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From Klingon Admiralty
To : IKV Ship Yards
Spring 169
We have noticed in the Northern War, that both the Kzinti and Lyran Frigates seem to be underpowered.
You are hereby ordered to begin construction of a new frigate range - Designated B4.
Due to the enemy likely to discover this plan - we will use the Code Word 'B10' for all development plans from here on.
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To Klingon Admiralty
From IKB Ship Yard
Summer 169
We have began construction on the new range of B10's, as per your specifications.
Due to the nature of the project, the usual build time is likely to be exceeded, but we are hopeful that Spring 170 will see the introduction of the prototype B10.
We have succesfully fabricated parts of the Main hull (Roll of 5), and development on the engines is now proceeding.
End of Message
(I am going to have some fun with the B4/B10 
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Coalition Tugs
Lyrans
TGC 1102 Battle Pod
TGP 1102 Supply Point
TGC 903 Battle Pod
TGP Far Stars FRD
TGC 408 New MB
Klingons
TGC 1307 BP
TGA 1307 BP
TGB 1509 VP
TGA TBS Eps
TGA 1411 New Eps
The TGP in 1102 is pretty interesting
Quote:Turn 2
B10 5
You do know that the B10 can't be started until Turn 3, FY169 right?
Michael
Ooops...
I just saw 169....and thought OK!
Ignore the 5 spent on the B10! - Balance is 5 Ep's
So, I'll convert a D6 to D6D at the TBS SB.
Balance 2 Ep's
Operational movement has been completed.
What would appear to be pinning battles occur over 902 and 1304.
Moderate fleet elements (including cripples in most cases) - attack 701, 703, 1202, 1104, 1205, 1405 and 1506.
The bulk of the Coalition navy, with the outer Kzinti defences pinned, and with Lyrans in supply from the supply tug descend upon 1401!
The Marquis reserve goes to 1401...to support the low number of defenders there.
Battle occur in 601 (CC v 6 Fighters) - fighters retreat, BATS 701 is destroyed, but a uncrippled Lyran CL is first crippled and then destroyed.
...onto the battles at 1401.
Klingons spend 4 Command Points (+2 per system), Lyrans spend 2 Command Points (+1 per system).
I was concerned that with only 4 Klingon command hulls (2 Battle Tugs and 2 D7C's), the Lyrans might need to put up a good battle line or two!
The Alliance declined the approach, and the Coalition broke into 4 attack waves - one for each system.
After two rounds of assaults, Kzinti Minor, Keevarsh Minor and Vielsam Minor (1st one) are all Self Devastated.
The Coalition have not yet lost any hulls, but 17 Klingon hulls are crippled, and 13 Lyran hulls crippled - with 10 of the 14 fighters killed.
The Kzinti losses are much lighter, but more serious.
Over two planets, the Coalition directed on ships, killing a 2CVE and TGT+VP Pods. 7 other hulls have been crippled and 21 fighters (over and above carriers and bases killed) destroyed.
All crippled Kzinti ships have sought refuge in the Barony - by retreating out of the combat zone.
A third wave of Coalition forces appear to be approaching the home systems once more...
Well, the battle for 1401 has concluded.
Feinting to draw Kzinti forces away from the capital, and the Kzinti declining, the battered Coalition forces decided to withdraw, and before the Kzinti was aware of the withdraw, their enemy had escaped.
The end results for the Butchers bill?
The Coalition lost 2 D6M's (both directed) and a F5 (also directed on as was previously crippled).
29 Klingon ships are crippled, and 19 Lyran ships.
The Kzinti had 2 Major planets devastated and 4 Minors devastated, and in addition the Capital planet is beleived to have suffered 70% damage on it's defences - only the 1st, 4th and 8th Battalions are beleived to be still active.
The Kzinti lost afew more EFF's and took a couple more cripples, as the bulk of the damage fell on their planets.
The Kzinti now doubt will want there revenege!
In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful,
The Enemy has taken the bait and struck at Kzintai. Many brave Kzinti were martyred, including the crew of a carrier tug, a CVE, and 3EFF. The Enemy has visited much death and destruction on the home system.
Praise be to Allah, for the Enemy fleets have suffered great damage. Their repair yards are expected to be overwhelmed, Allah willing.
Coalition Combat on Turn two is over.
Kzinti BATS in 703, 1205 and 1405 1605 have also been destroyed, for the crippling of a couple of Coalition vessels (I actually got lucky, although two 'auto kills' without taking damage required some clever thinking, as the 'auto kill' round didn't - when BIR went down and I rolled 1's - therefore requring a further round!).
1202, 1105 and 1605 have also been captured, again with minor cripples.
Coalition forces are preparing to retrograde to repair and re-group.
Coalition Forces have regrouped on the original Kzinti borderline - but with significant 'liberation' forces left in Kzinti space.
It is hoped the people of the Kzinti nation will remain welcoming us, as happened at 1202 and 1105 - and will rise up and overthrow your Evil Dictator. We are here to help you Kzinti Friends!
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Klingons spent 9 Ep's on CEDS Repairs and 2 Ep's on Field Repairs (Balance after 20 Ep's arrvied from Lyrans is 9 Ep's)
Lyrans spend 16 Ep's on Field Repairs (Balance is 4.2 Ep's).
4 Reserves have been formed to defend our Kzinti friends from aggression by their former dictator.
Kzinti Economy Turn 2
Total from Previous Turn 29
Capital 18
Onmap majors 5
Onmap minors 6
Onmap Provinces 21
Other (specify)
Offmap 17
Survey Roll 4
Survey Total 14
Total Income 67
Grand Total 96
CVS+MEC [steals EFF from the CVE group] 18
FF -> EFF (offmap) 1
BC -> CC (Marquis and home) 4
4PDU 28
EFF [902 -- paid for in 902 grid] 0
Total 51
Expenditures:
Construction and Conversions 51
Repairs (Repair Phase) 14.5
Other (Specify)
Total Expenditures 65.5
Left at end of Economic Phase: 30.5
In addition, there is 0.5EP at 902. An additional 1EP is either at 902 or 1004 depending on the answer to the following rules question:
The Kzinti have a partial grid based at 902 and another partial grid based at 1004. Province 1004 is disputed and will provide 1EP. Hex 903 is in province 1004 and has a supply line to 902.
Question: Is it legal for the Kzinti to take the 1EP from that province at 902, by saying that it starts in 903, which is in the province, then traces supply to 902? Or do they have to start the EP at 1004 (where it will be stuck)?
In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful,
The Prophet Mohammed (Peace be upon Him) said:
One afternoon in battle for Allah is worth more than 60 years at prayer.
The Caliph expects to spend many years in battle for the cause of Allah. Since one afternoon of battle is worth more than 60 years of prayer, it follows that a year of battle is worth more than 60*365=21900 years of prayer. Imagine the Paradise that awaits any of the Caliph's subjects who fight for Allah, at the Caliph's side, for many years!
The Caliph has sent a message to the Sultan of Hydrax:
My dear Friend,
Allah has granted You a reprieve. There are so many Apostates here that there cannot possibly be many on Your border.
William
Keeping it simple -
As 903 is part of the 902 Partial Supply grid (and 903 is part of the other province), I would say you can have it as just 1 Partial grid.
Well, the SB and BATS don't have a supply path to each other. So they can't be part of the same partial grid.
However, I agree that it makes sense to allow the EP to start in any hex of the province not occupied by the Coalition.
So it will start in 903, trace supply to 902, and be deposited there.
Kzinti Final Economy Turn 2
Total from Previous Turn 29
Capital 18
Onmap majors 5
Onmap minors 6
Onmap Provinces 21
Other (specify)
Offmap 17
Survey Roll 4
Survey Total 14
Total Income 67
Grand Total 96
CVS+MEC [steals EFF from the CVE group] 18
FF -> EFF (offmap) 1
BC -> CC (Marquis and home) 4
4PDU 28
EFF [902 -- paid for in 902 grid] 0
Total 51
Expenditures:
Construction and Conversions 51
Repairs (Repair Phase) 14.5
Other (Specify)
Total Expenditures 65.5
Left at end of Economic Phase: 30.5
CEDS [other 1.5EP come from 902 grid] 2
Left at end of Alliance turn: 28.5
Well, the Caoltion failed to fall into the Kzinti trap...and the Kzinti failed to fall into the Coalition trap.
The juicy 'weak' target left open by the Lyrans of a FRD in Kzinti space was not juicy enough to tempt the Kzinti forward.
Meanwhile, outsidde of 1401, the Kzinti did what they could to force a reaction to create a third battle hex - to no avail.
Two battle's was faught for a total of 3 rounds of damage.
At the first battle, a Kzinti DF was killed, plus fighters, in eachange for crippling 3 D5's.
In the second battle, a Kzinti FF was killed, plus more fighters, in exchange for the death of 4 Klingon fighters, plus the crippling of a D7C and 2 F5L's'. In the persuit battle, a further EFF was killed by the persued, who lost one of the F5L's to directed damage, plus a D6 was crippled.
Kzinti forces have retrograded back to 1401 and 1304 - to await the oncoming attack.
In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful,
Although Allah's navy will be victorious in the end, we must prepare for a temporary Enemy occupation of Kzintai.
All master starship design files, essential scientists, and surplus dilithium crystals must be evacuated to the Barony immediately!
Every able-bodied adult male (other than essential scientists, engineers, and factory workers) must report for military service. Failure to do so, or cowardice in the face of the Enemy, will be punished by immediate execution.
The Coalition Military hearby orders full producton of military units, to quell the northern rebellion.
Lyrans
Turn 3
BC - 10
CA - 8
3 x CW - 15
2 x DW - 8
DW DWS (S) 6
3 x FF - 7.5
Can't build K BP's -4
50.5
Command Point 5
5
Based
FRD 10
Conversions
411 - FF DW 3
404 - CA CC 1
408 - CA DN 6
Repairs Eps
803 - 12 6
705 - 4 2
404 - 16 8
707 - 3 1.5
608 - 8 4
1307 - 12 6
27.5
Balance after 20 Ep's allocated to Klingons, 0 Ep's
Turn 3
D7C - 9
D7 - 8
D6 D6M (S) 10
9 x D5 - 45
1 x F5Q - 10
F5 F5S (S) 4
F5 F5S (C 1509)) 4
2 x E4 - 5
F5L+E4 2FV (S) 13.5 1 FF used
B10 5
113.5
Command Point 5
5
Mothball
2 x D6 2
2 x F5 2
3 x E4 3
Conversions
1411 - D6 (MB) D6M 5
1411 - D6 (MB) +2 E4 3D6V 4 5 Free Fighters used
1411 - F5 (MB) F5S 1
Repairs
5 x BAT (4) 10
1408 - 12 6
1307 - 6 3
Balance before 20 ep's arrive 4.3 Ep's
Tugs
Turn 3
Lyrans
TGC 1202 Battle Pod
TGP 1102 No Pod
TGC 803 Battle Pod
TGP 1306 FRD
TGC 1407 FRD
TGC 411 FRD
Klingons
TGA 1303 BP
TGA 1307 BP
TGB 1307 VP
TGB 1716 FRD
TGA 1415 MB
TGA 1212 VP
TGA 1411 Eps
TGA 1411 Eps
We shall crush this rebellion, and end the war!
From Klingon Admiralty
To : IKV Ship Yards
Fall Spring 169
Kzinti spies have sucessfuly penetrated our 'secret defence facilty - and taken flawed plans we hope will waste there resources'.
Orders for the Construction of a new series of War Cruisers - designated B10, hereby begins.
Maximum Security - Subject Races Graded Ultra Blue and below may not work on this project.
It is imperative, our plans do not fall into enemy hands.
Klingon Admiralty
End of Message
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Roll of 2 for 1st B10!
In the name of His Majesty HydraPhtha, Sultan of Hydrax
Dear Ambassadors KingOfTheJungle and Kumerian,
The Sultan wishes to convey to the Klingon and Lyran Empires His personal assurances that He and His Royal Fleet will continue to scrupulously adhere to the terms of the Treaty of Silmark.
Nothing could be dearer to the Sultan's heart than the maintainence of peace with His Klingon and Lyran friends.
I am confused about how the Hydran carrier groups count for various rules.
First of all, both the CV and UH say they have "one oversized squadron" of fighters. Does this mean that a battle force containing 4CV+4ID or 4UH+4ID would be legal, with all the fighters counting? Or even PAL+3x4CV, assuming that command points had been used?
For pin purposes, a related question. Suppose, for example, that a fleet consists of six 4CV groups and nothing else. How many ship equivalents does it have for pin purposes? Two possibilities that I can see:
24 ships count as 24
14*6 fighters count as 14
38 total
or . . .
24 ships count as 24
the fighters on the 6 CVs are each one squadron, so that's another 6
the DE's have 18 fighters -- another 3
total is therefore 33.
Base 2K does not have oversized fighter squadrons (I forget when that was introduced, but I think it was Advanced Operations). So in your example one of the carriers must leave some fighters in the bays.
For your second question you just add up all the fighter factors and divide by six. It does not matter if the squadron is six fighters or eight (or any other number) for pinning, you go by the actual ship equivalents of fighters.
The first two fights of Operation 'Kzinti Freedom' have concluded.
Over 1502, the planet was liberated, and the Kzinti DD withdrew undamaged.
The Coalition lost an E4A (direct killed when ithad been previously crippled), plus suffered 2 x E4A, F5 and E4 crippled - plus several pilots was lost.
(I should have left the outer Escort uncrippled, but I tried to maintain compot...)
At 1004, the BATS was killed, and the Lyrans suffered a crippled CW.
Dice so far have been fair on both sides (the Coalition seems to outroll - but a fair numbers of time, only by 1, which far too often causes no more damage (we are using the 5% chart) - whereas when the Kzinti outroll they get it the right way around (example, 1st round of 1502, difference was 3 on the dice, which was enough for +10% damage - if both rolled 1 higher - difference would have been only 5% 
)
902, 1304 and 1401 still to be done!
Over-sized squadrons were introduced in AO, page 12, 318.8 and put into FO, page 14, 318.8. If you are using either of them then your first example would be legal (4CV+4ID or 4UH+4ID), but your second example would not be (PAL+3x4CV). This is because you are limited to only 1 Over-sized squadron in any particular battleline and your 2nd example has 3. The second and third CV group would have to break up their squadrons and only field 12 true CV factors (the DEs can still use theirs), leaving 10 in the bays.
For your second question, Zargans mostly right. When you mess around with Fed fighters (or if you use Heavy Fighters) you count squadrons, NOT factors. So 3-3CVB squadrons (which add up to 24 factors) only counts as 3 SEs for pinning, NOT 4. But 3-3SPB groups (Romulans) have 4 SEs because they have normal fighters.
Michael,
I don't think that is correct about the Fed fighters. Sure they have larger than normal squadrons (8 or 7 instead of 6), but unless you can point out a rule I am missing, every 6 fighter factors is one SE, not each squadron is equal to one SE.