Leeway in fiction?

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By Garth L. Getgen (Sgt_G) on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 11:29 pm: Edit

MJC: I believe the name you're looking for is "Mordechai Vanunu", aka John Crossman. The other name is "Philby", as in "Harold Adrian Russell "Kim" Philby". Interesting role-models you've got there.........


Garth L. Getgen

By Loren Knight (Loren) on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 11:38 pm: Edit

Garth, ya, there is a lot of difference in Brit and Ausi terms and slang. For instance, the Brits have a soup made of chicken and leeks. They call it Cockaleeky soup.

By michael john campbell (Michaelcampbell) on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 11:50 pm: Edit

• Tiffany. And he says it because the computer hooked to his brain is malfunctioning. Looks like I need to flesh that out a lot more.

• Well, "Bite me" is very 20th century but again if the malfunctioning computer is interfacing with his speach then maybe the only english worlds he can think of are twen'cen' words.

• If Mordechai is better than Mordiki than I won't be troubled by the change.

By michael john campbell (Michaelcampbell) on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 11:53 pm: Edit

Apparently to "wag" in the U.K. is not skipping classes.

And in Australia to "root for your team" would be considered by most men to be a dream job.

By David Schultz (Ikvavenger) on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 11:29 am: Edit

I was taking a look around the BBS this morning and came across this thread. Although it hasn't been used in years, I thought it would be a good spot to ask a couple of questions;

1. How is CL set for new fiction? Is it in need of new stories or do they have enough to last them for the foreseeable future?

2. Are alternate reality stories ever considered outside of the official history? Nothing to become or replace official cannon, but just something for an interesting change.

Many thanks.

By Loren Knight (Loren) on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 12:11 pm: Edit

SVC has a regular answer to the CL fiction thing which has been, there is always a need for quality fiction. No one writes for a specific issue. Come time to do CL SVC reviews what is available and picks one (or writes one which he would rather not do... usually... or that's what he says. I think he likes to be creative any way he can.) Write your fiction, try to adhere to the rules as much as possible. Read the Input Guides, and send it in.

As to the second question, I can't say. I wouldn't spend the effort until some sort of Alt Reality module comes out. But that's just me.

And since my post here starts with SVC, he'll probably notice it and answer soon.

By Michael C. Grafton (Mike_Grafton) on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 04:30 pm: Edit

Ditto.

SVC loves to get quality fiction. AND he and SPP have said in the past that they always need more.

Several caveats:

1) The action has to relate to SFB/ SFC action. You should be able to recreate the battle within the rules.

2) Follow the published history, or at least don't contradict it. If your story is in direct opposition to the published history or time line it will recieve some editorial loving (I know my story did).

3) A story using Prime Directive is a harder sell. As PD is a supporting cast member (as opposed to SFB/ SFC/ F&E stars) its harder to get it to centerstage.

4) As for alternate reality? Dunno, but I would GUESS that IF it is consistent with a product (i.e. a story about a GW Paravian etc...) it would be a canidate for a Stellar Shadows issue...

By David Schultz (Ikvavenger) on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 05:06 pm: Edit

Thank you both for your input. :)

To expand on my 'alternate reality' thoughts; The current General War cannon has three decades of thought put into it. And the folks that have had a hand in its development (campaigns, stories, scenarios etc) have really put their hearts into it. It is as wide as it is deep. And I'm not in any way, shape or form saying it should be replaced. What I'm suggesting is simply a parallel reality using the same SFB rules i.e. different alliances, different characters etc within the established rules to give players/writers options.

For example, I really enjoy the game. I also like to write fiction. And so far, those that have read my offerings have enjoyed it. But I'm a bit limited on the standard cannon of the General war for two reasons; first, I don't know ALL of the events of the GW. Yes, I've read the history and stories in Cl's #1-21 so far (with the exception of three). But I don't think I'm qualified to write on it as I don't know that I could do so without bumping against the cannon wall. Secondly, the standard cannon has its 'heroes' such as Stocker, Kummuran etc. I would not dream of messing with those characters as I don't know their full history nor are they mine to mess with.

But I do have several ideas for stories and 'heroes' in a different reality setting. And again, I'm strictly speaking within the established rules. Any such fiction offered and accepted could be identified as belonging to an alternate reality setting.

I have developed a background that can be expanded upon for quite some time with fiction offerings from those other than myself as well as scenarios.

This may not be of any interest to SVC or SPP at all. But I thought enough of it to offer the idea for consideration. Within the established rules it could easily give rise to different characters, a different set of alliances, different intrigue etc. If by chance there is any interest at all, I'd love the opportunity to speak with SVC/SPP about it for possible development. I have one very good (in my opinion) story that could be offered in a series that I think would be entertaining and offer challenging scenarios.

None of this should be construed to replace the standard cannon and standard GW era fiction could still be used side-by-side in a CL as the 'new' fictions can be clearly identified with a history offered beforehand or in addition to the first story.

Anyway, I appreciate any interest or consideration.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 05:28 pm: Edit

Alternate reality would go into SSJ products, which we do far less frequently.

Now, we're doing a little three-page story in CL41 which is not so much alternate reality as, well, you'll see, I don't want to spoiler it. THAT story was an easy sell, for reasons you will see, but a story about a general war where the Feds and Klingons were at war with the Kzintis and Lyrans would never be in Captain's Log.

Such a "Feds and Klingons vs Kzintis and Lyrans" story would be confusing, to say the least, to the history. It might be used as part of a package of stuff (including an F&E scenario).

The CL41 "not real" story is, well, Olivette Roche, obviously not real, and yet, it has a real reason to exist, since it explains things about war, and about warriors, in a way that a real story probably couldn't, and it was fun to read, and it was short.

By Jean Sexton (Jsexton) on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 05:35 pm: Edit

Olivette stands by her sources!

("Is, too, real," she whispers.)

By Loren Knight (Loren) on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 06:00 pm: Edit

Well, the Feds and Klingons did fight together against the Kzinti in the early years...right?
Well, sort of. It was more one at a time with the support of the other, IIRC.

I wonder if the Kzinti eventualy allied with the humans because they weren't Good Eats; too sweet and tender, while Klingons are more hearty (because they eat less sweets and more raw food). Oh, and Klingons don't cry on the chopping block.

Or maybe it was because they had to ally with someone and the Feds were the only ones willing?
:)

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 06:02 pm: Edit

Yeah, Loren, that last one.

By Loren Knight (Loren) on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 06:09 pm: Edit

Yes, but its the first one the Kzinti tell us. Right?

By Mike Curtis (Fear) on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 06:24 pm: Edit

WEBMOM... OR has used your login again... you need to change your password, again...

FEAR
also alternate BBS admin

By Terry O'Carroll (Terryoc) on Friday, May 21, 2010 - 05:34 am: Edit

Areas outside the Alpha Octant have not been explored much. Plenty of room for fiction there.

By David Schultz (Ikvavenger) on Friday, May 21, 2010 - 02:51 pm: Edit

I appreciate all the responses to my post. Since an 'alternate' series would/could not appear in a CL, would there be an appropriate section here on the BBS in which to begin an alternate time line story and add installments as I complete them? Simply for the enjoyment of the reader(s)...

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Friday, May 21, 2010 - 04:14 pm: Edit

Jean can set something up for you. We've done it for others.

By David Schultz (Ikvavenger) on Friday, May 21, 2010 - 04:19 pm: Edit

That would be great, thank you. :)

By Jean Sexton (Jsexton) on Friday, May 21, 2010 - 04:40 pm: Edit

David, here in "New Fiction" at the bottom of the page is a "Create New Conversation" button. Use it to create your topic!

Jena
WebMom

By David Schultz (Ikvavenger) on Friday, May 21, 2010 - 08:21 pm: Edit

Excellent, thank you :)


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