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By Mike Grafton (Mike_Grafton) on Saturday, October 24, 2020 - 01:45 pm: Edit

Watch Sea Patrol from Australia. Or maybe Wu Assassin... (heh)

By Garth L. Getgen (Sgt_G) on Saturday, October 24, 2020 - 04:09 pm: Edit

Sea Patrol was pretty good, although I didn't like where the writers went with the second-in-command in that last couple seasons.


Garth L. Getgen

By wayne douglas power (Wayne) on Saturday, October 24, 2020 - 08:37 pm: Edit

There is something out there that has STD-3 as being similar to star wars (from some of the clips I have seen I am not much interested in watching ).

Sea Patrol is a good one.

By John Sickels (Johnsickels) on Monday, October 26, 2020 - 11:25 am: Edit

I like the Star Trek Lower Decks show. I wasn't sure I would, but once you accept the parody elements, it is a fun romp. And lots of TOS and TAS references.

By Nick Blank (Nickgb) on Monday, October 26, 2020 - 04:02 pm: Edit

I loved the image of Kirk and Spock as their '70s animated series forms, and the inclusions of aliens species from that series.

By wayne douglas power (Wayne) on Monday, October 26, 2020 - 04:51 pm: Edit

I can only find clips of Lower Decks, not the full show.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Monday, October 26, 2020 - 07:37 pm: Edit

It is on CBS ALL ACCESS.

By Ted Fay (Catwhoeatsphoto) on Monday, October 26, 2020 - 07:53 pm: Edit


Quote:

It is on CBS ALL ACCESS.


Which you have to pay for. A ridiculously high price, too, seeing as how Netflix is cheaper for a substantially higher quantity of product.

I won't pay for it voluntarily.

But that is just me...

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Monday, October 26, 2020 - 08:12 pm: Edit

While CBS All Access streams Discovery, Picard, and Lower Decks in the United States, they are on CTV Sci-Fi Channel and on the Crave streaming service in Canada.

Outside of the US and Canada, Discovery is on Netflix; Picard is on Amazon Prime; while Lower Decks has not been made available as of yet (though reportedly negotiations are ongoing).

By wayne douglas power (Wayne) on Monday, October 26, 2020 - 11:11 pm: Edit

Discovery and Picard I do not like (they are not star trek). Thanks for the info on Lower Decks.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, October 27, 2020 - 04:41 pm: Edit

LOWER DECKS is kind of a spoof of Star Trek. Funny as all get out, irreverent to a T.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, October 27, 2020 - 04:43 pm: Edit

PICARD is a nasty gritty show, full of social justice and the F-bomb, not deserving of Star Trek or the actors on the show. But the plot does hang together.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, October 27, 2020 - 04:51 pm: Edit

STAR TREK DISCOVERY is something of a mixed bag. I watched it, kinda enjoyed it, but it's not really Trek. It was done as three huge story arcs, more three mini-series than three seasons of a TV show. That is what writers want to write but not what the majority of fans want to watch. It goes overboard shoving social justice stuff down the throat of the fans. I get savaged for any unbiased comment on politics and STD gets away with blatant political propaganda. But after 70 years in this country I'm used to seeing that on every TV show there is other than MAJOR DAD.

The things fans hated most (the mysterious never before mentioned sister, the insane spoor drive that predates Kirk) got resolved with clever writing (buried as military secrets never to be spoken of again and sent far far away into somewhere they cannot return from).

As for Gene's vision, not really, not at all.

Gene's vision evolved over time and continued to evolve after he was gone. The original vision was "wagon train to the stars" by which he meant "copy the TV western 'Wagon Train' in which a group of people take a long journey and have 24 different self-contained adventures along the way." That's what he sold the network.

It evolved into something he sort of intended but never told the networks, an optimistic view of the future in which people were nicer and the vastness of space minimized but did not eliminate the need for war and even for crime.

STD1 has neither of those.

STD2 has neither of those.

STD3 is really just another rehash of "post apocalyptic angst" like Walking Dead or a dozen other shows. Watchable, but not really what Star Trek was about. Still, it's interesting to see how the Star Fleet idealism copes with a world that collapsed and seeks the magic secret that will put all back as it was before. And I'd watch that Chinese lady go Full Battle Mulan on renegades and pirates any day of the week, trek or not. You could put her in the US Civil War beating up slave traders or the English Civil War beating up Roundheads or the Russian Civil War kicking Menshevik butt and I'd watch her while sitting on a recliner full of ice cubes and broken glass.

It really did bother me that a character "already forgot" the hard working crewmen "Hazmat Gene" who was cleaning up the mess of Admiral Leland's shreaded body. I like many thought that was a direct personal insult to The Creator. It cannot be read as anything other than "the writers of this show have already forgotten Gene Roddenberry."

By Ted Fay (Catwhoeatsphoto) on Tuesday, October 27, 2020 - 05:29 pm: Edit

To me, at least ST:P felt more like TNG, and it had lots of nice Easter eggs and references to several past Trek shows, with nods to ST:V and ST:DS9.

ST:D was just plain nasty. References to ST:TOS, were nice but they simply destroyed all of the characters except for Capt. Pike. He was a shining light in the darkness.

I have not seen ST:D, season 3. I only saw the first two because wife bought like a 2-month subscription to CBS All Access (against my wishes) to one of her favorite shows (BBT and Young Sheldon) and I said to myself, "what the hey". Unless she does it again, or it comes out on some other service for free, I will not watch it.

From what I'm hearing from SVC, though, I would dislike it even more than I disliked season 1 or season 2.

Trek WAS about optimism for a utopia. Now it has been perverted into a dystopic vision to maximize conflict for modern ratings.

Trek - at least the Trek we all knew and fell in love with - is dead. It is dead and gone.

I suppose it can be revived, but not with the current set of writers, producers, directors, etc. The whole lot of them need to be tossed out the airlock of their own dystopic ship and replaced with a crew that have a beautiful, bold vision of the future.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, October 27, 2020 - 05:35 pm: Edit

I hate paying for CBSAA but any time a CBS show is on that's where I watch it. No fast forwarding.

By John Sickels (Johnsickels) on Wednesday, October 28, 2020 - 11:48 am: Edit

"an optimistic view of the future in which people were nicer and the vastness of space minimized but did not eliminate the need for war and even for crime."

That's exactly why I love TOS so much as a fictional setting. Optimistic, yes, but not utopian. There's still room for conflict and growth.

By Garth L. Getgen (Sgt_G) on Saturday, December 05, 2020 - 08:32 pm: Edit

The Trek fan-film "PACIFIC 201" (Part 1) is up on YouTube. Run-time -- 18:09


Garth L. Getgen

By Mark Hutton (Trynda1701) on Monday, December 14, 2020 - 07:33 am: Edit

I've said it elsewhere, having watched all of Season 1 and four episodes of Season 2, that Discovery happens about eight timelines over from original TV TOS!

That allows for change in look, a mysterious adopted sister for Spock, no mention, or more importantly, development of the spore drive by the Klingons in TOS. Starfleet might keep it top scret, but the Discovery Klingons saw it in action, and some sensor readings would have been gained.

It also allows for Shatner and Co to have the first recorded encounter with the Mirror Universe, although Discoverys' Mirror Universe is probably a mirror to THEIR timeline, not the TOS one!

See, simple! :)

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Monday, December 14, 2020 - 01:56 pm: Edit

Has it ever been stated whether or not the original concept that eventually led to the Andromeda TV series had been for it to have been the Federation itself, rather than the Systems Commonwealth, which was to be rebuilt? If so, that might help keep the premise behind season 3 of Star Trek: Discovery as something close, or perhaps semi-adjacent, to what Gene Roddenberry might have (at one point) envisioned for the far future of the Franchise.

In any case, I'll be curious to find out more of what is in store for the Star Trek: Strange New Worlds spinoff, as it takes a closer look at Christopher Pike's time in command of NCC-1701.

By Jessica Orsini (Jessica_Orsini) on Saturday, December 19, 2020 - 06:25 pm: Edit

Three glorious words about the last Discovery episode:

GUARDIAN OF FOREVER!

By Stewart Frazier (Frazikar3) on Saturday, December 19, 2020 - 07:25 pm: Edit

Again, for the first time! Considering this is before Kirk and Co. ...

By Nick Blank (Nickgb) on Saturday, December 19, 2020 - 10:40 pm: Edit

No, third season Discovery is like 900 years or so in the future from 1st/2nd seasons. Way after Next Gen/DS9/Voyager era. The Burn that ripped apart the Federation and presumably every other empire happened a could hundred years past, still several hundred years after Next Gen.

By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Sunday, December 20, 2020 - 12:07 am: Edit

Three glorious words...
“I’m, uh, Carl.”

Looks like the portal got some updates since the last time we saw it in Star Trek.

By Patrick H. Dillman (Patrick) on Sunday, December 20, 2020 - 03:12 pm: Edit

I wonder if this had anything to do with the new "name" for Space Force members.

By Jessica Orsini (Jessica_Orsini) on Sunday, December 20, 2020 - 05:50 pm: Edit

Jswile: when the entire quadrant has cracked down hard on time travel, entities that are entirely about time travel have to make some changes if they're to survive.

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