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From a post on February 13, 2006

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-- SVC

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By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 10:36 am: Edit

Most people probably use ziplock baggies. Mike C, Ryan, and a few others use plastic storage boxes that have compartments to separate their counters by empire as well as by type.

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 10:44 am: Edit

Ziplock baggies (with a sticky label on the inside) can be useful for saving the position of a game in progress.

I have used plastic storage boxes as described by Turtle above which work well enough.

By Randy Blair (Randyblair) on Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 10:50 am: Edit

I have ziplock baggies with fleet sticky labels on the outside that seem to work. I play maybe 1-2 F2F F&E games a year. More PBEM games than F2F.

By jim howard (Noseybonk) on Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 11:48 am: Edit

matthew,you might want to buy a lot more counters from the spare parts page as well. i have an old edition (86) and a few expansions (carrier war (old) and special operations (old).) and i'm currently waiting for my new 2010 box to arrive at the local shop. i also recently purchased $80 in extra counters and im still no where near the numbers i'll need/want. i've just started a cyberboard game but im using the game itself on my table so i can properly visualise whats going on, im low on several counters and its TURN ONE! (imagine how stressed im going to be when i cant get another D6 or Lyran CA for lack of counters ( i'll be able to computer wise but not on the game map.).

welcome to F&E :D

my counters are stored in a storage box with 32 compartments. sadly this is not enough and recently i purchased some larger storage. plan for about 4-5 times what you think you will need, even then im not sure that will be enough!.

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 11:53 am: Edit

Matthew, welcome Cardboard Addicts Anonymous. My name is Turtle. I can quit at any time, but why?

By Mathew Tate (Tatertot18) on Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 12:03 pm: Edit

Wait...how many counters? I thought it was a large number to punch already...and where am I going to store all of these/hide them from my wife??

By Mike Curtis (Nashvillen) on Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 12:11 pm: Edit

Get three large (50 gal) opaque tubs, in your cave (You have one, right?) put up a 15 inch shelf to put the three tubs on lengthwise. Next, get 24 compartment plano type large tackle boxes, 5-7 per empire depending on how large the SIT is and put each ship type in each space. Some spaces may require more than one space in the future as you acquire more cardboard (Fed FF for example). You can then, incrementally, add to these boxes without showing anymore cardboard coming into the house.

It is all about planning ahead.

By jim howard (Noseybonk) on Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 12:15 pm: Edit

hehe thats the question isnt it.

those coming in the box will not stop me purchasing another bunch of alpha and bravo (i already have one of each from the spare parts order i have done (im thinking at least three more of each on these two alone (making 8 copies (hmm maybe i'll get 5 more making ten each...) and that doesnt include the old box edition counters etc etc.).) sheets and im currently pondering what else to get in multiples.

garth laughed at me when i said $600 on the game. now i totally understand, i just got started :D
you have to play catch-up too :D

i suggest getting your feet wet with a game for sure though, and soon.

By jim howard (Noseybonk) on Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 12:17 pm: Edit

wait, we better stop, we'll scare him off.....

By Mike Curtis (Nashvillen) on Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 12:19 pm: Edit

Here is a picture of what I am talking about. The three large tubs hold the counters. The two left clear tubs are model railroad storage. The smaller clear tub holds foam board mounted fleet charts. The card board boxes are for moving my computer and two monitors if needed to another location. The Hexagonal thing on the far top is the center map for EB Andro.

My top shelf in my cave

By jim howard (Noseybonk) on Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 12:22 pm: Edit

nice set up mike.

By Mathew Tate (Tatertot18) on Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 12:57 pm: Edit

Very nice indeed. Unfortunately as a father of young children in a smaller house my arrangements have not developed to what I would call ideal. That being said, I do have quite a bit of learning to do and I'm sure I will figure out what I need as time goes on. Thanks again to everyone who is so willing to offer their wisdom here!

By Bill Steele (Bill83501) on Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 02:13 pm: Edit

The way we play is if you have 11 points to take, you can crip 2 BC for neg 9 points, but if you crip a FF, then take 6 fighters, then crip the BC, you only get the one negative, because the fighters are one point units.

By Mike Curtis (Fear) on Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 02:28 pm: Edit

Mathew, whatever you do, don't give up on it. The online tools, Cyberboard and Vassal, provide a way to have the game in a small space (your computer), this can't get messed up by felines or small children. Just keep that in mind. Lots of folks here will be willing to play with you and you don't even have to miss bedtime for the kids! (Yes, it wasn't long ago that my 16 and 14 year old were that age!)

By Mathew Tate (Tatertot18) on Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 03:42 pm: Edit

Nobody will be chasing me away, I've been thinking about this game for the last few years, finally decided to pull the trigger!! I will find a way and when my kids are older hopefully they will join me...

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 03:56 pm: Edit

Richard wrote:
>>If that was adopted, there should be no limit for involuntary minus points. (For instance, if you kill an escortless CVA exactly, with no where for the fighters to go). It's not something the destroyed ship's owner gets to manipulate.>>

Ah, yeah, that is probably a better plan. The short version is that there should probably be a limit of 3 voluntary minus points in any combat round. Like, you could certainly cripple something bigger if you want for whatever reason, but only can count 3 minus points for any particular round. Just like in a pursuit fight (more or less).

By Jason Langdon (Jaspar) on Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 07:08 pm: Edit

Ive only ever used counters once. The rest of the time I have used Vassal - either playing PBEM or live with another player.

In fact, even if another player was in the room with me I would probably still prefer to play using Vassal.

Much less risk of a 5 year old deciding to help Daddy play by making big piles of ships for me.


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