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Ken, I doubled the width of the body / passenger compartment, and added a bit of length to make it "look right".

Also, remember that if you "double the 6.25 x 4.00 meters" and make it 12.50 x 8.00 meters, that would be FOUR times as large.


Garth L. Getgen

By Ken Kazinski (Kjkazinski) on Sunday, October 18, 2020 - 09:21 am: Edit

Good point.

Since a drone is 1 cargo point and the HTS can carry 50, I would think you would have to increase the length of the shuttle to allow for the space. At 4 meters in width could put the drones in width-wise. To determine the length, if you stack the drones 5 tall (0.75m per drone), you would need 10 rows of drones or about 7.5m in the cargo area.

As a comparison, the C-5 Galaxy has a cargo compartment of 17.2 ft (5.24 m) wide by 13.5 feet (4.11 m) high and 100 ft (30.5 m) long.

The other thing to think about is how big is a pallet and how many drones fit on a pallet, that could also help in determining the cargo bay size.

A airline pallet is: Air Container Dimensions Main Deck Pallet (Equivalent to IATA Type 2)
External Displacement: 606 cu ft/17.16 cu m
Maximum Gross Weight: 15,000 lb/6,804 kg
Maximum External Dimensions: (L x W x H) Contoured
125" x 96" x 96"
317cm x 244cm x 244cm

By MarkSHoyle (Bolo) on Sunday, October 18, 2020 - 09:46 am: Edit

Would drones be shipped/transported with their warheads/ fins etc mounted... If not that would shorten the drones.....

By Garth L. Getgen (Sgt_G) on Sunday, October 18, 2020 - 12:03 pm: Edit

Ken, love having those C-5 numbers! By any chance, do you have the same for the C-130 Hercules??

For comparison, I built the POL's cargo hold as 10.0 x 20.0 x 5.75 meters (32.8 x 65.6 x 18.8 feet).


Bolo,

I agree. That's what I had in mind. It would have allowed drones to be moved in two parts from the cargo hold to the drone rack or shuttle bay via a standard turbolift. However, someone thought I was trying to open a backdoor a "new rule" that would allow hot-swapping of warheads. {sigh}


Garth L. Getgen

By Stewart Frazier (Frazikar3) on Sunday, October 18, 2020 - 05:25 pm: Edit

Garth, there is a size-four cargo shuttle (J2-R1.F14) that can hold 100 spaces of cargo.

Yes, a transported drone would have slightly different dimensions than those on the rack/wing...

By Garth L. Getgen (Sgt_G) on Sunday, October 18, 2020 - 11:05 pm: Edit

Stewart, given that neither the HFS nor the VFS can operate from ships, I'm not going to worry about them. Someone else can figure those out. ;-)


Garth L. Getgen

By Mike Dowd (Mike_Dowd) on Monday, October 19, 2020 - 12:58 am: Edit

Garth:

Capacity: 42,000 lb (19,000 kg) payload
C-130E/H/J cargo hold: length, 40 ft (12.19 m); width, 119 in (3.02 m); height, 9 ft (2.74 m). Rear ramp: length, 123 in (3.12 m); width, 119 in (3.02 m)
C-130J-30 cargo hold: length, 55 ft (16.76 m); width, 119 in (3.02 m); height, 9 ft (2.74 m). Rear ramp: length, 123 inches (3.12 m); width, 119 in (3.02 m)

Source: WIKIPEDIA

By Garth L. Getgen (Sgt_G) on Monday, October 19, 2020 - 07:17 am: Edit

So, pretty much the size of a school bus. That's what I figured the last time I rode in a C-130.


Garth L. Getgen

By Robert Russell Lender (Rusman) on Monday, October 19, 2020 - 07:05 pm: Edit

I don't have my rules handy. What does an Admin shuttle take up in cargo space (both ready for flight & as cargo)?

Answering those questions should also go a long way to providing a reasonable guestimate as to the actual dimensions of the HTS.

By Garth L. Getgen (Sgt_G) on Monday, October 19, 2020 - 11:29 pm: Edit

Admin stored = 25 points, flight ready = 50 points, can carry 15 points. Per Module G3, page 156.


Garth L. Getgen

By Ken Kazinski (Kjkazinski) on Tuesday, October 20, 2020 - 12:20 am: Edit

I was looking for images of a pallet of missiles being loaded into a C-5 or another cargo aircraft but I could not find a pallet of missles.