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From a post on February 13, 2006

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By Dal Downing (Rambler) on Sunday, October 05, 2025 - 03:37 am: Edit

No these map was just a8.5 x11 of the SW corner of the overall F&E Map.

By Joseph Mannino (Joemann) on Sunday, October 05, 2025 - 01:07 pm: Edit

That was in Total War Preview from AoG, which was from Module P3: F&E Mini-Scenario (1101.0) Firewall. Total of 13 hexes and the Hydran Old Colonies. Lyran victory conditions was to build bases in 0117, 0118 and 0119, while the Hydrans were to prevent construction in those hexes. Total of 6 turns.

By Mike Erickson (Mike_Erickson) on Sunday, October 05, 2025 - 01:32 pm: Edit

Is that downloadable from anywhere today?

--Mike

By Ryan Opel (Ryan) on Sunday, October 05, 2025 - 03:26 pm: Edit

I don't think P3 is available for download anywhere. I think all the SFB scenarios have been published outside of playtest now.

We, the F&E staff, could consider adding this to the basic set rules when it's reprint/update comes out.

Ryan
F&E Staff

By Dal Downing (Rambler) on Sunday, October 05, 2025 - 05:54 pm: Edit

Okay now I know whay I am looking for but its all packed away... But thank you. I thought I was going nuts.

By Ryan Opel (Ryan) on Wednesday, October 08, 2025 - 11:08 pm: Edit

DAl,

That last part is a separate question. :)

By Garth L. Getgen (Sgt_G) on Saturday, October 18, 2025 - 11:29 pm: Edit

I found some old files from like seven years ago -- I was working on a Mirror Universe F&E map / scenario.

Premise: The Federation has become a large, bloated, corrupt empire. It has a very large but outdated fleet (e.g., no NCL yet). The other empires (Klingon, Lyran, Kzinti, Hydran, Vudar, Carnivon, Gorn, and Romulan) are young and hungry. They have much smaller fleets but with newer ships (e.g., CWs). The ISC is a growing threat because they are an expansionist empire who have developed BATS bases that can moved and redeployed rapidly as they push the borders out. Finally, there is the Tholian Holdfast; these invaders from another galaxy just had a population boom (like a cicada brood hatch) and must take territory to grow or die. The Tholians have a unique way of building BATS/SB -- they stack pinwheels.

I made two versions of the map. The first is the same size as the F&E map 61x19.

The second map is larger at 75x25 to cover the entire Federation and ISC empires. It adds the Paravian sanctuary where they rebuilt after being almost annihilated by the Gorn. Finally, the new threat is a wormhole delta: four end points that connect to a passageway to the Andromeda home galaxy. They can send one mothership per endpoint per turn (or per year, if game balance requires).


If anyone is interested in this idea, I can open a separate thread under Scenario Proposals to discuss further.


Garth L. Getgen

By Dal Downing (Rambler) on Monday, October 20, 2025 - 05:46 am: Edit

Dumb question time. What order should I buy the F&E Expansions in?

By Garth L. Getgen (Sgt_G) on Monday, October 20, 2025 - 05:34 pm: Edit

Just bite the bullet and buy everything at once. :)


Garth L. Getgen

By Ted Fay (Catwhoeatsphoto) on Monday, October 20, 2025 - 06:12 pm: Edit

@Dal,

That's... a hard question.

Theoretically, each expansion is a stand-alone product that self-balances. So, get whichever seems more interesting if you're budget conscience.

Practically... in reality they were published in a chronological order with prior expansions "in mind." So, I would get the expansions in chronological order of original publication.

On the other hand, Garth is also right. Adding all the expansions together gives you the complete modern version of the General War scenario (the grand campaign, as it were).

It also depends on what you're looking for. If you want to do the ISC romp across the Galaxy, then get ISC war. However, if you're wanting the complete General War experience, then probably ISC war can wait and (to a lesser extent) minor empires can wait, but all the other expansions should be purchased.

YMMV

By Stewart Frazier (Frazikar3) on Monday, October 20, 2025 - 06:17 pm: Edit

Not sure if this is the best order but here's a quick listing …

F&E [2K] (Core game)
FO Fighter Operations
CO Combined Operations
AO Advanced Operations
PO Planetary Operations
SO Strategic Operations
TO Tactical Operations
IW ISC War
ME Minor Empires

By A David Merritt (Adm) on Monday, October 20, 2025 - 06:49 pm: Edit

Another consideration.
If you are joining an existing group, see which they use. Not everyone uses all expansions.

By Paul Howard (Raven) on Tuesday, October 21, 2025 - 02:31 am: Edit

Accepting 'budget' is always an issue, I personally think the first 3 expansions (FO, CO and AO) add the most to the game and IMHO are the most interlinked.

If you can afford 3 - I would go for them.

if I could only afford '1' - I would go for FO first.


Not sure if I would go for CO or AO second though - CO perhaps introduces the largest single game change dynamic (variable Electronic Warfare) - but AO adds alot in general.


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