23, 2005 - 02:35 pm: Edit

SVC - how about a master weapon chart with the arming information incorporated into it, just like we do for Fed Commander, as Budget Product #4?

For Budget Product #5...

Jeff Laikind uses blown up versions of the impulse cards from Module A in his miniatures games - I think he blew them up so one card was 8.5x11, so that it could be seen from across the table, and had them comb bound. (Just the 32 impulse cards, not the beginning and end of turn cards)

I don't know about the comb binding, and don't know if you need 8.5x11" (perhaps 5.5x8.5"?) but this might be something we could do.

By Tos Crawford (Tos) on Friday, December 23, 2005 - 02:41 pm: Edit

Nice, I'd like a bound flip chart impulse deck. It isn't a bad idea to leave the start and end of turn cards as a protective cover. Of course you could also use a laminated DAC as one cover. Add a few more pages for other useful in-play charts; could be a nice product.

By Ivan Kautter (Tachyon) on Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 12:13 pm: Edit

Consider giving Federation and Empire the Federation Commander treatment. I bought F&E with some excitement but have never played mostly due to its complexity. I can hardly ever get through the rules. Very dry reading. This is also the major complaint to be found about the game: too complex, too many rules, too long to play. A similar set of complaints levelled at SFB that FC seems to have addressed. Major project indeed, but I consider F&E your most complete game. If it were more playable, it could only be better for that.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 01:02 pm: Edit

Ivan: It's called Klingon Invasion and is scheduled for Origins 2007.

By Greg Ernest (Grege) on Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 01:04 pm: Edit

Ivan: are you commenting about just the core F&E set? Or any of the expansions? Just curious...

By David Jannke (Bigslowtarget) on Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 01:58 pm: Edit

I may have missed them in the store but any chance of Amazon-like gift certificates? Since I couldn't find them I gave out SFBOL subscriptions this year instead, but that just means no people around me looking to try out their shiny new Fed Commander games.

By Ivan Kautter (Tachyon) on Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 04:37 pm: Edit

Awesome to hear, SVC.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 07:37 pm: Edit

David: email Leanna (sales@starfleetgames.com) and maybe she can set something up. she has done a lot of them for people who asked but I don't know if she ever had a way of just ordering one as opposed to arranging one.

By Mike Todaro (Aurelius) on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 03:22 pm: Edit

Did the dividers ever materialize? I have a set from my Captain's rulebook that are in good condition, but when I get my MRB bound I want to bind a new set in with it.