Solid trailer. I'll give it a watch.

By Nick Samaras (Koogie) on Monday, August 11, 2025 - 10:49 pm: Edit

Strange New Worlds is apparently doing a muppet episode in season 4. The cast are going to be replaced with puppets.

Yes, this is were modern Star Trek is at now.

While Star Trek has always had lighter moments, they were once or twice in a 25-episode season. Not every other episode.

By Nick Blank (Nickgb) on Tuesday, August 12, 2025 - 09:24 am: Edit

Partly a consequence of 10 episode seasons I guess.

By Sean Schoonmaker (Schoon) on Tuesday, August 12, 2025 - 01:19 pm: Edit

While I sympathize with folks looking to keep a more serious tone to the episodes, as a fan of the Muppet Show back in the day, I can't wait to see it.

By Nick Samaras (Koogie) on Tuesday, August 12, 2025 - 02:04 pm: Edit

We had Pigs in Space.

By Ted Fay (Catwhoeatsphoto) on Tuesday, August 12, 2025 - 02:09 pm: Edit

St:TNG was better first season. They've had several dog episodes in a row, with the last one off to a bad start but then "OK."

Muppets. Ug.

By Alan Trevor (Thyrm) on Tuesday, August 12, 2025 - 03:30 pm: Edit

For the really OG...

"The Kapusta Kid in Outer Space"

By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Tuesday, August 12, 2025 - 08:35 pm: Edit

Guys, lighten up… after all, Star Fleet Battles gave us…

“…The Creature that ate Sheboygan III…”

How is that any worse the the Cookie Monster?

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, August 13, 2025 - 02:06 am: Edit

At the time we wrote that scenario, SPI had published a game titled THE CREATURE THAT ATE SHEBOYGAN. We were poking friends at that company. We did that a lot.

Phil Kosnett was, at the time, a game designer for SPI, who designed WAR IN THE ICE, a game fighting for Antarctic resources. Phil credited me by name in his designer notes for talking him into including a frozen alien race as a sci-fi alternative.

Jack Radey was a friend of mine, despite being an outright communist, who designed games for his own company. His first game was Korsun Pocket.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Wednesday, August 13, 2025 - 06:13 am: Edit

Star Trek: Starfleet Academy?

Looks more like Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 90210

Please, I don't want a dorm room drama and romance show.

By Jessica Orsini (Jessica_Orsini) on Wednesday, August 13, 2025 - 08:27 am: Edit

I've enjoyed every Star Trek series so far, from the original up through Strange New Worlds. I fully expect I'll enjoy Starfleet Academy as well. The trick is to them for what they are, not for what you would write up yourself. Infinite diversity in infinite combinations, after all.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Wednesday, August 13, 2025 - 07:57 pm: Edit

The production of Discovery was a woke, in-your-face, total farce -- it was not Trek -- it disrespected the entire franchise. It deserves to be a forgotten nightmare.

...but that's my take...

By Ryan Opel (Ryan) on Wednesday, August 13, 2025 - 09:10 pm: Edit

Phil Kosnett is now a retired US Ambassador.

By Ted Fay (Catwhoeatsphoto) on Thursday, August 14, 2025 - 10:10 am: Edit

I, too, strongly disliked ST: Discovery. It was painful in terms of how they hammered you over the head with their woke ideology - and they did so in a puerile, emotion-laden fashion.

ST: Strange New Worlds is not as bad. I expect Trek to be liberal, and STG: SNW is indeed that, but it's tolerable. It's generally much better written. If they would only get away from the bizarre episodes...

More Gorn. Less cartoon, Muppet, etc.

By Jessica Orsini (Jessica_Orsini) on Thursday, August 14, 2025 - 10:33 am: Edit

Ah yes, "woke". By all means, please do define "woke".

By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Thursday, August 14, 2025 - 11:03 am: Edit

According to Google AI…

“… Woke" and "wokeness" are terms that have evolved from their origins within the Black community to become highly politicized and often divisive concepts in contemporary discourse. Initially, "woke" served as a term for awareness of social injustices and systemic inequalities, particularly those faced by Black communities. However, it has been co-opted and redefined by some, particularly on the political right, to represent a perceived overreach of progressive or liberal ideologies. ”

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, August 14, 2025 - 11:10 am: Edit

ST Discovery was awful. Most of the recent Trek has been disappointing ranging to awful. Strange New Worlds is disappointing but not as bad as STD.

By Ted Fay (Catwhoeatsphoto) on Thursday, August 14, 2025 - 11:34 am: Edit

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By Jean Sexton Beddow (Jsexton) on Thursday, August 14, 2025 - 11:44 am: Edit

Folks, the alligators are on the move to this topic. I strongly suggest that the "woke" discussion ends unless the sentence is, "I woke up this morning and love Star Trek."

Jean
WebMom

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, August 14, 2025 - 02:51 pm: Edit

I woke up from my nap and still think STD should never have been done and that the writers and producers should be in prison.

By Mike Erickson (Mike_Erickson) on Thursday, August 14, 2025 - 04:26 pm: Edit

>> Strange New Worlds is disappointing but not as bad as STD

I much prefer the older Star Treks to the new. I've watched a few episodes of SNW and it seems better. It is at least watchable.

One of the things I really like about ST generally is the skillfull ways messages were delivered. Observations about life and society that seemed relevant, but also reflecting the complexity of reality and the hard choices people must make sometimes. The newer STs don't really speak to me on that level.

Or maybe I'm just getting old?

--Mike

By Ted Fay (Catwhoeatsphoto) on Thursday, August 14, 2025 - 04:53 pm: Edit

@Mike: I suspect it's some of both (i.e., writing isn't as good - and we're getting older and more discerning).

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Thursday, August 14, 2025 - 06:28 pm: Edit

I woke up this morning and love Star Trek. STD pretends to be Trek but is not. Just because the wacko producers put a Trek label on it doesn't make it so.

Just like "The Acolyte" was dressed-up to look like Star Wars...

By Robert Russell Lender (Rusman) on Friday, August 15, 2025 - 01:04 am: Edit

I've never watched a single episode of discovery.
And I will fiercely avoid ever doing so!

By Nick Blank (Nickgb) on Friday, August 15, 2025 - 11:04 am: Edit

This weeks episode of Strange New Worlds was pretty good. Classic old Trek style storyline, Kirk's first command in a crisis as acting captain of the Farragut with Spock, Chapel, Uhura and Scotty on board. Enterprise in peril with Pike, M'Benga, Ortegas, Pelia and L'ann. Kirk learning how far he can push his luck while also listening to his crew.

Lots of fun.