By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Friday, June 28, 2013 - 11:18 am: Edit |
Mongoose made up that captain's personal stripes thing. It did not come from ADB and is nowhere in SFU (which contradicts it at every turn). It needs to be deleted and forgotten. (Any time Matthew claims I told him that, he is just not telling the truth.) Their red/orange ships look like something from Doctor Who and that's not a good thing.
By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, July 09, 2013 - 02:12 pm: Edit |
The new production facility is run by Bruce Graw, who has been doing the 2400s (with no production delays and great quality control) for years.
By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Friday, November 08, 2013 - 06:45 pm: Edit |
An update. Everything is fine, and Matthew and I (who discuss this almost every day) are both committed to keeping the 2500s in production (at least as long as enough of you want them). It's just taking some time for Bruce to get his new factory up to speed.
By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Friday, November 15, 2013 - 02:58 pm: Edit |
A photo to help understand the freighter thing.
By Jean Sexton (Jsexton) on Friday, November 22, 2013 - 05:05 pm: Edit |
SVC ANSWERS TO VARIOUS MINIS REQUESTS/COMMENTS/QUESTIONS
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COMMENT BY SVC: We are going to do new 2400s but they will be done CGI to 2500-level detail and (eventually) released in both scales. Some of the new 2400s will be ships that already exist in both scales but are being done for 2400s to 2500 detail levels.
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BACKGROUND BY SVC: Several steps are involved in doing a mini.
1. The CGI model has to be made and approved. Costs vary.
2. The CGI model is "printed" as a "prototype". Costs $50-$200. The prototype has to be inspected by ADB.
3. The prototype is put into a "master mold". Cost is under $20 per ship but has to be done in batches of about six different ships, which means sometimes a prototype sits waiting for more prototypes to arrive.
4. The master mold is spun and yields a master that has to be approved by ADB. Then more masters are made and hand-cleaned to eliminate any excess metal, replace missing details, or fill in any holes. Costs vary.
5. The masters are used to create a production mold, which costs $50. The trick is that some ships need more than one mold; the B9 needed six different molds.
6. Production ships are made and inspected by the factor, then QC inspected by ADB. Cost varies from under a quarter to over three dollars per ship, based on size and how hard it is to get the mold to work. Molds wear out over time and have to be replaced.
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Got any starline ships kicking about?
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ANSWER BY SVC: I don't understand the question. Do you mean any production ships? Thousands of them (see shopping cart for list). Do you mean any not-yet-produced ships? No, the only one around was broken when the post office delivered it years ago.
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Maybe an Orion HCC or CV
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SVC: I don't understand. Do you mean CCH (heavy command cruiser)? I supposed most empires have one of those that has never been sculpted. CV? Externally identical to the base hull, no mini needed.
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Kzinti FFB and DD
Orion Medium Raider
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SVC: On the list but we're not sure they'll sell very well.
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Klingon D17
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SVC: Nobody wanted the mini as it is combat-equal to the D7.
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HDWs, Heavy War Destroyers
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SVC: The Feds have had theirs for years. The Klingon and Romulan were ordered from a non-Mongoose CGI sculptor a week ago (for both scales).
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Tugs and Pods
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SVC: Might do those, but they are not big sellers. Back in the days of the 2200s, retailers refused to even carry tugs.
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Franz Joseph Ships:
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SVC: The DNG in production is close enough to the DN to make a new mini unnecessary or at least a low priority. The CA is done. The DD might be worth doing and will probably be done (as the DDG). The SC and TG would be marginal sellers at best and are far down the priority list.
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If you do the Franz Joseph ships, it occurs to me that if I want to get 3 DD for example, I am going to have to buy 3 squadron boxes, with the issues of not needing 3 tugs or 3 DN, just like the Fed Reinforcements or Squad box 1 now. Would it be possible to sell the FJ ships in a squad box, or in groups of 3 ships (say 3 DD/Scout) to simplify the royalty recordkeeping? Just brainstorming here.
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SVC: Good chance for me to educate the customers. (ADB takes more customer input than any other game company. Why? Because we take the time to teach you how things work so your input is accurate and useful.)
The Franz Joseph ships are sold in 2400-plastic in complete sets because the only way we can buy them is in complete sets. We know that you don't want three tugs, but we have to pay for three tugs, so if you want three plastic 2400 destroyers we have to charge you for three tugs, and if we charge you for them, we might as well send them to you.
Now, if we did a 2500 DDG (technically we can't do a DD but we can do a DDG, welcome to the world of licensed property) we would sell it as a single. There is no way to offer one box everybody wants and no way to offer multiple boxes that sell single-digit copies of each combination.
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Starbase:
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SVC: Use the 2400. Starbases cannot be done to scale (not without spray painting a dinner plate gray) and don't have any external details, so we don't need a new mini at all; the 2400 will do fine. As for stats, yeah, those are easy.
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Monitor or some other Auxiliary if warranted.
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SVC: A 2400 monitor exists. It is not a good seller and I don't see anything but lost money doing a 2500. As for "other auxiliaries" I'm unclear what others exist. The standard "auxiliary" ships are made on freighter hulls, and exist in 2400s which are the same scale as 2500 freighters, so there is no need to do them.
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One of the Rom super heavy cruisers (Killerhawk or other?)
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SVC; Now, that's an idea.
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Romulan KDR
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SVC: The Klingon D5 is already there, but I suppose one with etched feathers might be fun.
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Romulan K7V and KDV
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SVC: Those are carriers, and won't sell to ACTA or Starmada or even FedComm players, as such, they may have to wait until fighter rules are published. For the time being, the Klingon version exists in 2400s.
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Would it be too far off the reservation to suggest a Parts Pack for all the empires? Saucers, Booms, Nacelles and Hulls
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SVC: We're one of very few companies that ever did these. (I think we might have been the first to do so.) We mostly did the small parts (engines as sensor dishes) because if you want a saucer, it's actually cheaper for you to buy the ship.
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Klingon F6, E5, Federation NCL, pol, Gorn DD, Romulan King Eagle, Orion OK6, Orion Double Raider,
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SVC: Those already exist in both 2400 and 2500.
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Gorn FF/Pol
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SVC: Could be an interesting ship as it doesn't exist in 2400s, but then, it's so similar to the DD and would be such a poor seller that there seems no point in doing a separate mini. I guess you could use a 2400 Gorn DD as a 2500 Gorn FF.
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Tholian DD, CA, PC
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SVC: Exist for 2400 and are in process for 2500.
Here's some details there. We got masters that were missing phasers from the CGIs we had approved. So, the first option is to ask Bruce if he can add them to the masters. If not, we'll have to have Mongoose do them over from the CGI level.
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Neo-Tholians, Hydrans, Lyrans, ISC, Seltorians, Vudar, WYN
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SVC: Exist in 2400 and will be done in 2500 when we do all of that empire.
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Peladine, Carnivon, Paravian, Frax.
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SVC: Might do them someday. Might do them in a scale that would work for both 2400 and 2500 since they won't sell well enough to do two sizes.
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Kzinti POL
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SVC: Externally identical to Frigate, which exists in both 2400 and 2500.
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Hydran POL
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SVC: Well, this was a poll for 2500s and since Hydrans' haven't been done for 2500s yet it's kinda moot. Anyway, it's a ship not done for 2400s that might be worth doing sometime. But it's going to be a double-bad-seller. Hydrans well 20% what Feds sell (if that) and no player needs more than one or two police ships.
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PFs, Fast patrol ships, Gunboats.
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SVC: These will be done during 2014; one size will work for both 2400 and 2500.
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Fighters
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SVC: These already exist for 2400s and those will be used for 2500s.
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PFTs for any empire
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SVC: Not sure about those. They're low-sellers (you only need one for your empire, at most two) and in some cases the existing CW is 90% identical. I might comment that gunboats don't exist for FC, Starmada, or ACTA so we might reconsider that after they're in all four tactical game systems.
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Heavy Freighter (four pods)
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SVC: Mongoose was working on this but given the weak engine issues with the other 2500 freighters I don't think what they have will work at all anyway. It would have to be redone with bigger engines on stronger struts. Which is not a deal breaker, and this is a "missing book one ship" and it would sell nicely for both 2500 and 2400 since they're the same size. So that's a good bed.
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Scouts
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SVC: bad sellers, generally, since each player needs only one or two. I'd rather sell you sensor dishes and let you roll you rown.
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Drones, and plasmas
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SVC: Already exist for 2400 and work just fine for 2500. It would be pointless to do new versions for 2500.
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Tournament Command and speciality ships...like Wyn's tourney ships...etc...
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SVC: You'll have to be more specific.
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Will the stands fit the mega maps or will we need new bigger maps?
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SVC: Dunno. The bigger 2500s need the bigger stands, which cost around eight to twenty times what the little black stands (used for 2400s) cost. I am not sure what we're going to do about stands when the current Mongoose-stock runs out.
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Pioneer and Commando Eagles would be really cool if they had extendable landing gear!
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SVC: I can offer no hope such a thing would ever be done.
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Klingon B10
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SVC: Mongoose was in the middle of making this. We're researching to see where it stands.
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Other battleships (Romulan, Kzinti, Gorn)
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SVC: These will eventually get done, but don't ask me (today) when. We don't know what will be in ACTA Book Two yet (battleships might or might not be part of it) which might make a difference. Battleships are already in SFB, FC, and Starmada.
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X-Ships, particularly the Fed
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Not much point in doing just the Fed X-ship. SFB has X-ships but ACTA, FC, and Starmada do not. I suspect that this is 2015 or 2016.
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Can more ships be added to a revised ACTA book one point two?
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SVC: We do not plan to do so.
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I'd like to see "What if" ships..?
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SVC: You have to convince me that they will sell. Consider that it costs at least $100 and maybe $300 or more to get any given ship to market. Hey, maybe we'll have a deal where you sponsor your favorite ship by paying that cost?
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By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, November 27, 2013 - 11:45 am: Edit |
STARLINE MASTER STATUS REPORT: 27 November 2013
This lists only ships which are in the production pipeline. Any ship not listed here is a possible idea for future production.
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2400 KLINGON HF5 heavy war destroyer: CGI ordered from Seattle Shipyard 14 Nov 2013. This will be a CGI ship done with high detail and will be produced in both scales.
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2400 FEDERATION new ship #1: Mongoose told to start CGI work on 26 November 2013
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2400 KLINGON new ship #1: Mongoose told to start CGI work on 26 November 2013
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2400 ROMULAN SabreHawk heavy war destroyer: CGI ordered from Seattle Shipyard 14 Nov 2013. This will be a CGI ship done with high detail and will be produced in both scales.
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2425 SERIES: We have decided to designate the non-scale generic units (bases, freighters, auxiliaries, monsters, shuttles, fighters, seeking weapons) from both 2400 and 2500 as the unified 2425 series which will be used for both scales. The future PFs will be 2425s. We may decide that some of the really minor empires (e.g., Vudar, Seltorian) can just be designated 2425 as their low scales do not justify re-doing them in 1/3200 scale.
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2425 JUMBO FREIGHTER (three pod): CGI ordered from Seattle Shipyard 16 Nov 2013. It will be produced for the 2425 series and used for both scales.
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2425 SHUTTLES: The existing 2400 (ADB) and 2500 (Mongoose) shuttles will both remain in production and will be listed as 2425s. Players may use either or both at their option.
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2500 BATTLE STATION WITH AUGMENTS (missing Book One unit): CGI and prototype were done by Mongoose pre-contract change, but the resulting resin mini is not workable and was discarded. The CGI will be rescaled to match the other 2425s and produced as the augmented battle station as part of the relaunch.
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2500 GENERIC Free Trader (missing Book One ship): CGI, prototype, master, production mold all done by Mongoose pre-contract change. Now in production and on sale. Will be moved to the 2425 category and sold as the Prime Trader since it is the same size as the 2400 Free Trader, which will also be moved to 2425.
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2500 GENERIC Heavy Freighter (four pod) (missing Book One ship): CGI and prototype were done by Mongoose pre-contract change, but were destroyed in a failed attempt to make a master. (The engine struts were defective anyway.) This must be re-CGIed to fix the engines, the re-prototyped to replace the destroyed prototype.
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2500 GENERIC Large Freighter (two pod) (missing Book One ship): CGI, prototype, master all done by Mongoose pre-contract change. Engine struts defective. Design set aside and may be done sometime for 2425 as it is the same size as the 2400 Generic Large Freighter.
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2500 GENERIC Small Freighter (one pod) (missing Book One ship): CGI, prototype, master all done by Mongoose pre-contract change. Engine struts defective. Design discarded as it is identical to the 2400 Small Freighter. The 2400 will be redesignated 2425 and used for both scales.
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2500 KLINGON B10 Battleship: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. High priority.
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2500 KLINGON D17: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. The problem is that the FX/RX phasers don’t work and cannot be made to work, so we’re going to set this aside and someday use the really nice design for a totally different ship.
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2500 KLINGON HF5 heavy war destroyer: see 2400 listing.
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2500 LYRAN Dreadnought: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. Wanted for the relaunch.
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2500 LYRAN Heavy Cruiser: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. Wanted for the relaunch.
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2500 LYRAN Light Cruiser: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending.
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2500 MOBILE BASE (missing Book One unit): CGI and prototype were done by Mongoose pre-contract change, but the resulting resin mini is not workable and was discarded. The existing 2400 Mobile Base will be designated 2425 and used for both scales.
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2500 ORION Battle Raider: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. High priority.
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2500 ORION Battlecruiser: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. Medium priority.
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2500 ORION dreadnought: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. Medium priority.
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2500 ORION heavy battlecruiser: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. Medium priority.
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2500 ORION Heavy Cruiser: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. Medium priority.
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2500 ORION slaver: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. Medium priority.
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2500 ORION war destroyer: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. High priority.
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2500 ROMULAN Saberhawk heavy war destroyer: see 2400 listing.
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2500 ROMULAN Vulture: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. Lower priority.
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2500 Secret Ship #1: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. ZZZZ priority.
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2500 Secret ship #2: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. ZZZZ priority.
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2500 THOLIAN CA (missing Book One ship): CGI, prototype, master all done by Mongoose pre-contract change. Problem is that some phasers on the CGI disappeared on the prototype. Must be re-prototyped.
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2500 THOLIAN DD (missing Book One ship): CGI, prototype, master all done by Mongoose pre-contract change. Problem is that some phasers on the CGI disappeared on the prototype. Must be re-prototyped.
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2500 THOLIAN DN: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. medium priority.
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2500 THOLIAN PC (missing Book One ship): CGI, prototype, master all done by Mongoose pre-contract change. Master requires the standard clean and fill work which Bruce Graw can do. Authorized 27 Nov 13 to do that work and create production molds.
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2500 THOLIAN TK5: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. medium priority.
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By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Monday, December 02, 2013 - 11:37 am: Edit |
STARLINE MASTER STATUS REPORT: 2 December 2013
This lists only ships which are in the production pipeline. Any ship not listed here is a possible idea for future production.
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SHIPS ENTERING OR IN PRODUCTION
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2500 GENERIC Free/Prime Trader and Armed Transport/Cutter. (missing Book One ship): CGI, prototype, master, production mold all done by Mongoose pre-contract change. Now in production and on sale. Will be moved to the 2425 category and sold as the Prime Trader since it is the same size as the 2400 Free Trader, which will also be moved to 2425. Entry will be deleted in a later update.
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2425 SHUTTLES: The existing 2400 (ADB) and 2500 (Mongoose) shuttles will both remain in production and will be listed as 2425s. Players may use either or both at their option. Entry will be deleted in a later update.
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PRODUCTION MOLDS ORDERED: Expect production to begin in two or three weeks.
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2500 Kzinti Dreadnought in metal, ordered 28 November 2013.
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MASTERS BEING REVIEWED: Expect about two weeks before production molds can be ordered.
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2500 THOLIAN CA (missing Book One ship): CGI, prototype, master all done by Mongoose pre-contract change. Problem is that some phasers on the CGI disappeared on the prototype. On 27 Nov, we asked Bruce to send masters to Tony Thomas so he could add the phasers and do the clean-up.
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2500 THOLIAN DD (missing Book One ship): CGI, prototype, master all done by Mongoose pre-contract change. Problem is that some phasers on the CGI disappeared on the prototype. On 27 Nov, we asked Bruce to send masters to Tony Thomas so he could add the phasers and do the clean-up.
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2500 THOLIAN PC (missing Book One ship): CGI, prototype, master all done by Mongoose pre-contract change. Master requires the standard clean and fill work which Bruce Graw can do. On 27 Nov, we asked Bruce to send masters to Tony Thomas so he could add the phasers and do the clean-up.
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SHIPS SENT TO MASTER MOLDS
None as of this report.
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PROTOTYPES OF NEW SHIPS UNDER REVIEW
None as of this report.
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PROTOTYPES OF NEW SHIPS ORDERED: Expect two to four weeks for delivery.
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2500 KLINGON B10 Battleship: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. 30 Nov 2013 confirmed that the last set of corrections was made and ordered prototypes to be made. NEW SHIP ORDER #2
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2500 KZINTI NCA: the one in production is missing two phasers and therefore defective. Reported to Mongoose several times. 30 Nov 2013 issued CORRECTED SHIP ORDER #101 to fix this.
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PRODUCTION NOTES
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2425 SERIES: We have decided to designate the non-scale generic units (bases, freighters, auxiliaries, monsters, shuttles, fighters, seeking weapons) from both 2400 and 2500 as the unified 2425 series which will be used for both scales. The future PFs will be 2425s. We may decide that some of the really minor empires (e.g., Vudar, Seltorian, Andros, any new empires) can just be designated 2425 as their low sales do not justify re-doing them in 1/3135 scale. Note that all of these either have 2500-level detail or the actual space vehicle has no real details so the miniature won’t either.
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2500 GENERIC Small Freighter (one pod) (missing Book One ship): CGI, prototype, master all done by Mongoose pre-contract change. Engine struts defective. Design discarded as it is identical to the 2400 Small Freighter. The 2400 will be redesignated 2425 and used for both scales. Therefore, it is no longer missing. Entry to be deleted in a future update.
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2500 MOBILE BASE (missing Book One unit): CGI and prototype were done by Mongoose pre-contract change, but the resulting resin mini is not workable and was discarded. The existing 2400 Mobile Base will be designated 2425 and used for both scales. Therefore, it is no longer missing. Entry to be deleted in a future update.
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EXISTING RESIN SHIPS DISCONTINUED; SCHEDULED FOR LATER CONVERSION TO METAL
Klingon C8 Dreadnought: Status pending.
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Romulan Condor dreadnought: status pending
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NEW CGIs IN PROCESS
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2400 KLINGON HF5 heavy war destroyer: CGI ordered from Seattle Shipyard 14 Nov 2013. This will be a CGI ship done with high detail and will be produced in both scales. The design will be close to the 2500.
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2400 FEDERATION new fancy ship #1: Mongoose told to start CGI work on 26 November 2013
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2400 KLINGON new fancy ship #1: Mongoose told to start CGI work on 26 November 2013
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2400 ROMULAN SabreHawk heavy war destroyer: CGI ordered from Seattle Shipyard 14 Nov 2013. This will be a CGI ship done with high detail and will be produced in both scales. The design will be close to the 2500.
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2425 JUMBO FREIGHTER (three pod): CGI ordered from Seattle Shipyard 16 Nov 2013. It will be produced for the 2425 series and used for both scales.
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2500 BATTLE STATION WITH AUGMENTS (missing Book One unit): CGI and prototype were done by Mongoose pre-contract change, but the resulting resin mini is not workable and was discarded. The CGI will be rescaled to match the other 2425s and produced as the augmented battle station as part of the relaunch.
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2500 GENERIC Heavy Freighter (four pod) (missing Book One ship): CGI and prototype were done by Mongoose pre-contract change, but were destroyed in a failed attempt to make a master. (The engine struts were defective anyway.) This must be re-CGIed to fix the engines, the re-prototyped to replace the destroyed prototype.
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2500 GENERIC Large Freighter (two pod) (missing Book One ship): CGI, prototype, master all done by Mongoose pre-contract change. Engine struts defective. Design set aside and may be done sometime for 2425 as it is the same size as the 2400 Generic Large Freighter. For the time being, it is no longer missing.
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2500 KLINGON D17: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. The problem is that the FX/RX phasers don’t work and cannot be made to work, so we’re going to set this aside and someday use the really nice design for a totally different ship.
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2500 KLINGON HF5 heavy war destroyer: see 2400 listing.
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2500 LYRAN Dreadnought: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. Wanted for the relaunch.
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2500 LYRAN Heavy Cruiser: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. Wanted for the relaunch.
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2500 LYRAN Light Cruiser: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending.
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2500 ORION Battle Raider: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. 30 Nov, determined that the last email on 8 Jan 2013 cited an error in the sensor grid; told Mongoose to fix it as NEW SHIP #1.
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2500 ORION Battlecruiser: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Mongoose asked on 29 Nov to modify the wings and resubmit the graphics. Medium priority.
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2500 ORION dreadnought: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Mongoose asked on 29 Nov to modify the wings and resubmit the graphics. Medium priority.
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2500 ORION heavy battlecruiser: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Mongoose asked on 29 Nov to modify the wings and resubmit the graphics. Medium priority.
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2500 ORION Heavy Cruiser: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Mongoose asked on 29 Nov to modify the wings and resubmit the graphics. Medium priority.
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2500 ORION slaver: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. Medium priority.
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2500 ORION war destroyer: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. High priority.
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2500 ROMULAN Saberhawk heavy war destroyer: see 2400 listing.
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2500 ROMULAN Vulture: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. Lower priority.
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2500 Federation Secret Ship #1: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. Unknown priority.
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2500 THOLIAN DN: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. medium priority.
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2500 THOLIAN TK5: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. medium priority.
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POSSIBLE NEW SHIPS LIST: Fed Destroyer (DDG, DD-FJ). Gorn DNC, BB, and DBC. Romulan SeaHawk. Kzinti DD.
By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Monday, December 09, 2013 - 02:17 pm: Edit |
STARLINE MASTER STATUS REPORT: 9 December 2013
This lists only ships which are in the production pipeline. Any ship not listed here is a possible idea for future production. Your suggestions are welcome but we cannot delivery every new ship next week. Even a high priority ship can take at least three months from origination to release.
Progress since 2 Dec: Tholian DN and TK5 ordered to prototype.
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SHIPS ENTERING OR IN PRODUCTION
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2500 GENERIC Free/Prime Trader and Armed Transport/Cutter. (missing Book One ship): on cart.
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2425 SHUTTLES: The existing 2400 (ADB) and 2500 (Mongoose) shuttles will both remain in production.
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PRODUCTION MOLDS ORDERED: Expect production to begin in two or three weeks.
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2500 Kzinti Dreadnought in metal, ordered 28 November 2013.
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2500 Romulan King Eagle revision, ordered 2 December 2013. (The old one-piece version is just not workable. All existing inventory has been melted down and new three-piece King Eagles will be available in a few weeks.)
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MASTERS BEING REVIEWED: Expect about two weeks before production molds can be ordered.
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2500 THOLIAN CA (missing Book One ship): CGI, prototype, master all done by Mongoose pre-contract change. Problem is that some phasers on the CGI disappeared on the prototype. On 27 Nov, we asked Bruce to send masters to Tony Thomas so he could add the phasers and do the clean-up. 8 Dec, Tony reports that the masters were received and will be easy to fix and send back to Bruce.
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2500 THOLIAN DD (missing Book One ship): CGI, prototype, master all done by Mongoose pre-contract change. Problem is that some phasers on the CGI disappeared on the prototype. On 27 Nov, we asked Bruce to send masters to Tony Thomas so he could add the phasers and do the clean-up. 8 Dec, Tony reports that the masters were received and will be difficult to fix and it will be a week or two before these can be sent back to Bruce.
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2500 THOLIAN PC (missing Book One ship): CGI, prototype, master all done by Mongoose pre-contract change. Master requires the standard clean and fill work which Bruce Graw can do. On 27 Nov, we asked Bruce to send masters to Tony Thomas so he could add the phasers and do the clean-up. 8 Dec, Tony reports that the masters were received and will be easy to fix and send back to Bruce.
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SHIPS SENT TO MASTER MOLDS
None as of this report.
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PROTOTYPES OF NEW SHIPS UNDER REVIEW
None as of this report.
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PROTOTYPES OF NEW SHIPS ORDERED: Expect two to four weeks for delivery.
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2500 KLINGON B10 Battleship: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. 30 Nov 2013 confirmed that the last set of corrections was made and ordered prototypes to be made. NEW SHIP ORDER #2
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2500 KZINTI NCA: the one in production is missing two phasers and therefore defective. Reported to Mongoose several times. 30 Nov 2013 issued CORRECTED SHIP ORDER #101 to fix this. Possible update: 2 Dec 2013 we asked Tony Thomas to take a shot at fixing the phasers.
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2500 THOLIAN DN: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. medium priority. Tracked down the latest reports on 7 Dec 2013; the ship had been posted for comment in March 2012. Asked staff for final clearance. Approved 8 Dec to move to prototype.
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2500 THOLIAN TK5: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. medium priority. Tracked down the latest reports on 7 Dec 2013; the ship had been posted for comment in March 2012. Asked staff for final clearance. Approved 8 Dec to move to prototype.
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PRODUCTION NOTES
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2500 STANDS We are looking into both of the types of stands that Mongoose used (straight and ball-and-socket) and are also investigating other options. Asked Matthew (again) for information on his two sources on 4 Dec and he kindly sent quotes on both types.
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EXISTING RESIN SHIPS DISCONTINUED; SCHEDULED FOR LATER CONVERSION TO METAL
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Klingon C8 Dreadnought: Status pending.
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Romulan Condor dreadnought: status pending
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NEW CGIs IN PROCESS
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2400 KLINGON HF5 heavy war destroyer: CGI ordered from Seattle Shipyard 14 Nov 2013. This will be a CGI ship done with high detail and will be produced in both scales. The design will be close to the 2500.
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2400 FEDERATION new fancy ship #1: Mongoose told to start CGI work on 26 November 2013
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2400 KLINGON new fancy ship #1: Mongoose told to start CGI work on 26 November 2013
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2400 ROMULAN SabreHawk heavy war destroyer: CGI ordered from Seattle Shipyard 14 Nov 2013. This will be a CGI ship done with high detail and will be produced in both scales. The design will be close to the 2500.
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2425 JUMBO FREIGHTER (three pod): CGI ordered from Seattle Shipyard 16 Nov 2013. It will be produced for the 2425 series and used for both scales. On 5 Dec we saw a work in progress drawing and OK’ed it, more progress photos on 9 Dec.
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2500 BATTLE STATION WITH AUGMENTS (missing Book One unit): CGI and prototype were done by Mongoose pre-contract change, but the resulting resin mini is not workable and was discarded. The CGI will be rescaled to match the other 2425s and produced as the augmented battle station as part of the relaunch.
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2500 GENERIC Heavy Freighter (four pod) (missing Book One ship): CGI and prototype were done by Mongoose pre-contract change, but were destroyed in a failed attempt to make a master. (The engine struts were defective anyway.) This must be re-CGIed to fix the engines, the re-prototyped to replace the destroyed prototype.
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2500 KLINGON D17: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. The problem is that the FX/RX phasers don’t work and cannot be made to work, so we’re going to set this aside and someday use the really nice design for a totally different ship.
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2500 KLINGON D7C: CGI done by Mongoose in Feb 2013 and posted to BBS. Matthew reminded me of this "lost" ship on 3 Dec 2013. The staff reminded me that the wing ridges had been rejected, and I notified Matthew to save the design for some other use and assigned Will McC to come up with another concept.
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2500 KLINGON HF5 heavy war destroyer: see 2400 listing.
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2500 LYRAN Dreadnought: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. Wanted for the relaunch.
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2500 LYRAN Heavy Cruiser: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. Wanted for the relaunch.
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2500 LYRAN Light Cruiser: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending.
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2500 ORION Battle Raider: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. 30 Nov, determined that the last email on 8 Jan 2013 cited an error in the sensor grid; told Mongoose to fix it as NEW SHIP #1.
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2500 ORION Battlecruiser: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Mongoose asked on 29 Nov to modify the wings and resubmit the graphics. Medium priority.
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2500 ORION dreadnought: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Mongoose asked on 29 Nov to modify the wings and resubmit the graphics. Medium priority.
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2500 ORION heavy battlecruiser: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Mongoose asked on 29 Nov to modify the wings and resubmit the graphics. Medium priority.
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2500 ORION Heavy Cruiser: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Mongoose asked on 29 Nov to modify the wings and resubmit the graphics. Medium priority.
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2500 ORION slaver: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. Medium priority.
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2500 ORION war destroyer: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Modifications to shorten the impulse prongs and define the wings were sent to Mongoose on 2 Dec 2013.
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2500 ROMULAN Saberhawk heavy war destroyer: see 2400 listing.
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2500 ROMULAN Vulture: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. Lower priority.
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2500 Federation Secret Ship #1: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. Unknown priority.
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POSSIBLE NEW SHIPS LIST: Fed Destroyer (DDG, DD-FJ). Gorn DNC, BB, and DBC. Romulan SeaHawk. Kzinti DD.
By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Monday, December 16, 2013 - 04:30 pm: Edit |
STARLINE MASTER STATUS REPORT: 16 December 2013
This lists only ships which are in the production pipeline. Any ship not listed here is a possible idea for future production. Your suggestions are welcome but we cannot deliver every new ship next week. Even a high priority ship can take at least three months from origination to release.
Progress since 9 Dec: Orion BR ordered to prototype (10D). Attempts to do a few clear resin ships were abandoned as not workable (10D). Got revised Orion CA-BC-BCH (13D) and posted them for comment.
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IF YOU HAVEN’T FIGURED IT OUT you only have to read the above part. The below part is just so you can look up where your favorite ship is.
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SHIPS ENTERING OR IN PRODUCTION
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2500 GENERIC Free/Prime Trader and Armed Transport/Cutter. (missing Book One ship): on cart.
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2425 SHUTTLES: The existing 2400 (ADB) and 2500 (Mongoose) shuttles will both remain in production.
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PRODUCTION MOLDS ORDERED: Expect production to begin in two or three weeks.
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2500 Kzinti Dreadnought in metal, ordered 28 November 2013.
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2500 Romulan King Eagle revision, ordered 2 December 2013. (The old one-piece version is just not workable. All existing inventory has been melted down and new three-piece King Eagles will be available in a few weeks.)
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MASTERS BEING REVIEWED: Expect about two weeks before production molds can be ordered.
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2500 THOLIAN CA (missing Book One ship): CGI, prototype, master all done by Mongoose pre-contract change. Problem is that some phasers on the CGI disappeared on the prototype. On 27 Nov, we asked Bruce to send masters to Tony Thomas so he could add the phasers and do the clean-up. 8 Dec, Tony reports that the masters were received and will be easy to fix and send back to Bruce.
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2500 THOLIAN DD (missing Book One ship): CGI, prototype, master all done by Mongoose pre-contract change. Problem is that some phasers on the CGI disappeared on the prototype. On 27 Nov, we asked Bruce to send masters to Tony Thomas so he could add the phasers and do the clean-up. 8 Dec, Tony reports that the masters were received and will be difficult to fix and it will be a week or two before these can be sent back to Bruce.
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2500 KZINTI NCA: the one in production is missing two phasers and therefore defective. Reported to Mongoose several times. 30 Nov 2013 issued CORRECTED SHIP ORDER #101 to fix this. Possible update: 2 Dec 2013 we asked Tony Thomas to take a shot at fixing the phasers.
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2500 THOLIAN PC (missing Book One ship): CGI, prototype, master all done by Mongoose pre-contract change. Master requires the standard clean and fill work which Bruce Graw can do. On 27 Nov, we asked Bruce to send masters to Tony Thomas so he could add the phasers and do the clean-up. 8 Dec, Tony reports that the masters were received and will be easy to fix and send back to Bruce.
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SHIPS SENT TO MASTER MOLDS
None as of this report.
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PROTOTYPES OF NEW SHIPS UNDER REVIEW
None as of this report.
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PROTOTYPES OF NEW SHIPS ORDERED: Expect two to four weeks for delivery.
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2500 KLINGON B10 Battleship: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. 30 Nov 2013 confirmed that the last set of corrections was made and ordered prototypes to be made. NEW SHIP ORDER #2
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2500 THOLIAN DN: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. medium priority. Tracked down the latest reports on 7 Dec 2013; the ship had been posted for comment in March 2012. Asked staff for final clearance. Approved 8 Dec to move to prototype.
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2500 THOLIAN TK5: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. medium priority. Tracked down the latest reports on 7 Dec 2013; the ship had been posted for comment in March 2012. Asked staff for final clearance. Approved 8 Dec to move to prototype.
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2500 ORION Battle Raider: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. 30 Nov, determined that the last email on 8 Jan 2013 cited an error in the sensor grid; told Mongoose to fix it as NEW SHIP #1. Revisions received from Sandrine on 10 Dec, approve for prototype same day.
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PRODUCTION NOTES
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2500 STANDS We are looking into both of the types of stands that Mongoose used (straight and ball-and-socket) and are also investigating other options. Asked Matthew (again) for information on his two sources on 4 Dec and he kindly sent quotes on both types.
Clear Resin Ships: These will NOT be happening (ever). The technology is just not workable at the AOG casting house, which is why they disappeared a long time ago. Sometime next year we will see if some other casting house can do these, but I have zero confidence.
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EXISTING RESIN SHIPS DISCONTINUED; SCHEDULED FOR LATER CONVERSION TO METAL
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Klingon C8 Dreadnought: Status pending.
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Romulan Condor dreadnought: status pending
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NEW CGIs IN PROCESS
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2400 KLINGON HF5 heavy war destroyer: CGI ordered from Seattle Shipyard 14 Nov 2013. This will be a CGI ship done with high detail and will be produced in both scales. The design will be close to the 2500.
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2400 FEDERATION new fancy ship #1: Mongoose told to start CGI work on 26 November 2013
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2400 KLINGON new fancy ship #1: Mongoose told to start CGI work on 26 November 2013
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2400 ROMULAN SabreHawk heavy war destroyer: CGI ordered from Seattle Shipyard 14 Nov 2013. This will be a CGI ship done with high detail and will be produced in both scales. The design will be close to the 2500.
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2425 JUMBO FREIGHTER (three pod): CGI ordered from Seattle Shipyard 16 Nov 2013. It will be produced for the 2425 series and used for both scales. On 5 Dec we saw a work in progress drawing and OK’ed it, more progress photos on 9 Dec.
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2500 BATTLE STATION WITH AUGMENTS (missing Book One unit): CGI and prototype were done by Mongoose pre-contract change, but the resulting resin mini is not workable and was discarded. The CGI will be rescaled to match the other 2425s and produced as the augmented battle station as part of the relaunch.
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2500 GENERIC Heavy Freighter (four pod) (missing Book One ship): CGI and prototype were done by Mongoose pre-contract change, but were destroyed in a failed attempt to make a master. (The engine struts were defective anyway.) This must be re-CGIed to fix the engines, the re-prototyped to replace the destroyed prototype.
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2500 KLINGON D17: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. The problem is that the FX/RX phasers don’t work and cannot be made to work, so we’re going to set this aside and someday use the really nice design for a totally different ship.
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2500 KLINGON D7C: CGI done by Mongoose in Feb 2013 and posted to BBS. Matthew reminded me of this "lost" ship on 3 Dec 2013. The staff reminded me that the wing ridges had been rejected, and I notified Matthew to save the design for some other use and assigned Will McC to come up with another concept.
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2500 KLINGON HF5 heavy war destroyer: see 2400 listing.
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2500 LYRAN Dreadnought: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. Wanted for the relaunch.
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2500 LYRAN Heavy Cruiser: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. Wanted for the relaunch.
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2500 LYRAN Light Cruiser: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending.
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2500 ORION Battlecruiser: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Mongoose asked on 29 Nov to modify the wings and resubmit the graphics. Medium priority. On 10 Dec, Sandrine asked for clarifications of the wings of the four big orions. Got and posted revised CGIs on 13 Dec.
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2500 ORION dreadnought: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Mongoose asked on 29 Nov to modify the wings and resubmit the graphics. Medium priority.
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2500 ORION heavy battlecruiser: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Mongoose asked on 29 Nov to modify the wings and resubmit the graphics. Medium priority. Got and posted revised CGIs on 13 Dec.
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2500 ORION Heavy Cruiser: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Mongoose asked on 29 Nov to modify the wings and resubmit the graphics. Medium priority. Got and posted revised CGIs on 13 Dec.
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2500 ORION slaver: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. Medium priority.
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2500 ORION war destroyer: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Modifications to shorten the impulse prongs and define the wings were sent to Mongoose on 2 Dec 2013.
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2500 ROMULAN Saberhawk heavy war destroyer: see 2400 listing.
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2500 ROMULAN Vulture: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. Lower priority.
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2500 Federation Secret Ship #1: CGI started by Mongoose before contract modification. Status pending. Unknown priority.
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POSSIBLE NEW SHIPS LIST: Fed Destroyer (DDG, DD-FJ). Gorn DNC, BB, and DBC. Romulan SeaHawk. Kzinti DD, Klingon SD7.
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