Jeff Wile:

The date for this as given is the wreck was found in Y162, and was "at least" a hundred years old. That does not mean the wreck is a ship that was in service then, but it implies that there was no technology found on the wreck that was new, or not already known in Y162.

The wreck was found in Romulan space, which in Y162 had only just moved beyond sublight only technology through the treaty of Smarba. It is possible on that basis that the found Klingon frigate (since it is not further defined beyond "a Klingon frigate") might have been an F3, or an F4, rather than an F5. And since the E4 escort is sometimes referred to as a "light frigate," it might even have been an E4.

but since its technology was not remarked on, it is unlikely to have been more advanced than the current Y160s level of technology.

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - 09:14 pm: Edit

Assuming that the comment is from Nexus #1, published LONG before an F3 or F4 was published, it is not likely to be one of those ships, at least in the mind of the writer at the time.

By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - 09:52 pm: Edit

Richard B. Eitzen:

I have no doubt that when it was written in the late 1970s or early 1980s that the intended ship was an F5. The game has grown, and while the date remains fixed (ship is found in Y162), the definition of "Klingon Frgate" has grown. So if you wanted to write fiction using this as a seed, you could tell the story of it being an F3 and its sad fate, a crew who never saw home again.

By Douglas Saldana (Dsal) on Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - 10:36 pm: Edit

The scenario mentions the Klingon wreck in the context of Federation and Gorn research into other possible time travel incidents. Why would they flag these reports as a possible time travel incident if the frigate was just an ordinary F4 or F5? There must have been something else in these reports that defied more mundane explanations for the wreck.

If the technology was more advanced than Y162 it may not have been remarked upon because we only have a second hand report of what was found ("Unconfirmed reports exist of a Klingon frigate found wrecked on an asteroid in Romulan space..."). If the Romulans (or someone else) found a ship from the future they are not likely to share that information with anyone, though other governments might get wind of it through rumors and espionage.

By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - 11:27 pm: Edit

It ***could*** be an advanced refit unknown in year 162.

Heck, what if it was a PFT without any PFs and the repair bays and spare parts supply destroyed?

The ships computers would have references to the flotilla... perhaps the specialists investigating the hulk might conclude that they just found a skiff carrier... and decided it wasn't worth their time to study it.

By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Thursday, November 21, 2019 - 01:24 pm: Edit

Jeff Wile:

Not really.

The problem is that the layout and design would then directly impact the subsequent design. You also get into questions on how much material knowledge impacts future design. A PFT found in Y162 would have materials relating to the last eight years of the General War, impacting subsequent strategic decisions for the empire/side that found the ship. Even if you could not read the ship's computer data (could not crack the encryption or compatibility issues with the more advanced ship's computer or the computer was completely destroyed) there would be all sorts of easily accessed technical readouts (how to fix the engine of the PF, leading to being able to build PF engines, etc.).

From a "time paradox" point of view, it is much better that the wreck that is found is no more than "contemporary" (which is often used in science fiction time travel stories, i.e., "we have just found a wreck which we identify as the Stromberg, but the Stromberg just left port yesterday, how can t his be its wreck?" Or you find the wreck of the USS Cyclops imbedded in a mountain, and it has been there you can tell for a 1,000 years, but the Cyclops disappeared in 1918).

By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - 05:16 pm: Edit

To one and all:

May this Thanksgiving day be one of good cheer and good friends and time with family.

By Russ Simkins (Madcowak) on Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - 06:19 pm: Edit

For some that last one is mutually exclusive from the others

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - 06:37 pm: Edit

Take the well wishes in the spirit they are intended.

By Ken Kazinski (Kjkazinski) on Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - 06:38 pm: Edit

You too Steve.

By Mike West (Mjwest) on Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - 09:28 pm: Edit

Happy Thanksgiving to you, and everyone, as well!

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - 09:47 pm: Edit

Same.

By Jeffrey George Anderson (Jeff) on Thursday, November 28, 2019 - 10:46 am: Edit

And may nobody try to chop your head off, shove stuffing into an... Orifice... And throw you in the oven.

(It's a problem I deal with each year?)

By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Saturday, February 01, 2020 - 01:23 pm: Edit

I am prone to jesting about some things, but given the current contretemps in China currently gracing (if that is the right word) the world stage, I will keep is simple.

SVC has acquired a cold, and has been home the yesterday and today (and should probably have stayed home Thusday as well).

Jean believes she has acquired the cold from SVC, but is currently in the office.

Leanna called in this morning to note that she believes she has contracted the early stage of it, and will remain home.

Mike Sparks is off today in any case, so we do not know if he has it, but we do have fingers crossed.

Similar situation with Samantha.

Given that I was knocked down late last year, I have no interest in acquiring this current "office flu," and so far am not showing any symptoms.

By Norman Dizon (Ichaborn) on Saturday, February 01, 2020 - 01:29 pm: Edit

Is that because you are not of this earth and therefore are immune?

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Friday, June 12, 2020 - 07:04 pm: Edit

SPP:

Is the a topic on the BBS for reports, comments, and suggestions for the various published and future MSSBs?

Thanks.

By A David Merritt (Adm) on Friday, June 12, 2020 - 07:27 pm: Edit

Here are the AARs for the published ones.

http://www.starfleetgames.com/discus/messages/12031/25278.html?1591897291

I don't remember where the coming ones are.

By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Saturday, June 13, 2020 - 11:02 am: Edit

Colonel Strong:

I do not understand your question?

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Saturday, June 13, 2020 - 01:28 pm: Edit

SPP:

I was looking for the topic on the BBS to file comments and requests for MSSBs but was unable to find one. If a topic doesn’t exist how would you like us to send input of such things? Thanks.

By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Saturday, June 13, 2020 - 03:15 pm: Edit

Go to the After Action Topic (Recently Published Products) and you will find a listing of all of the Master Starship Books that have been published to date. If you need to comment on a published book that would be where to do it.

If you want to request a new book, or some change to the sequence of when the books not yet published I suppose this is the place. But the next two books are already scheduled.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Saturday, June 13, 2020 - 08:47 pm: Edit

SPP:

Thanks. It has come to my attention that most of the WYN Fish Ship escorts have cargo capacity but do not universally reference (R2.R5) like the (R12.21) WYN MAKO-ESCORT (DE):

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Uses (R2.R5) to store drones and fighters in the cargo bay.

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By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Saturday, September 05, 2020 - 06:11 pm: Edit

Somebody submitted a scenario titled: "Rats in the Cradle." It involved Space Dragons defending a nursery. If you can tell me who is attacking, I might think you submitted it, but the submitter did not include his name or state.

By Norman Dizon (Ichaborn) on Sunday, September 06, 2020 - 02:18 am: Edit

This definitely sounds like Kzintis would be the Attacking Force. Just like Kitty Cats attempting to steal a Young Chickling from a Nest, the Kzintis would try to assault the Nursery to get at the Little Dragonlings. The Kzinti BC is codenamed "Sylvester."

By Jeff Anderson (Jga) on Sunday, September 06, 2020 - 11:06 am: Edit

Sufferin' Succotash!!

By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Sunday, September 06, 2020 - 11:33 am: Edit

I taught I thaw a puddie cat!