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As you point out, no LDR invasion is allows due to lack of rules. So why? LDR order of battle is published, and rules would be really easy to make (even house ones). My guess is because a Hydran conquest of the LDR would upset game balance. It would be really easy and produce all kinds of Klingo-Lyran security problems. If so, all the more reason for the Hydrans to do it. I checked the proposals board and no one is even working on this. Perhaps the time has come.
nuf said
lol the last thing the Hydrans need is more enemies.
Ezekiel,
Play balance. It's a huge boon to the Coalition, and if the Hydrans have lost their capital and attack it, it is a huge boon to them. Game breakingly huge, in both cases.
I wrote a scenario involving the LDR, but it was to balance the scenario.
actually under the rules as written the LDR can enter the war. If the Hydrans do not maintain a diplomat at the LDR capital the LDR rejoins the Lyrans.
How is it an advantage if the enemy gets the LDR forces?
William,
You misread me. If the LDR is in Coalition hands, it's great for them, and good for the Hydrans if they (the Hydrans) can capture it, after losing their capital (they'd never hold it beforehand).
Invading, or joining the side?
You are REALLY reading too much into it.
LDR on the Coalition - very powerful for them
LDR on Hydran side - very powerful for them
game breaker in most instances, regardless how it occurs.
Clear???
Coalition turn 11 op move is underway. I think I overdefended Earth somewhat; Paul denies this but also didn't attack it 
. The Klingons have sent pinning forces to some Fed planets; additionally they have forces which are strong enough to take minor planets 2509 and 2403. The Feds could save 2509 with a reserve, though the same reserve also faces the Romulans, so depending on the Romulan move, they may or may not choose to save the planet.
The Klingons do have some ships left to move on the Fed front -- enough to threaten one or possibly two more planets.
Only minor movement has taken place on the other fronts. Paul sent a lot of tug pods to the Kzinti front, which makes it likely he will be able to retake Kzintai, at least temporarily.
It is believed the ISC may be at work, in attempt to restore peace to the Galaxy.
Despite repeated attempts to force engagments between Coalition and Alliance forces, those forces declined to engage. It is believed the orders was not received by the units in question.
(The hotel I stayed in last night, had a Wireless connection that varied between non-existant and nearly there - we basically got 15 mins of chat and 75 mins of 'are you there??' 
!)
Normal service will be resumed tonight!
Coalition turn 11 op move is done. Coalition will likely take 4 Fed minor planets, plus several provinces, and retake Kzintai. On the Hydran front, they will recapture a Klingon planet, and they have about a 70% chance of killing a crippled Paladin.
It is interesting to see the impact of Romulan entry on the Federation economy:
Turn 7: 75% of 197EP
Turn 8: 186EP
Turn 9: 194.2EP
Turn 10: 171.2EP
Turn 11: about 145EP (pending)
On turn 9, the Feds (helped by the early release of 6th fleet) actually gained ground vs. the Klingons, and on turns 8-9 combined, the Fed economy was basically unchanged. But on turns 10-11, they are dropping a total of about 50EP.
On the flip side, the Coalition fleets in Fed space are now pretty badly extended, several will be unable to retrograde, and some will even be out of supply. So the Feds ought to be able to make some effective counterattacks on their turn 11.
Should be a very interesting turn...
The Paladin - I would but it's survival chance at about 20% (namely failing persuit...plus a slim chance of not getting enough damage to kill it....but we shall see!!!).
First kill so far is a Hydran SC (plus 3 Fighters, which will not be replaced, as Fleet will be Out of Supply).
I predict signficant numbers of Hydran ships will be out of supply on Alliance Turn 11!
With regard to the Feds - hopefully they will not build their full allotment of ships - as they had a large defict after Alliance turn 10!
(I'll post Coalition builds later...but the Klingons underbuilt by 2 ships....their Economy is very much understrain)
Newsflash......the Hydrans have no uncrippled Paladins.....
(I reduced my chance to fail to 16.6% (i.e. the 6 on persuit) as I direct crippled the other Paladin.... - Persuit succeded though...)
and had a had a 1/6 chance of killing BOTH Paladins (William miscounted - 35% would do 20 damage - enough for a Form Palaldin via Mauling and a line Paladin via normal directed) - missed it, but still got one of them.
Hydrans have 4 fleets cut off (including the Cripple Paladin!)
In Kinzti Space - 1401 is 'liberated' along with 3 other planets.
In Federation Space, the timely arrival of a Kzinti reserve, saved a Federation BATS and FRD!
The Kzinti are fast running out of Frigate Hulls though...(another 3 killed this turn so far - of which 1 was captured)
Yes, the Hydran forces in Klingon space are being made to feel most unwelcome. I think Hydran casualties for the turn were PAL, TG, SC, 2CU. The Hydrans had a 50% chance to kill a mauler but missed it, and had to settle for an F5E, plus two maulers crippled.
The sneaky Hydrans do in fact have an uncrippled Paladin. They have secreted it in the Tholian Home Fleet, far from the prying eyes of Klingon spies. They also have two crippled Paladins, and an uncrippled Iron Duke . . .
Paul is outrolling me for once.
Coalition Combat for Turn 11 has been completed - the death tolls read as follows -
Lyrans - CW (already crippled) Killed
Klingons - F5E Killed
Romulans - SKE Killed
Plus about 18 crippled (including 2 Maulers) ships
Hydrans - Paladin (already crippled), TG, 3 x CU, SC Killed, plus 1 Klingon planet recaptured by Klingons
Kzinti - EFF and SF killed, 1401 and 4 minor planets recaptured by Coalition
Federation - 3 x FF, 5 x BATS, 1 MB and 9 PDU's killed - 6 minor planets captured by Coalition.
Plus 1 Dozen or so crpples.
The Kzinti Economy looks pretty good still though (based on 20 Ep's being enough for it's needs!), and the Hydran Economy is nearly untouched - the Federation Economy though hopefully will show signifcant shortfalls.
Retro's to be done!
Well, assuming no forces evacuate provinces, I have calculated, that including Orion, the Federation are down 84 Ep's!
10 Ep's for Orion
24 Ep's for caputured Planets
38 Ep's for captured Provinces
12 Ep's for contested Provinces.
It's still too high - I need to capture some of those Major planets!
Retro, CEDS and SM done.
CEDS
Lyrans 6 Eps
Klingons 14 Eps
Romulans 13 Eps
EP Transfer 8.8 Ep's to Klingons from Lyrans
9 Reserves are set up
4 facing the Hydrans
2 facing the Kzinti
3 facing the Federation
(None are full strength, but range from 3 ships (although this one has a Condor and Mauler in it!) to 8 ships strong - most being 5 ships or more strong).
It is noted, the increased activity on the Romulan/Gorn border - and it is hoped the Gorns will remain out of the war.
Newsflash.
Senator Chamberlain, Leader of the Romulan Senate has returned for a trip to Ghdar, with a peace of paper confirming the Gorns remain a peaceful race, and see no need to enter th war.
It is hoped the Friendship between the Gorns and Romulans will extend across the Galaxy, allowing the other waring nations to return to peace.
Kzinti Economy Turn 11
Total from Previous Turn -3.55
Capital
Onmap majors 2
Onmap minors 1
Onmap Provinces 5
scrap captured ships 2
Offmap 27
Survey Roll 11
Survey Total 115
Total Income 37
Grand Total 33.45
Econ and Repair Phase Expenditures
SF 3.5
Shipyard (4 of 6) 15
Repairs 14
Total E+R expenditures 32.5
Left at end of Econ Phase 0.95
Hydran Economy Turn 11
Total from Previous Turn 0.4
Capital 17
Onmap majors 5
Onmap minors 6
Onmap Provinces 18
NZ 0.4
Offmap 25
Scrap F5 (1 or 1.5??) 1
[Note: The rules say half of the crippled defense, rounded down. But does the rounding apply when we are tracking fractional EP? If not, Hydrans may spend a little more.]
Survey Roll 12
Survey Total 96
Total Income 72.4
Grand Total 72.8
Econ and Repair Phase Expenditures
Repair:
1st 7.5
Hydrax 8.5
Offmap 3
Build:
LB, DG 17
TR, 2HR 15
LN 4
3CU, 2HN, SC 16
(1HN at 1st SB)
Total E+R expenditures 71
Left at end of Econ Phase 1.8
Federation economy Turn 11
Total from previous turn -32.1
Capital 59
Onmap majors 20
Onmap minors 12
Onmap provinces 40
Off-Map base 6
Survey 12
Scrap E4 1
Survey Roll 24
Survey Total 135
Total Income 150
Grand Total 117.9
Econ and Repair phase expenditures:
Builds
11FF, FFS 37
5NCL, DD 31
Skipped: DN, 2CA, 5NCL 0
[1NCL used in CEDS]
Activations 7
Conversions
3CVS 4
Repairs:
Earth 5.5
3008 7.5
2808 2
2907 3
2905 1.5
3206 2
2901 2
Survey Area 5.5
2201 7.5
2103 2
Total Expenditures 117.5
Left at end of Economic Phase: 0.4
Command points available:
Hydrans 4
Kzinti 2
Federation 3
I was about to say, I think it is straight Ep's for Captured Ships, but as I received 1.5 Ep's for a Federation FF - I am either wrong, or yes!
I would suggest you get 1.5 Ep's for the ship!
OK, Hydrans do a DG > LB conversion at Hydrax. Balance 0.3EP.
Brief Summary of Coalition Turn 11 Builds -
Lyrans
Turn 11
BC - 10
CA TGC (S) 8
3 x CW - 15
DW - 8
DW DWS 6
3 x FF - 7.5
54.5
Conversion
408 2CW, DW to 3CVL 16
404 DW to DWS 2
36 Ep's on Repairs
Note - Got my Free Fighter turn the wrong way round - so my 'Free Fighters' will be used next turn! Not a biggie..the Klingons would have only demanded the money
Klingons
Turn 11
D7 D6M (S) 10
7 x D5 - 35
2 x F5L 2 x F5 (S) 6
3 x F5 3 x F5 7.5
3 x E4 - 7.5
2 x D5, F5 3D5V 17
B10 5
88
Mothball
2 x D6 2
Conversions F5 to F5E 1
Note - D7C and D6 not built!!
36.5 Ep's spent on Repairs
The B10 has reached 27 construction points - so average so far is 3 construction points per D6 roll !
Romulans
Turn 11
Con 17
FH 8
2 x SP 10
SP SPF(S) 7
SP+SK+SK 3SPB (S) 18
SK SKF (S) 6
WE FAL (S) 10
SN (4015) 2.5
78.5
Conversions
3617 WE KE 3
(Alas Ships was in the wrong positions for another Carrier Group!)
22 Ep's spent on Repairs.
I have decided - I need to get the bulk of the huge back log of crippled ships repaired before turn 16 - otherwise, they will never be repaired!!
This will mean less new ships (especially Klingon ones) being built - but thats the price you pay!
I have decided - I need to get the bulk of the huge back log of crippled ships repaired before turn 16 - otherwise, they will never be repaired!!
I was wondering about that . . . of course I will continue to do my best to add to said backlog . . .