Finally read the ISC rules.

The ISC logistics ROMP capability is simply sick. I love it.

By James Lowry (Rindis) on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 01:32 am: Edit

ISC HFP: Sheet Four has 4 of these pods (0[8H]). Since there is no '+' or '-' in the name, these would seem to be tug or LTT pods. However, (545.12) does not note such an exception. The ISC SIT does not seem to list the HFP at all, though there is the LTT-only LHF (0[8H]) pod (limit 2). Should I mark two of these as Tug pods, and 2 as LTT pods?

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 03:18 am: Edit

ISC SIT: DNE: The SIT lists this unit as 11-13/7. The physical counter is 11-13/5-7. -James Lowry 10/19/2011 STRONG: The counter has the correct value; please correct SIT.

By Peter A. Kellerhall (Pak) on Thursday, November 17, 2011 - 03:55 am: Edit

Just got done reviewing the ISC Pacification scenario. It is truly a masterpiece of scenario design.

The level of detail down to the crippled ships, pacification cordons, and alternating play really shows that the ADB scenario design put a lot of effort to make this scenario one of the best written and organized to date.

Keep up the great work.

By James Lowry (Rindis) on Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - 12:18 pm: Edit

(625.597) Special Bases and Planet Dispositions: Klingons are listed as adding a STX to 1502. This is deep in Kzinti territory.... The Kzinti are *also* listed as adding a STX to 1502. Is this just a bad duplication, or should the Klingons have a STX added somewhere else? - James Lowry 12/14/2011

By James Lowry (Rindis) on Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 10:03 pm: Edit

(702.0) Third Fleet: (Y186 OoB) The crippled list includes "...HDW, 6xDW, 4xDW, 2xFF" Is there supposed to be 10 crippled DWs, or is one of those misdesignated, or is it an extra listing? (Perhaps 6xDD, 4xDW, given the order used elsewhere? Though that seems an excessive number of DDs.) -James Lowry 12/15/2011

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Friday, December 16, 2011 - 05:22 am: Edit

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(702.0) Third Fleet: (Y186 OoB) The crippled list includes "...HDW, 6xDW, 4xDW, 2xFF" Is there supposed to be 10 crippled DWs, or is one of those misdesignated, or is it an extra listing? (Perhaps 6xDD, 4xDW, given the order used elsewhere? Though that seems an excessive number of DDs.) -James Lowry 12/15/2011

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By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Saturday, December 17, 2011 - 02:01 pm: Edit

A clarification on (625.22).

In some cases, a given NZ cordon stops short of a given neutral zone's full length; for example, Cordon Bravo stopping as far coreward as hex 3908. Do the PEZs and CEZs surrounding the cordon lines extend into these unoccupied NZ hexes, or are they only on one side or another of a given cordon line?

(To stick with the eample of the cordon hex in 3908; does it impose a PEZ on hexes 3807, 3907 and 4007, and CEZs into hexes 3707, 3806, 3906, 4006 and 4107; or do the zones of enforcement only apply to the hexes perpendicular to the cordon line which hex 3908 is at the coreward terminus of, i.e. with PEZs in 3808 and 4008, and CEZs in 3708 and 4108, with no "rounding out" of the cordon areas?)

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Saturday, December 17, 2011 - 03:05 pm: Edit

Gary:

Hexes 3909/1906/1215 would be treated as PEZ hexes and hexes 3808/1905/1316 would be treated as CEZ hexes BY THE ISC in this scenario; the other empires treat these as traditional neutral zone hexes or Vudar territory as appropriate.

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Saturday, December 17, 2011 - 03:25 pm: Edit

Chuck:

Understood about the Cordon Foxtrot zones; but to clarify, have the listed areas for cordons Bravo and Delta been adjusted?

(Based on the numbers above, Cordon Bravo should stop in hex 3910, and Delta in hex 1907. However, my revision of the book has them continue on to 3908 and 1904; which would make hexes 3907 and 1903 PEZs, and 3906 and 2002 CEZs.)

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Saturday, December 17, 2011 - 07:17 pm: Edit

Gary:

The ISC neutral zone EASEMENT is one hex wide between former General War ENEMIES (Klingon/Lyran & Klingon/Vudar zones included); see (625.22). Their Pacification Charter for their neutral zone Pacification transit network didn't include 3808 or 3909; these are simply looked at by the ISC as CEZ and PEZ hexes respectively and as standard and by-in-largely un-enterable neutral zone hexes by the Gorns and Feds during this scenario.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Saturday, December 17, 2011 - 11:42 pm: Edit

James Lowry:

(625.597) TYPO: Special Bases and Planet Dispositions: Change Klingons STX listing from hex 1502 to 1514; see reference (625.D432). STRONG - 17 Dec 2011

By Randy Blair (Randyblair) on Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 10:52 am: Edit

SOP Reference - 11D: Empires offer bribes to Orions, see (504.33).
Change to 11D: Empires offer bribes to Orions, see (504.32). Randy Blair 18 DEC 2011

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 12:15 pm: Edit

(105.IW) Phase 11: 11D: Empires offer bribes to Orions, see (504.33). Reference to (504.33) should be (504.32). Incorrect reference to Orion Pirates and Bribes given. Thomas Mathews 18 Dec 2011

By James Lowry (Rindis) on Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 08:51 pm: Edit

(703.0) Southern Fleet: (Y186 OoB) The crippled carriers include "[CVT+2xF5E]". Is this a CVT, or CVT+? (Which would be.... '[CVT++2xF5E]'; I think we need a better nomenclature....) Curious because of the strong likelyhood of it getting picked up as a typo, and the fact that a non-improved CVT would seem improbable. -James Lowry 18 Dec 2011

As a general note, the carrier escorts seem a little blander than I was expecting. Notably, I'm not seeing any of the NCA-based heavy escorts, and I was expecting to see a couple. Of course, I don't have R10, so I don't know if they're all considered UNV.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Monday, December 19, 2011 - 01:55 pm: Edit

James:

Ref: NCA-based escorts in ISC War

Fed: NEA - Historically Unbuilt Variant
Klingon: ADW - While some were historically built it is possible that none survived (or even converted) during the General War (They are escorts after all)
Rom: FHM - Present on the OOB
Kzinti: NEC - Present on the OOB
Gorn: No Variant
Tholian: No Variant
Hydran: MKE - Historically Unbuilt Variant
Lyran: No Variant

By James Lowry (Rindis) on Monday, December 19, 2011 - 03:44 pm: Edit

Well, I've only gotten through the Feds and Klingons so far, so that explains that. (Well, I'm a little surprised by the lack of ADWs.)

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Monday, December 19, 2011 - 05:34 pm: Edit

James:

One word: Balance

The Kzinti has one and the Romulans have three (some are tied up with their civil war). The other Alliance members cannot or didn't produce a NCA escorts.

Hand-Wavium Rationale: A lot of heavy fighting occurred late in the war within Klingon space and it was far better to lose a heavy escort to save a space control ship.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Tuesday, December 20, 2011 - 08:47 pm: Edit

(703.0) Southern Fleet: (Y186 OoB): TYPO: The Klingon CVT listed is a CVT+. STRONG - 20 Dec 2011

(703.0) Home Fleet: (Y186 OoB): CHANGE: Replace the Klingon AD5 listed with the C8S to an ADW. Rationale: Correcting author oversight -- there should be one ADW that survived the General War. STRONG - 20 Dec 2011

By James Lowry (Rindis) on Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 01:11 am: Edit

(702.0) First (Home) Fleet: (Y186 OoB) The auxiliary listing includes the "LVH", which is not in a published module, nor appears in the Master SITs. (Aux F101 carrier?) -James Lowry 20 Dec 2011

(703.0) Home Fleet: (Y186 OoB) Auxiliary listing includes the "LAH", which is not listed in the Klingon MSIT. (Aux heavy fighter carrier?) Similarly, the "SAH" appears in the Northern and Southern Reserve fleets. -James Lowry 20 Dec 2011

(704.0) Third Star Legion: (Y186 OoB) The crippled carrier list includes a "SKV", this ship has not appeared in any product and is not in the Master SIT, nor is it listed as a 'future' ship, like several others in the OoB. I presume it is an advanced form of the SKB, but am not sure. -James Lowry 20 Dec 2011

(704.0) various: (Y186 OoB) There are several instances of the "SKR" appearing in the carrier sections of different fleets. I believe this is the FCR variant of the SK, which has not been published in a module yet, but is not noted as such. -James Lowry 20 Dec 2011

Also, is there a good source for the proposed statistics for these ships, and the ones that are marked 'future' in the OoB (F-DVA, R-SUU, R-VHK, T-NSCS)? I would like to provide them in an extension for the Vassal module.

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 06:41 am: Edit

James, see partial reply in your Vassal thread.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 02:49 pm: Edit

(702.0) Federation First (Home) Fleet: (Y186 OoB): CHANGE "LVH" to read "LAV {future LVH}". STRONG - 21 Dec 2011

(703.0) Klingon Home Fleet: (Y186 OoB): CHANGE "LAH" to read "LAV {future LAH}". STRONG - 21 Dec 2011

(703.0) Klingon Northern Reserve Fleet: (Y186 OoB): CHANGE "SAH" to read "SAV {future SAH}". STRONG - 21 Dec 2011

(703.0) Klingon Southern Reserve Fleet: (Y186 OoB): CHANGE "SAH" to read "SAV {future SAH}". STRONG - 21 Dec 2011

(703.0) Klingon General HQ: (Y186 OoB): DELETE: "Deployed in the capital." Rationale: Note is in error as GHQ forces are deployed where needed and as permitted by rule. STRONG - 21 Dec 2011

(704.0) Romulan OoB Y186: ADD: "Note: Historical Romulan FCRs listed on OoB as SKR and K4F will be available in future products; substitute a BHF in their place." STRONG - 21 Dec 2011

(704.0) Third Star Legion: (Y186 OoB) James Lowry's report a of a listing of a crippled "SKV" is in error as their is no SKV on the OOB. NOTE: Their is a crippled SPV listed on the OOB which is available in AO. No correction is required. STRONG - 21 Dec 2011

By James Lowry (Rindis) on Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 12:40 pm: Edit

...And I stared at that how long without realizing it was a SPV...? Yeesh.

(704.0) Fourth Star Legion: (Y186 OoB) Crippled list includes "2xKWR" and "KWS", which are not on the master Romulan SIT. (D5W conversions?) - James Lowry 12/22/2011

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 03:06 pm: Edit

(704.0) Fourth Star Legion: (Y186 OoB): CHANGE "2xKWR" to read "2xKDR {future 2xKWR}". CHANGE "KWS" to read "KDS {future KWS}". Rationale: The KWRs and KWS are historical conversions of the three KDRs from the Klingons (see SFB Module R10) and are currently without counters in F&E at this time. STRONG - 22 Dec 2011

By James Lowry (Rindis) on Saturday, December 24, 2011 - 04:12 pm: Edit

(706.0) General HQ: (Y186 OoB) The OoB gives the Gorn one REPR and 3xR-POD. However, the Gorns normally get two REPR, and receive three repair pods in addition to the normal one. Since there is currently no way to lose these in combat, I suggest this should be 2xREPR and 4xR-POD. -James Lowry 24 Dec 2011