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Gorn SIT File  1   01/11 08:27pm

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 08:06 pm: Edit

MEMO FOR RECORD

Level-1 triage completed for Gorn SIT Reports to this date and sent to ADB for processing.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 08:10 pm: Edit

The following Gorn SIT reports will be processed during Level-2 Triage (Base Reconciliation Project)

Please do not re-report these line items as they will be address later:

Gorn Bases: STB: BATS to STB is 12+0 Ryan J. Opel 18 Jul 08
Gorn Bases: SB: STB to SB is 18+6 Ryan J. Opel 18 Jul 08
Gorn Bases: SB: SFB Ref # is "R1.01" instead of "1" like most empires - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: SB: Build cost states "Upgrade Only" while all other races SB has "—NA—" - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: SB: Conversion cost from BATS is 28+Ftrs and STB 20+Ftrs, but all other SB costs is 30+6 and 18+6 respectively - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: SB: Adds text "Starbase. See EW Chart. Module Limits 4FTM+2PFM" - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: STX: BTX to STX is 18 (9xp+9ep) Ryan J. Opel 18 Jul 08
Gorn Bases: SBX: STX to SBX is 27+6 (13.5xp+13.5ep) +6ep Ryan J. Opel 18 Jul 08
Gorn Bases: SBX: SFB Ref # is "R1.01" instead of "1" like most races - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: SBX: Build cost states "Upgrade Only" while all other races SB has "—NA—" - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: SBX: Notes are "X-Starbase. See EW Chart. See (433.41), (441.0), and (510.3). 50% of conversion cost must be paid in XTPs. Module Limits 4FTM+2PFM." when most races just have "X-Unit; see EW Chart." - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: MB: Notes has "See (510.2); EW=1. Module Limits: 2 FTM or one FTM +1 PFM." when all other MB have just "See (510.2); EW=1" - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: BATS: SFB Ref # is "R1.2" but most other BATS are just "2" - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: BATS: Conversion cost states "From MB: 7+Ftrs From BS: 3+Ftrs (444.31)" and should state "From MB: 9+6 From BS: 4 (444.31)" like all other BATS - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: BATS: MB -> BATS cost listed as 7 + FTRS, should be 9 + FTRS to match all other empires. Mike Dowd, 05 June 2011
Gorn Bases: BATS: Build Cost or Substitution states "Upgrade Only", but all other BATS show "—NA—" - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: BATS: Note say "Battlestation”. See EW Chart. See (433.41), (441.0), and (510.3). Module Limits: 2 FTM or one FTM +1 PFM.", yet all other BATS just state "See (433.41), (441.0), and (510.3)" - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: BS: SFB Ref# is "R1.03", but all other BS are "R1.3" - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: BS: Conversion cost is "From MB: 4+Ftrs From MB (Alt): 6+Ftrs" but all other BS its "From MB: 5+6" - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: BS: Build Cost or Substitution states "Upgrade Only", but all other BATS show "—NA—" - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: BS: Note say "Base Station. See (444.0). Alternative upgrade at undevastated planet without tug (444.22). Module Limits: 2 FTM or one FTM +1 PFM." yet all other BS just state "See (444.0)." - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: BS: Notes state "Module Limits: 2FTM or one FTM + 1PFM". This suggests that this Gorn base only has 2 modules which is incorrect. Should read "Module Limits:2FTM + 1PFM". Eric Smith's message 1.1.09 refers to other matters. Graham Wardle 14.7.09. Gorn BATS: Notes state "Module Limits:2FTM or one FTM + 1PFM". This suggests that this Gorn base only has two modules which is incorrect. Should read "Module Limits:2FTM + 1PFM". Or, refer rule 441.4. Graham Wardle 14.7.09.
Gorn Bases: BSX: SFB Ref # is "R1.202B", but should be "202B" to be consistent. - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: BSX: Conversion cost is "From BS: 9+Ftrs From MB: 13+Ftrs" instead of "From BS: 12 From MB: 8+6" like other BSX's. - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: BSX: Build Cost or Substitution states "Upgrade Only", but all other BATS show "—NA—" - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: BSX: Notes say "X-Base Station. See (444.0). See EW Chart. 50% of conversion cost is paid with XTPs. Module Limits: 2 FTM or one FTM +1 PFM." but all other BSX just state "See (444.0)." - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: BSX: Notes state "Module Limits: 2FTM or one FTM + 1PFM. This suggests that this Gorn base only has two modules, which is incorrect. Should read "Module Limits: 2FTM + 1PFM". Or, refer rule 441.4. Graham Wardle 14.7.08.
Gorn Bases: BTX: SFB Ref# is "R1.202" and should be "202" for consistency - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: BTX: Build Cost or Substitution states "Upgrade Only", but all other BATS show "—NA—" - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: BTX: Notes state "X-Battle Station. See (444.0). See EW Chart. 50% of conversion cost is paid with XTPs. Module Limits: 2 FTM or one FTM +1 PFM." while all other BTX just state "X-unit; see EW Chart." - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: BTX: Conversion cost is from BS 12+Ftrs, from BTS 9+Ftrs, and from BSX 3+Ftrs, but this is unique among all the BTX costs for all other races - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: BTX: Notes state "Module Limits: 2FTM or one FTM + 1PFM". This suggests that this Gorn base only has two modules, which is incorrect. Should read "Module Limits:2FTM + 1PFM". Or refer to rule (441.4). Graham Wardle 14.7.09.
Gorn Bases: FTM (Fighter-Module): All other races just list this as "Ftr-Module" - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: FTM (Fighter-Module): Conversion cost is "—NA—" instead of "None" like other Ftr-Depots - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: FTM (Fighter-Module): Notes specify "Fighter module for base or FRD (441.411)." when all other FTM's just state "Fighter module for base or FRD" - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: PFM (Gunboat Module): All other races call this a "PF Module" - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: PFM (Gunboat Module): Conversion Cost is "—NA—" when it is "None" for all other races - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: PFM (Gunboat Module): Notes state "PF module for base (441.412)." when all other races just have "PF module for base or FRD." - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
Gorn Bases: PAM: Date available is Y182(B). Should be Spring Y178 (or Y178(A))as per rule (441.5). Graham Wardle 14.7.09.
Gorn Bases: STX: SFB Ref# is "R1.A11" when it should probably be just "A11" for consistency - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 08:28 pm: Edit

The following Gorn units will be assessed in SIT Level-3 Triage:

Gorn DND
Gorn DNM
Gorn CVX
Gorn DDW
Gorn HWX (HDWX)
Gorn HDSX
Gorn CLX
Gorn DLF

Note that some units needing data has already been processed and send to ADB prior this report:

Gorn BB-
Gorn BBV
Gorn SDS
Gorn DNE
Gorn HDM/MDH
Gorn PBF (BFF)

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, January 11, 2012 - 08:25 pm: Edit

REPORTS PROCESSED TODAY
Gorn Battleships: BB(-): ADD new line: Ref 17; Factors 20/10; Y175 (436.0); Size BB(2); Conv: From BB/V/S: 2; Build Special 36+6; Salv 9.000 (36 x 25%); Notes: Base Hull (BB) Battleship without fighters, Conjectural. STRONG – 8 Jan 2012 SVC: I think your 36+6 is wrong, and that’s the cost of the one with fighters.
Gorn Battleships: BB: Command rating is 9, should be 10 like other BBs. - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009 STRONG: Concurs with CR10. SVC agrees.
Gorn Battleships: BB: Factors 20(3)/10(1.5); Y175 (436.0); Size BB(2); Conv: From BB-: 0+6; Build Special 36+6; Salv 9.000 (36 x 25%); Notes: Base Hull (BB) Battleship, Conjectural. Single Ship Carrier. STRONG – 8 Jan 2012 SVC Other than the conversion from the new BB- all of this was already there.
Gorn Battleships: BBL: ADD new line: Ref A9; Factors 18F(3)/9(1.5); CL41; CR10; Y175 (436.0); Size BBL(2); Conv NA; Build Special 34+6; Salv 8.500 (34 x 25%); Notes: Fast Raiding Battleship Variant, Conjectural. STRONG – 8 Jan 2012 SVC Already there.
Gorn Battleships: BBS: Factors 20(6)P/10(3)P; Y175 (436.0); Size BB(2); Conv: From BB: 5+6; From BBV: 5; From BB- 5+12; Build Special 41+12+PFs; Salv 9.000 (36 x 25%); Notes: Battleship Stellar Domination Ship Variant, Conjectural. STRONG – 8 Jan 2012 SVC most of this date was already present. Date is wrong as PFs not available then.
Gorn Battleships: BBV: Factors 20(12)/10(6); Y175 (436.0); Size BB(2); Conv: From BB: 4+18; Build Special 38+24; Salv 9.000 (36 x 25%); Notes: Battleship Heavy Carrier Variant, Conjectural. STRONG – 8 Jan 2012 SVC data already present.
Gorn Dreadnoughts: ADD new category DREADNOUGHTS (SPECIAL CONVERSIONS). Move the DND, DNC, and DNM to this new category. STRONG – 8 Jan 2012 SVC thinks this is unnecessary window dressing.
Gorn Dreadnoughts: DNE: RECOMMEND factors 12-14/6-7; Schedule: 18; salv 4.500 STRONG – 8 Jan 2012 SVC Added.
Gorn Heavy Battlecruisers: BCH: Conversion cost from CL should have "(minor)" added since both sub-steps of the two-step conversion each cost 3 EPs or less (437.21). CL>BC>BCH=3+3-1=5 (minor). Jeff Coutu 19 January 09 STRONG: Concurs. SVC OK.
Gorn Heavy Battlecruisers: BCS: Change conversion "From CVS: (4?) (3?)" to "From CVS: 3". This conversion is part of the two-step conversion CV>CVS>BCS listed in (437.1). Since per the SIT CV>CVS>BCS=5 and CV>CVS=3, I derived CVS>BCS=3 [3+3-1=5]. Jeff Coutu 19 January 09 STRONG: Concurs. SVC ok.
Gorn Heavy Battlecruisers: BCS: Conversion cost from CV should have "(minor)" added since both sub-steps of the two-step conversion each cost 3 EPs or less (437.21). CV>CVS>BCS=3+3-1=5 (minor). The CVS to BCS conversion is listed on the SIT as "(4?) (3?)". I assumed a cost of 3 since the CV>CVS>BCS conversion cost on the SIT is 5 [3+3-1=5]. Jeff Coutu 19 January 09 STRONG: Concurs. SVC ok.
Gorn Heavy Battlecruisers: BCV: Conversion cost from BC should have "(minor)" added since both sub-steps of the two-step conversion each cost 3 EPs or less (437.21). BC>BCH>BCV=3+[2+12]-1=4+12 (minor). Jeff Coutu 19 January 09 STRONG: Concurs. Ok. SVC ok.
Gorn Heavy Battlecruisers: BCV: Conversion cost from CV should have "(minor)" added since both sub-steps of the two-step conversion each cost 3 EPs or less (437.21). CV>CVS>BCV=3+3-1=5 (minor). Jeff Coutu 19 January 09 STRONG: Concurs. SVC ok.
Gorn Battlecruisers: BF: Conversion cost from CL should have "(minor)" added since both sub-steps of the two-step conversion each cost 3 EPs or less (437.21). CL>BC>BF=3+3-1=5 (minor). Jeff Coutu 19 January 09 STRONG: Concurs.
Gorn Battlecruisers: CCH: Conversion cost from CL should have "(minor)" added since both sub-steps of the two-step conversion each cost 3 EPs or less (437.21). CL>BC>CCH=3+2-1=4 (minor). Jeff Coutu 19 January 09 STRONG: Concurs. SVC OK.
Gorn Battlecruisers: CV(3CV): This carrier group should be in the Gorn LIGHT CRUISERS section and not in the Gorn BATTLECRUISERS section. No component of this group is based on the Gorn BC hull, but the two major components are based on the Gorn CL hull. That is the Gorn CV and CLE. Graham Wardle 14.7.09. STRONG: CONCURS. SVC Moved.
Gorn Battlecruisers: CVS: Conversion cost from CL should have "(minor)" added since both sub-steps of the two-step conversion each cost 3 EPs or less (437.21). CL>BC>CVS=3+[2+12]-1=4+12 (minor). Jeff Coutu 19 January 09 STRONG: Concurs. SVC done.
Gorn Battle Destroyers: BDP: Conversion cost from SC should have "(minor)" added since both sub-steps of the two-step conversion each cost 3 EPs or less (437.21). SC>BDS>BDP=3+3-1=5 (minor). Jeff Coutu 19 January 09 STRONG: Concurs. SVC done.
Gorn Battle Destroyers: BDSX: ADD conversion From BD: 8 STRONG – 8 Jan 2012 SVC ok, wondered if this was a double conversion.
Gorn Battle Destroyers: BDSX: DD>BDX>BDSX=[6‡]+3-1=8 [currently SIT cost is 7]. Two-step conversions should get a 1 EP discount (437.2). This two-step conversion includes another two-step conversion (DD>BDX) so maybe it should not get another 1 EP discount and should cost 9? Jeff Coutu 19 January 09 STRONG: Concurs; the conversion from DD should cost 9; [DD>BD(2)>BDX(5) -1 Discount] then BDX>BDSX(3). SVC agrees with 9.
Gorn Battle Destroyers: BDSX: SC>BDS>BDSX=3+5-1=7 [currently SIT cost is 6]. Two-step conversions should get a 1 EP discount (437.2). Jeff Coutu 19 January 09 STRONG: Concurs; conversion should cost 7. SVC ok.
Gorn Gunboat Flotillas: CPF: Conversion cost listed as "—NA—" instead of "None" like other CPF's. - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009 STRONG: Whatever. SVC whatever.
Gorn Gunboat Flotillas: CPX: Conversion cost listed as "—NA—" instead of "None" like other CPX's. - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009 STRONG: Whatever. SVC whatever.
Gorn Heavy Destroyers: HDM or MDH: Suggest deleting one of these as they are the same ship scheduled for NO product release. Note the line item for MDH has stats listed and may have appeared with other conjectural maulers in CLog. - L. Bergen 4 April 2010 STRONG: DELETE entire HDM line near top; CHANGE MDH designation to now read "HDM". SVC ok.
Gorn Large Auxiliaries: ASC: SFB Ref# is "R1.31" but all other ASC's its just "31" - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009 STRONG: NO CHANGE RECOMMENDED. However, for professional consistency (yes – I can hear Jean on the other line…) we should use R1.XX whenever we reference any unit listed in the SFB General R-sections (R1.0); stand-alone numbers should only reference the empire’s own R-section. SVC thinks all R1 numbers should have R1.
Gorn Large Auxiliaries: FTL: SFB Ref # is "R1.19" while other FTL's are just "19" - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009 STRONG: NO CHANGE RECOMMENDED. However, for professional consistency (yes – I can hear Jean on the other line…) we should use R1.XX whenever we reference any unit listed in the SFB General R-sections (R1.0); stand-alone numbers should only reference the empire’s own R-section. SVC thinks all R1 numbers should have R1.
Gorn Large Auxiliaries: LAP: SFB Ref # has "R1.27 B" instead of just "27B" like most other LAP's - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009 STRONG: NO CHANGE RECOMMENDED. However, for professional consistency (yes – I can hear Jean on the other line…) we should use R1.XX whenever we reference any unit listed in the SFB General R-sections (R1.0); stand-alone numbers should only reference the empire’s own R-section. SVC thinks all R1 numbers should have R1.
Gorn Large Auxiliaries: LAV: SFB Ref # has "R1.13 B" instead of just "13B" like most other LAV's - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009 STRONG: NO CHANGE RECOMMENDED. However, for professional consistency (yes – I can hear Jean on the other line…) we should use R1.XX whenever we reference any unit listed in the SFB General R-sections (R1.0); stand-alone numbers should only reference the empire’s own R-section. SVC thinks all R1 numbers should have R1.
Gorn Medium Cruisers: CMF: HD>CM>CMF=3+2-1=4 (minor) [currently SIT cost is 5 (minor)]. Two-step conversions should get a 1 EP discount (437.2). Jeff Coutu 19 January 09 STRONG: Concurs. SVC Ok.
Gorn Medium Cruisers: CMV: Conversion cost from HD should have "(minor)" added since both sub-steps of the two-step conversion each cost 3 EPs or less (437.21). HD>CM>CMV=3+[2+12]-1=4+12 (minor). Jeff Coutu 19 January 09 STRONG: Concurs. SVC ok.
Gorn Medium Cruisers: MCC: Conversion cost from HD should have "(minor)" added since both sub-steps of the two-step conversion each cost 3 EPs or less (437.21). HD>CM>MCC=3+1=4 (minor); [no -1 discount per SIT ruling posted on 26 Jan 08]. Jeff Coutu 19 January 09 STRONG: Concurs. SVC non-concur. The entry is specifically marked "unusual conversion cost confirmed" (which is presumably thee as the result of a full-court staff review) and I’m going to need a lot more than this to change it.
Gorn Medium Cruisers: MSR: Conversion cost from HDS should have "(minor)" added since both sub-steps of the two-step conversion each cost 3 EPs or less (437.21). This is basically the same as a HD>CM>MSR=3+5=7 conversion but with a 2 EP deduction on the CM>MSR for starting as a HDS which makes it minor conversion costing 5. Jeff Coutu 19 January 09 STRONG: Concurs – minor conversion. SVC Ok, but makes note that we need to declare a symbol for minor conversion before doing any more empires, which is why I should not have been sent the next empire until this one was finished.
Gorn Medium Cruisers: MSRV: Conversion cost from HDS should have "(minor)" added since both sub-steps of the two-step conversion each cost 3 EPs or less (437.21). This is basically the same as a HD>CM>MSRV=3+[5+4]-1=7+4 conversion but with a 2 EP deduction on the CM>MSRV for starting as a HDS which makes it minor conversion costing 5+4. Jeff Coutu 19 January 09 STRONG: Concurs. Added new symbol (triangle, point down) for this.
Gorn Mobile Support Units: APT: SFB Ref# is "R1.8", all other APTs just "8" - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009 STRONG: NO CHANGE RECOMMENDED. However, for professional consistency (yes – I can hear Jean on the other line…) we should use R1.XX whenever we reference any unit listed in the SFB General R-sections (R1.0); stand-alone numbers should only reference the empire’s own R-section. SVC concurs that anything from R1 should be marked R1.
Gorn Mobile Support Units: OPB: Notes have additional text "Module Limits two FTM or one FTM+1 PFM ." but no other races have this. - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009 STRONG: NO CHANGE RECOMMENDED. However when we do any bases we should include the module limitations in the notes section. SVC Whatever.
Gorn Mobile Support Units: Prime Teams: Listed under "MOBILE SUPPORT UNITS" when most races have these under "MARKERS AND SPECIAL UNITS" - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009 STRONG: RECOMMENDATION - move Prime Team listing to "MARKERS AND SPECIAL UNITS". SVC: done, however, all future reports including the word "race" will be rejected as not understood.
Gorn Mobile Support Units: SAF: SFB Ref # is "R1.33" instead of "33" like other empires. - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009 STRONG: NO CHANGE RECOMMENDED. However, for professional consistency (yes – I can hear Jean on the other line…) we should use R1.XX whenever we reference any unit listed in the SFB General R-sections (R1.0); stand-alone numbers should only reference the empire’s own R-section. SVC changed to R1.33
Gorn Monitors & Pallets: MON: SFB Ref # has "R1.22" when most others just have "22" - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009, STRONG: NO CHANGE RECOMMENDED. However, for professional consistency (yes – I can hear Jean on the other line…) we should use R1.XX whenever we reference any unit listed in the SFB General R-sections (R1.0); stand-alone numbers should only reference the empire’s own R-section. R1.22 is correct.
Gorn Monitors & Pallets: MPAL (SCS): SFB Ref # is "R1.22 E" when most other races have it as "22E" - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009 STRONG: NO CHANGE RECOMMENDED. However, for professional consistency (yes – I can hear Jean on the other line…) we should use R1.XX whenever we reference any unit listed in the SFB General R-sections (R1.0); stand-alone numbers should only reference the empire’s own R-section. SVC R1.22E is correct.
Gorn Monitors & Pallets: MPAL(CV): SFB Ref # is "R1.22 E" when most other races have it as just "22E" - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009 STRONG: NO CHANGE RECOMMENDED. However, for professional consistency (yes – I can hear Jean on the other line…) we should use R1.XX whenever we reference any unit listed in the SFB General R-sections (R1.0); stand-alone numbers should only reference the empire’s own R-section. SVC R1.22E is correct.
Gorn Monitors & Pallets: MPAL(PFT): All other races call these "MPAL (PF)" - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009 STRONG: Recommend using MPAL (PF). SVC report includes the word RACE which I do not understand. No action taken.
Gorn Monitors & Pallets: MPAL(PFT): Conversion cost is "None" instead of "—NA—" like all other races MPAL (PF)'s - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009 STRONG: Whatever. SVC report rejected due to unknown term RACE.
Gorn Monitors & Pallets: MPAL(PFT): Salvage is 0 when all other races MPAL(PF)'s its 0.75 - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009 STRONG: RECOMMEND salvage at 0.750. SVC Like I care?
Gorn Planetary Units: C-BASE: Build Cost or Substitution listed as "NA" instead of "—NA—" - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009 STRONG: Whatever. SVC done.
Gorn Planetary Units: Colony: Cost stated (446.13) 2+2+2 should read (446.13) 1+1+1 Cost changed in Captain's Log 37 Thomas Mathews 26 Aug 2009 STRONG: Concurs. SVC done.
Gorn Planetary Units: PDU: SFB Ref # is "R1.14" when all other races it as just "14" - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009 STRONG: NO CHANGE RECOMMENDED. However, for professional consistency (yes – I can hear Jean on the other line…) we should use R1.XX whenever we reference any unit listed in the SFB General R-sections (R1.0); stand-alone numbers should only reference the empire’s own R-section. SVC R1.14 is correct.
Gorn Planetary Units: PGB: SFB Ref # is "R1.14" when all other races it as just "14" - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009 STRONG: NO CHANGE RECOMMENDED. However, for professional consistency (yes – I can hear Jean on the other line…) we should use R1.XX whenever we reference any unit listed in the SFB General R-sections (R1.0); stand-alone numbers should only reference the empire’s own R-section. SVC R1.14 is correct.
Gorn Police Frigates: ADD new line: Designation: PBF (BFF); ref 83; factors 4-5/None; product NO?; CR3; Y167; hull POL(4); Conv From POL: 1; build For POL: 3; Salv 0.000; Notes: Police Battle Frigate. STRONG – 8 Jan 2012 SVC added, good addition. But should it be FF(4) instead of POL(4)?
Gorn Police Frigates: CHANGE Category Title to "POLICE SHIPS" as Gorn Police units are based on frigate (POL/PV) and destroyer hulls (FLG). STRONG – 8 Jan 2012 SVC ok, sure, whatever.
Gorn Police Frigates: FLG: CHANGE "From FF: 3" to "From POL: 3". ADD From DD: 2 (the FLG is built on a DD hull not a FF hull). STRONG – 8 Jan 2012 SVC if it is built on a DD hull it should not have FROM POL at all.
Gorn Police Frigates: POL: No Build Cost - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009 STRONG: CHANGE designation to read POL (FF). ADD build For: DD/BD: 2.5 (4 point frigates cost 2.5 to build not 3 EP) SVC somebody built one on purpose?
Gorn Police Frigates: PV: CHANGE: Designation to read PV (FFV); size POL(4); "From FF" to "From POL"; "For FF/DD: 4+6" to "For DD/BD: 3.5+6". (4 point frigates cost 2.5 plus 1 EP for carrier conversion.) STRONG – 8 Jan 2012 SVC I think I got all of that.
Gorn Police Frigates: PV: No Call Up cost like the police ships. - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009 STRONG: ADD "Call up: 3"; per (531.41). Ok, I think.
Gorn Repair Docks: FRD: SFB Ref# is "R1.10" when it should be just "10" like other empires FRD's. - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009 STRONG: NO CHANGE RECOMMENDED. However, for professional consistency (yes – I can hear Jean on the other line…) we should use R1.XX whenever we reference any unit listed in the SFB General R-sections (R1.0); stand-alone numbers should only reference the empire’s own R-section. SVC R1.10 is correct.
Gorn Repair Docks: FRD+: SFB Ref# is "R1.10" when it should be just "10" like other empires FRD's. - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009 STRONG: NO CHANGE RECOMMENDED. However, for professional consistency (yes – I can hear Jean on the other line…) we should use R1.XX whenever we reference any unit listed in the SFB General R-sections (R1.0); stand-alone numbers should only reference the empire’s own R-section. SVC R1.10 is correct.
Gorn Small Auxiliaries: SAP: SFB Ref # is "R1.27 A" instead of "27A" like other empires - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009 STRONG: NO CHANGE RECOMMENDED. However, for professional consistency (yes – I can hear Jean on the other line…) we should use R1.XX whenever we reference any unit listed in the SFB General R-sections (R1.0); stand-alone numbers should only reference the empire’s own R-section. SVC In future I need a simple note to change that whole section to R1.
Gorn Small Auxiliaries: SAV: SFB Ref # is "R1.13 A" instead of "13A" like other empires - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009 STRONG: NO CHANGE RECOMMENDED. However, for professional consistency (yes – I can hear Jean on the other line…) we should use R1.XX whenever we reference any unit listed in the SFB General R-sections (R1.0); stand-alone numbers should only reference the empire’s own R-section. SVC This is getting repetitive and tedious, and I am being overcome by ennui.
Gorn Tugs and Pods: REP POD: Conversion cost as "NA" instead of "—NA—" like other empires - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009 STRONG: Okay….so Eric has a lot of time on his hands… SVC Confused as it already says —NA—.

By Andrew Bruno (Admeeral) on Thursday, February 02, 2012 - 12:49 pm: Edit

Gorn battle Destroyers: BFR: 'Conversion' & 'Build' costs conflict with 'Factors On Counter'. Confirm [6] or [8] fighters and make cost to match. This ship has not yet been released in an ADB product to my knowledge. Rom SKR cost issue is similar and may be related. Andrew Bruno, 2 Feb 2012

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 09:31 pm: Edit

Gornn: Gunboat Flotillas: CPF: Cost (524.112) 3 The cost listed under (524.112) specifically states that a causual PF group costs 3 EPs. Thomas Mathews 12 Dec 2012

Gorn: Gunboat Flotillas: CPX: Cost (524.112) 3 The cost listed under (524.112) specifically states that a causual PF group costs 3 EPs. Thomas Mathews 12 Dec 2012

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Tuesday, January 01, 2013 - 10:59 am: Edit

Gorn: Heavy Destroyers: HSV: YIS: Y179 (530.223) states that the Gorns recieve their heavy fighters on turn 22, Spring of Y179. There would not be any early prototypes for Heavy Fighter Carriers. Thomas Mathews 1 Jan 2013

By Eric Smith (Badsyntax) on Monday, January 07, 2013 - 12:08 am: Edit

Gorn BCS: Crippled fighters should be 1t (t=triangle) as its uncrippled is 3. Eric Smith 6 JAN 2013

By Eric Smith (Badsyntax) on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 01:14 pm: Edit

I know a lot of these are kinda the same information, I'm just trying to help the look and feel be more consistent between the various SITs.

Gorn ASC: Recommend removing note (526.46) from notes column, it is already in the substitution column - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.

Gorn BATS: Conversion from MB cost "7+Ftrs", instead of "9+6" like all other BATS. BS cost "3+Ftrs" instead of "4" like all other BATS. Add "From OPB: 11+6+PFs" to conversion costs. Change notes column to "Battlestation. See EW Chart. See (433.41), (441.0), and (510.3). Module Limits: 2FTM or 1FTM + 1PFM." - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.

Gorn BS: Change conversion cost to "From MB: 5+6". Change notes to "Base Station. See (444.0). Alternative upgrade at undevastated planet without tug (444.22). Module Limits: 2FTM or 1FTM + 1PFM. See EW Chart" - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.

Gorn BSX: Change conversion cost to "From BS: 12, From MB: 8+6" to match other races. Change notes to "X-Base Station. See (444.0). See EW Chart. 50% of conversion cost is paid in XTPs. Module Limits: 2FTM or 1FTM + 1PFM." - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.

Gorn BTX: Change conversion cost to "From BATS: 18, From MB: 27+6, From BS: 22, From BSX: 6+6XTP" to match other races. Change notes to "X-Battlestation; see EW Chart. 50% of conversion cost is paid in XTPs., Module Limits: 2FTM + 1PFM." - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.

Gorn FRD+: Change notes to "See (441.433) With fighter modules; (421.0) without." - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.

Gorn FTL: Change build cost to "(521.23): 6 (1/yr)". - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.

Gorn FTM (Fighter- Module): Change designation to "FTM (Ftr-Module)" to make more sense. Change conversion cost to "None" to match the other races. - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.

Gorn Ftr-Depot: Change conversion cost to "None" to match the other races. - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.

Gorn LAP: Change conversion cost to "From LAS: 3" to match ISC War. - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.

Gorn MB: Change notes column to "Mobile Base. See (510.2); EW=1, Module Limits: 2FTM or 1FTM+1PFM." - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.

Gorn MON: Change conversion cost to "None" to match all other races. - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.

Gorn MPAL (CV): Change conversion cost to "None" to match other races. - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.

Gorn MPAL (PFT): Change designation to "MPAL (PF)" to match other races. Change conversion cost to "None" to match other races and pallets. - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.

Gorn MPAL (SCS): Change conversion cost to "None" to match other races and pallets. - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.

Gorn OPB: Change notes to "Operational Base, moves as military convoy. (2 EW:5 AF), (1 EW:10 AF). Module Limits 2FTM or 1FTM + 1PFM ." for consistency. - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.

Gorn PAM (Power Augmentation Module): Change designation to "PAM (Power Augmentation Module)" for consistency. Change conversion cost to "None" to match other races. - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.

Gorn PFM (Gunboat Module): Change designation to "PFM (PF Module)" for consistency. Change conversion cost to "None" to match other races. Change build cost to "(441.412): 2+PFs" for consistency. Change notes to "PF module for base or FRD." - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.

Gorn REPR: Change notes to "Repair ship; See (422.0)". - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.

Gorn SB: Change conversion cost to "From BATS: 30+6, From STB: 18+6". - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.

Gorn SBX: Change conversion cost to "From SB: 24, From STX: 18+6, From BTX: 45+6, From STB: 44+6". - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.

Gorn STB: Change conversion cost to "From BATS: 12, From BS: 15". Change notes to "Sector Base. See EW Chart. Module, Limits: 2FTM + 1PFM.". - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.

Gorn STX: Change conversion cost to "From STB: 10+10X, From BTX: 9+9X, From BSX: 12+12X, From BTS: 21+21X". - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.

I also know the base costs are still being worked on, so my recommendations were just to match other races until all the bases get updated.

By Tim Losberg (Krager) on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 12:39 pm: Edit

Not sure if this is already reported (it did not stand out in the above reports)..
All SIT's except the Gorns list ships by hull type then YIS.. Gorns do not which make searching for what is available awkward.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 02:23 pm: Edit

SVC:

Would you have a moment please to sort and repost the Gorn SITs by YIS as the "by hull type" is already complete.

Thank you,
Chuck

By Stewart Frazier (Frazikar2) on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 06:51 pm: Edit

Chuck, SVC - 'by hull type' is done, it's the secondary sort ('by YIS') that's to be done...

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 06:32 pm: Edit

Gorn: Medium Cruisers: MCC: Cost: None should read Cost: 9 Other empires can build command versions of their NCAs. The unusual conversion cost should carry over here making them 9 instead of 8+2 where a Fed NCC would be 6+2 in cost. Thomas Mathews 19 Oct 2013

By Jason E. Schaff (Jschaff297061) on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 10:47 am: Edit

Gorn CMF: Available date should be Y173 (not Y175). Rationale: The SFB Master Ship Chart YIS is 173. - Jason E. Schaff 01/12/2014

Gorn DDT: Available date should be Y129 (not Y175). Rationale: The SFB Master Ship Chart YIS is 129. - Jason E. Schaff 01/12/2014

By Ryan Opel (Ryan) on Thursday, May 15, 2014 - 04:48 pm: Edit

Gorn LAV: Available date can not be earlier than Y169S with is Fighter Introduction date for the Gorns. Ryan J Opel 15 May 14

Gorn SAV: Available date should be same as LAV i.e no earlier than Y169S. Ryan J Opel 15 May 14


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