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|By Marc Michalik (Kavik_Kang) on Monday, April 14, 2014 - 11:12 pm: Edit|
"Old SFB players never die, they just take up F&E." -- Kavik Kang
Hello everyone, especially Scott M and the two Steves. I have been wanting to play F&E since it first came out in 1986 but never knew anyone who would want to attempt such a thing. With this Cyberboard thing I've become pretty obssessed with F&E for the last few months, and finally got a copy of 10K a few weeks ago.
I've downloaded Cyberboard and the scenario files from this board, but they are all setup to use all the expansions. Is there a file for a basic F&E setup? I'd like to solo play the first 2 or 3 turns of invading the Kzinti to learn the game and how to use Cyberboard before trying a real game with someone.
|By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 02:49 am: Edit|
Marc, at present there is no 'vanilla' set up for the wind scenario in the CB. However, I think we set it up that you can, without spending too much time, drop the Lyran, Kzinti and Klingon ships (in just the fleets you would need) into an alternate tray or off to the side of the map. If you want to use the hulls (I think some just convert back to basic hulls) you will have to swap them out. There are players on this BBS who prefer the basic game and may already have a file to pass along. Peter B comes to mind.
|By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 03:38 am: Edit|
Peter Bakija is MAC only and cannot use Cyberboard, alas.
|By Marc Michalik (Kavik_Kang) on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 07:30 pm: Edit|
I had that thought, that I could remove all the stuff that doesn't belong. That seems like it would take a while, though. If anyone has a Basic F&E start position saved for CB I would love to have it. Setting up myself having barely looked at CB so far seems like it would be a lot of work.
|By Marc Michalik (Kavik_Kang) on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 01:43 am: Edit|
Thanks Lar, once I looked at CB a little longer I realized how easy it is just to throw the counters that aren't needed down onto the corner of the map. It only took about 30 minutes to do the Lyran, Kzinti, and Klingons which is all I need to teach myself the game and CB.
|By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 08:59 am: Edit|
Cool. Good luck. It is a great game. Don't be afraid to reach out to one of these guys here. Most are excellent at teaching a new player. The biggest thing to remember is to keep expectations low on how large of a game to play.
For instance: The entire General War to completion is a rare occurrence mainly because of the Real life time and commitment of two (or more players) it takes to get to the end.
Pick 'something small' or play 'a portion of something' with the intent of it being a learning experience. Play that same segment again with a different goal for learning to test the game. Loads of fun. Oh and go pick up some of the discounted counters for FO while you can you will need them in the future. 3-5 sets should do nicely and it gets us closer to having that updated set of rules everyone wants.
|By Mike Curtis (Fear) on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 11:09 am: Edit|
The wind scenario should have the ships with "*" next to them in the trays with notes attached to show there is something different with them in non vanilla. Just hover over them to see the notes attached to them. The products are coded by name and other special things are noted.
That should help.
|By Marc Michalik (Kavik_Kang) on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 03:15 pm: Edit|
Yes, I figured that out Mike. It was designed to be easy to remove what is not needed for basic. All the stuff that needs to be removed is at the end of each list, too. I did notice I needed to add an FRD or MB to some capitals to match the basic setup.
That is exactly my plan, Lar. I used to live SFB and was even on the staff briefly in the early 1990's. I guess you could say I was "the spark that ignited organized SFB in Colorado", although it was the players themselves who actually created the extensive SFU community we have here today. I have followed F&E since it came out, always wanted to play it but never had an opponent. I'm going to teach myself basic F&E buy going to turn C3 in my first solo game, then 2 turns into attacking the Feds in a second. Then I'll be ready to try a real game against someone or if FO is out by then I can get all the expansions and learn the rest of the game.
|By Mike Curtis (Fear) on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 04:08 pm: Edit|
If you go to the capital charts I think you will find those items there. It has been a while since I built the scenario, but that is where I think I added them.
|By Marc Michalik (Kavik_Kang) on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 04:17 pm: Edit|
There is a Hydran capital chart on the bottom status bar, but I can't find a way to see anyone elses.
I went through and setup all the empires for basic, but all the counters are just down in the map corner. How can I create a tray to put them in to get them off the map. If you tell me how to find the other capital charts and create a tray I will do those, too, and then I can send it too you if you want a file with a basic setup already done to add to the downloads.
|By Mike Curtis (Fear) on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 04:40 pm: Edit|
The capital charts are on the Game Project tab in the lower left and double click on one of the capital defense charts. That will have a lot of the missing units you are looking for.
|By Marc Michalik (Kavik_Kang) on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 04:53 pm: Edit|
Yes, I see the other ones now... and lots of other useful stuff:-) Thanks.
If you want a basic setup to put up for download I can send you a copy of this file when I am done with it. I am checking everything against the basic OOB after I remove the expansion stuff all the races just to have it for myself.
|By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Thursday, April 17, 2014 - 12:41 am: Edit|
That is possible. Send it if you like I will file it with some of the others that are in progress for the scenario folder #2.
|By Pete DiMitri (Petercool) on Friday, April 25, 2014 - 05:38 pm: Edit|
I captured a ship in my game, and I'm looking at the captured ship markers you created.
Do you just use one and enter a text on it, or is there some other functionality to it that I am not aware of?
|By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Saturday, April 26, 2014 - 04:06 am: Edit|
No functionality. Simply add the text as you say and with Tooltips on it should give you a pop-up tooltip showing the data when you hover. You could use the actual counter and do the same thing. Your choice really, but I made the captured ships for this alternate choice clearing up who's ship is who's at-a-glance.
|By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Wednesday, July 23, 2014 - 08:53 am: Edit|
SVC: Email sent last night.
|By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Saturday, August 16, 2014 - 10:49 am: Edit|
Can you move Pete D question from 4/25/14 and my response from 4/26/2014 to the F&E Cyberboard Tips and Tricks and Hints thread please so it is preserved?
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