By Nick Blank (Nickgb) on Tuesday, August 07, 2018 - 10:16 am: Edit |
He'll team up with Q and they'll go into winemaking in France.
By Jon Murdock (Xenocide) on Tuesday, August 07, 2018 - 11:22 am: Edit |
I would love to see a good Star Trek show based around Picard coordinating Starfleet activity as an Admiral while tooling around in his flagship.
By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, August 07, 2018 - 02:39 pm: Edit |
If Q is a significant part I am not watching.
By Jon Murdock (Xenocide) on Tuesday, August 07, 2018 - 04:57 pm: Edit |
I think the best use of Q would be to have Benjamin Sisko also show up as a guest that episode and pass on the secret to dealing with him. Q showed up in TNG and Voyager pretty often and loved poking them and listening to their inevitable high-minded moral speeches. That kind of reaction was like catnip to him.
Q appeared in one DS9 episode and Sisko just punched him in the face. Q never came back.
By Steve Zamboni (Szamboni) on Tuesday, August 07, 2018 - 05:19 pm: Edit |
I still want to see Avery Brooks show up in a holodeck sim dressed as Hawk - just to see him give Picard the stare.
By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Tuesday, August 07, 2018 - 05:37 pm: Edit |
Let's have a three way fight between the "ascended" Benjamin Sisko, the "ascended" Wesley Crusher, and "Q."
To the death of course.
And let's shoot the survivor (just to be sure).
Note: I actually still like the actor Wil Wheaton and think he has a pretty good sense of humor, and Avery Brooks has so far not done anything to cause me to dislike him (both of these may have actually done something that would make me dislike them that I am not aware of, I generally do not follow any actors since their personal lives are their personal lives and I do not care, but John DeLancie ...
By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Tuesday, August 07, 2018 - 05:40 pm: Edit |
Throw in John Sheridan and a couple 500 megaton surprises...
By Steve Zamboni (Szamboni) on Tuesday, August 07, 2018 - 05:42 pm: Edit |
Can we tie Wesley Crusher's legs together to make it easier for Sisko to use him as a club?
By Jessica Orsini (Jessica_Orsini) on Tuesday, August 07, 2018 - 10:45 pm: Edit |
I'd be just fine with Picard doing an interstellar Indiana Jones type of thing, to be honest.
By Xander Fulton (Dderidex) on Wednesday, August 08, 2018 - 12:37 am: Edit |
Quote:I'd be just fine with Picard doing an interstellar Indiana Jones type of thing, to be honest.
By Michael Grafton (Mike_Grafton) on Wednesday, August 08, 2018 - 04:19 am: Edit |
Well, Indiana Picard would require a ship to tool around.
So a Free Trader? Or perhaps Skiff?
I would think he'd have the smallest thing that would do the job. Actually a Free Traitor might be better. Guns.
And does he take whatsherface along?
By wayne douglas power (Wayne) on Wednesday, August 08, 2018 - 05:32 am: Edit |
Just thought that these ideas could perhaps make some fiction stories for Captains Log (include some space combat, or combat in an atmosphere).
By Jessica Orsini (Jessica_Orsini) on Wednesday, August 08, 2018 - 10:44 am: Edit |
A runabout (like the Rio Grande from DS9) would do the trick for that kind of storyline. Or they could introduce something new, with a bit more cargo space and room for specialized equipment.
By Jon Murdock (Xenocide) on Wednesday, August 08, 2018 - 11:25 am: Edit |
The Past.....a very early frontier.
These are the voyages of the starship Herodotus.
Its continuing mission, to explore old dead worlds.
To seek out old bones and moldering artifacts.
To boldly catalogue what no one has dug up before!
(Cut to dull sequence of ship flying slowly)
By Will McCammon (Djdood) on Wednesday, August 08, 2018 - 02:13 pm: Edit |
[CSI-like montage of dust being brushed off of Kurlan naiskos artifacts and carbon-dating data scrolling by...]
By Gregory S Flusche (Vandor) on Thursday, August 09, 2018 - 04:53 am: Edit |
yeah until they dig up a virus that kills them all.. our activates a giant killer spaceship.. or
By wayne douglas power (Wayne) on Thursday, August 09, 2018 - 05:21 am: Edit |
....or find new medicine, new planets for the exploring species to live on, find new minerals, new systems, new dangers, new wonders, and new knowledge.
By Alan Trevor (Thyrm) on Thursday, August 09, 2018 - 09:36 am: Edit |
I've got to admit I'm less enthusiastic about this than some of the other people on this board. The fact is, one reason I never liked any of the follow-on series as well as I like TOS is that I've never liked the characters as much. I don't know how much that was due to the actors themselves, versus how much was due to the way the parts were written. But the fact remains that, for all the blatant Shatnerisms, Kirk was... fun... in a way that Picard never was. And as for, say, McCoy versus Crusher...
By Jon Murdock (Xenocide) on Thursday, August 09, 2018 - 12:50 pm: Edit |
Yeah, I can see that.
Kirk was more space cowboy/action hero.
Picard was more an idealized version of Plato's philosopher king functioning as civilian and military leader of an exploring colony.
Kirk's galaxy was running around in the Wild West. Picard was operating in a relatively strict bureaucracy.
Both can be fun but it is more a matter of taste.
Agree on Crusher being dull compared to McCoy. The writers seemed to struggle with writing strong female characters. Troi seemed to spend most of her time being mentally attacked and falling over in pain and Crusher was more an obligatory semi-love interest for the Captain. Pulaski in Season 2 was supposed to be an antidote as a kind of anti-McCoy. Pulaski was supposed to be the one person who could interact with Picard as a near-equal and was willing to tell him he was wrong (later they shoehorned in Guinan to fill this role. McCoy heckled Spock for denying any urge to be human. Pulaski was supposed to be the opposite for Data encouraging him to accept that he is an android and should focus on being a good android instead of on his quixotic quest to become human that everyone else supported Data in. Again, the writers screwed up and Pulaski came across as just a jerk instead of a legitimate opposing view.
Basically I hope the new show has good writers.
By A. David Merritt (Adm) on Thursday, August 09, 2018 - 01:29 pm: Edit |
In my opinion; the various Treks have generally had superior actors, the writing is where they fail. The premises and internal rule setups for the later series and movies were often lacking, but then TOS did not really have a consistent setup either, just a more appealing premise to most of us.
By A. David Merritt (Adm) on Thursday, August 09, 2018 - 01:34 pm: Edit |
One difference to consider on McCoy vs. Crusher is that McCoy ran a trauma setup for military personnel. Crusher was a GP in charge of a small hospital that included family medical care, while rare, she had her episodes as a scientist, or hero, but they were not her forte.
By Jessica Orsini (Jessica_Orsini) on Thursday, August 09, 2018 - 01:58 pm: Edit |
M*A*S*H vs ER.
By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Thursday, August 09, 2018 - 02:27 pm: Edit |
Say what you will about Beverly Crusher, but at one point in the series she had a higher body count of enemies killed than all the Male leads combined. I am pretty sure she was the first "acting captain" to destroy an opposing ship (although it had to be considered both questionable for Picard to have left her in command and for her as a doctor to engage in the deliberate destruction of an enemy ship, even if it was a Borg ship).
Sure, McCoy killed when he had to. But he was never put in charge of the ship.
By Jon Murdock (Xenocide) on Thursday, August 09, 2018 - 02:47 pm: Edit |
She was qualified to command. They made something of a deal of this towards the end of the series where Troi decides to qualify to do the same thing.
The confusing part was that, in the middle of a potential combat situation, they beamed down most of the crew to do a ground search for Data and some Borg and left the lowest person on the totem pole and a bunch of rookie crew on the ship.
Why?!?!?! If you really needed exactly that many bodies why not use the doctor as part of the search and leave a veteran bridge crew. Rookies can walk around and do a ground search. There probably should have been a court-martial for incompetence there.
There was one novel I enjoyed where McCoy annoyed Kirk so much about the privileges of command that Kirk put McCoy in charge when he left the ship to talk to the new species they had found as a semi-joke and then Kirk vanished. Under Starfleet regulations he could not give command to anyone else so Spock refused to take charge. The Klingons show up. He tried to rule himself medically unfit for duty but that did not work either. In the end he diagnoses the opposing Klingon captain with a disease and tells him his doctor is trying to kill him and then both ships team up to kill an Orion pirate. Good fun.
By Jeffrey George Anderson (Jeff) on Thursday, August 09, 2018 - 04:21 pm: Edit |
If I remember correctly, TOS was meant by the networks to be a space western. Gene Roddenberry wanted to do something... More.
In many ways, he chafed under the network a LOT.
With TNG, he had the opportunity to do things HIS way. The characters were, during the first couple seasons, EXACTLY who/what he was looking for.
After his passing, Rick Berman and Michael Pillar (?) took over and things... Changed.
The successive series had nothing to do with what Gene had envisioned.
(Then again, with my memory being what it is, and NOT being what it was, I could be wrong about all this...)
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