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From a post on February 13, 2006

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By Alex Chobot (Alendrel) on Monday, March 16, 2026 - 03:29 pm: Edit

It’s a single requirement: 75% of the Battle Force must be Kzinti, whether ships or ship equivalents. Your interpretation creates nonsense situation like a Battle Force of all Gorn ships with no fighters or PFs but a single independent Kzinti attrition unit then qualifying for the fast drone bonus.

And my illustrative battle force is legal if they are the only units in the hex.

By William Jockusch (Verybadcat) on Monday, March 16, 2026 - 05:10 pm: Edit

I don't think there is much practical value in theorycrafting a Z line without carriers. In practice, it won't be used much.

By Paul Howard (Raven) on Monday, March 16, 2026 - 05:48 pm: Edit

Alex

A Gorn FLeet with 6 Kzinti fighters wouldn't meet the requirement - as the ships still count for Ship Equivalents.

i.e. Ships count to both and Ship for just Ships.

3 Kzinti Ships and say 3 Alliance Fighter groups would though meet the requirements under the ship equivalent.

If you had the Fed DW and 3 x 6 Kzinti IFF, you could have the DW and 6 IFF - or 3 x IFF...

(IIRC!)

William
Yep - you might be right!

By Alex Chobot (Alendrel) on Monday, March 16, 2026 - 06:27 pm: Edit

Ships do not count as ship equivalents - they are already ships. The point of (501.91) and (502.46) is to allow fighters and PFs - non-ship units - to count as ships for specific rules and functions. It doesn’t work the other way.

(302.36) says that half of the ships (not ships or ship equivalents) in the hex must be in the Battle Force and that IFFs cannot be more than half unless all there aren’t enough ships present, in which case all are included. As the only ship in the hex, the DW would satisfy this - all ships are included, so any remaining portion of the Battle Force may be IFF. As the only ship in the hex, it’s also the flagship under (302.321) no matter how many IFF there are.

Are you arguing the Alliance player may choose wether or not they include ship-equivalents in determine the Kzinti percentage in a round to round basis?

By Paul Howard (Raven) on Tuesday, March 17, 2026 - 03:20 am: Edit

Alex

We probably have made the examples too complex - as other rules still apply - the Federation FF and 3 Kzinti IFF's the Federation FF has to be flag - and therefore due to the Minimum 50% Flagship requirement, I think that overrules the ability to add other IFF's ovger the normal 50% IFF restriction?

On Fast Drones - yes thats the way I read it.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, March 17, 2026 - 04:22 am: Edit

If I were the gorns I would just ask the kzintis to send drone bombardment ships.

By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Friday, March 20, 2026 - 02:13 pm: Edit

Just got the email that Print and Play will finish all remaining orders in-house and officially close its doors on March 27th.

They did include this information in the email however:

"We deeply appreciate all of the creatives, designers, and publishers who have allowed our team to contribute to this amazing industry over the years. We’re truly proud of the work that Print and Play has put out into the world and would like to thank all of our loyal customers for their years of patronage.

Questions can be directed to sales@admagic.com with “Print and Play” in the subject line if it refers to Print and Play specifically, or “Quote request” if you need pricing on your project. We will do our best to answer you as soon as possible. AdMagic will still be available to handle your printing needs.

Sad, it was a good company while it lasted.

By Jason E. Schaff (Jschaff297061) on Sunday, March 29, 2026 - 09:20 pm: Edit

Reaching out to the hive mind.

Having just purchased some copies of Sheet Zulu, I find myself in need of a couple more counter storage trays. Unfortunately, the ones I have used for many years, Plano 3700 thin 5-34 grid, seem to no longer exist. The couple places I can still find with them in-catalog list them as out of stock.

a. Does anyone know if there is still a supplier of this design? I like them because they don't suffer counter leakage between cells, even with rough handling.

b. If they don't exist anymore, what do other folks use?

By Nick Samaras (Koogie) on Sunday, March 29, 2026 - 11:46 pm: Edit

Jason, I use these from Michaels. Lots of compartments, no spills. Also each compartment has curved bottoms making it easier to scoop out counters.

https://canada.michaels.com/product/32compartment-no-spill-bead-storage-organizer-by-bead-landing-10468278?michaelsStore=3927&inv=3

By Ryan Opel (Ryan) on Sunday, March 29, 2026 - 11:57 pm: Edit

Jason,

I use Plano 3700 prolatch.

https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Plano_3700_Pro-Latch_Stowaway_4-Pack/descpage-PSFP.html

By Jason E. Schaff (Jschaff297061) on Monday, March 30, 2026 - 07:57 am: Edit

Nick: Thanks! A first glance, that looks like a perfect substitute.

Ryan: I took a look at those, but they're not enough compartments for the space. While my counter collection is substantial, it comes nowhere close to the scale of yours or Mike's. :)

By Tom Lusco (Tlusco) on Monday, March 30, 2026 - 08:54 am: Edit

Jason:

Ugh and yes! That is one of my great frustrations too. I have seven or so of the thin 3700, and if I could start again would have just bought 20 of those. They are the best for F&E IMO. Instead I have those plus like 10 3700 prolatch and 8 3600s. Its silly.

By Daniel Glenn Knipfer (Dgknipfer) on Monday, March 30, 2026 - 07:50 pm: Edit

uuuggghhh!!!

I have so many Plano 3700 boxes, and it still isn't enough.


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