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By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Monday, February 13, 2012 - 06:13 pm: Edit |
Tholian Heavy Cruisers: CC: Add to conversions "From 2xPC‡: 5". 2xPC>CA>CC=4+2-1=5. This two-step conversion is listed in (437.1) but is not on the SIT. Jeff Coutu 19 January 09 ## STRONG: CONCURS. @@ SVC: sure.
Tholian Heavy Cruisers: CVA: 2xPC>CA>CVA=4+[3+24]-1=6+24‡ [currently SIT cost is 7+24]. The SIT does not list this as a two-step conversion but it is listed as one in (437.1). Two-step conversions should get a 1 EP discount (437.2). Jeff Coutu 19 January 09 ## STRONG: CONCURS. @@ SVC: yeah, ok.
Tholian Heavy Cruisers: CVH: Add to conversions "From 2xPC‡: 5+28". 2xPC>CA>CVH=4+[2+28]-1=5+28. This two-step conversion is listed in (437.1) but is not on the SIT. Jeff Coutu 19 January 09 ## STRONG: CONCURS. @@ SVC: Ok, but is there a reason for the inconsistent placement of ‡?
Tholian War Cruisers: CWE: Add to conversions "From 2xPC‡: 3". 2xPC>CW>CWE=3+1-1=3. This two-step conversion is listed in (437.1) but is not on the SIT. Jeff Coutu 19 January 09 ## STRONG: This should be listed as a two-step minor (add delta symbol) conversion but the cost must remain at 4 EP because one step costs only a point. @@ SVC: From 2xPC‡: 4 minor.
Tholian War Cruisers: CWS: Add to conversions "From 2xPC‡: 5 (minor)". 2xPC>CW>CWS=3+3-1=5 (minor). This two-step conversion is listed in (437.1) but is not on the SIT. Jeff Coutu 19 January 09 STRONG: CONCURS; add minor conversion delta symbol. @@ SVC: This one needs another look. PC+SC is 5, so I’m really doubting that 2PC is the same price.
Tholian War Cruisers: LTT: Add to conversions "From 2xPC‡: 5 (minor)". 2xPC>CW>LTT=3+3-1=5 (minor). This two-step conversion is listed in (437.1) but is not on the SIT. Jeff Coutu 19 January 09 ## STRONG: CONCURS; add minor conversion delta symbol. @@ SVC: ok.
Tholian War Cruisers: CSV: Add to conversions "From 2xPC‡: 7+16". 2xPC>CW>CSV=3+[5+16]-1=7+16. This two-step conversion is listed in (437.1) but is not on the SIT. Jeff Coutu 19 January 09 ## STRONG: CONCURS. @@ SVC: done,b ut also noted that this service date is wrong, being pegged to the heavy fighter date and not to the date that the CWV was available.
Tholian War Cruisers: PFW: Add to conversions "From 2xPC‡: 7". 2xPC>CW>PFW=3+5-1=7. This two-step conversion is listed in (437.1) but is not on the SIT. Jeff Coutu 19 January 09 ## STRONG: CONCURS. @@ SVC: done.
Tholian War Cruisers: CWV: Add to conversions "From 2xPC‡: 4+12 (minor)". 2xPC>CW>CWV=3+[2+12]-1=4+12 (minor). This two-step conversion is listed in (437.1) but is not on the SIT. Jeff Coutu 19 January 09 ## STRONG: CONCURS; add minor conversion delta symbol. @@ SVC: added.
Tholian Destroyers: DDS: Conversion cost from PC should have "(minor)" added since both sub-steps of the two-step conversion each cost 3 EPs or less (437.21). PC>DD>DDS=3+2-1=4 (minor). Jeff Coutu 19 January 09 ## STRONG: CONCURS; add minor conversion delta symbol. @@ SVC: added.
Tholian Destroyers: DDE: Add to conversions "From PC‡: 3". PC>DD>DDE=3+1-1=3. This two-step conversion is listed in (437.1) but is not on the SIT. Jeff Coutu 19 January 09 ## STRONG: This should be listed as a two-step minor (add delta symbol) conversion but the cost must remain at 4 EP because one step costs only a point. @@ SVC: done.
Tholian Destroyers: SCX: RECOMMENDATION: Add conversion From DDS: 5. Rationale: DD to DDX cost 4 EP; DDS EW2>SCX EW3 adds 1 EP. STRONG 6 Feb 2011 @@ SVC: on second look, ok.
Tholian Destroyers: SCX: PC>DDX>SCX=[6‡]+3-1=8 [currently SIT cost is 7]. Two-step conversions should get a 1 EP discount (437.2). This two-step conversion includes another two-step conversion (PC>DDX) so maybe it should not get another 1 EP discount and should cost 9? Jeff Coutu 19 January 09 ## STRONG: NON-CONCURS. This is in fact a "three-step" conversion PC>DD>DDX>SCX. RECOMMENDATION: REMOVE PC>SCX conversion. @@ SVC: No change made.
Tholian Destroyers: SCX: SC>SCX=7‡ [currently SIT cost is 6‡]. PC>DDX>SCX=[6‡]+3-1=8; reduced by 1 EP for starting as an SC (since PC>SC=1) =7. Note that the SIT currently lists the PC>DDX>SCX as costing 7; if that price is not changed then SC>SCX also should not be changed. Jeff Coutu 19 January 09 ## STRONG: NON-CONCUR. The proper two-step conversion path is: SC>DDS>SCX (The SCX is a variant of the DDX not the PC scout). RECOMMENDATION: Add >From SC: 6‡ (cost path: SC+3>DDS+4>SCX-1=6). @@ SVC: From SC=6 is already there.
Neo-Tholian DREADNOUGHTS NSCS: One NDN (TDFS Vortex) was converted to an SCS in Y186 per G2 and R7.65; also see R7.66. No F&E counter exists but one will be needed. Suggested compot 12-14WP(6)/6-7WP(3). Will substitute a # counter for use in ISC War. STRONG 4 May 2009 ## STRONG: Realizes this is adding a counter in a Phase-I SIT report but notes that this is a single add to a overall small Tholian report. @@ SVC: I added it but the counter will be in some far future product, probably androwar.
Tholian Mobile Support Units: APT: Under notes it says "Use Generics", but to be more clear it should say something like "No Tholian counter, use generic counters" - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009 ## STRONG: NON-CONCUR; current note seems sufficient. @@ SVC: Oh, I added it.
Tholian Bases: Ftr-Depot See (443.0). Tholian Ftr-Depot See (445.0) Rule number change from (443.0) to (445.0). Also "(443.1): 6" should read "(445.1): 6". Thomas Mathews 6 Feb 12 ## STRONG: CONCURS. @@ SVC: done.
NOTE; Minor conversion triangle added to blue footer after PDF generated.
By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Monday, April 13, 2015 - 05:10 pm: Edit |
THINGS DONE
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Tholian: Gunboat Flotillas: CPF: Cost (524.112) 3 The cost listed under (524.112) specifically states that a causual PF group costs 3 EPs. Thomas Mathews 12 Dec 2012
STRONG: CONCURS.
SVC: done
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Tholian: Gunboat Flotillas: CPX: Cost (524.112) 3 The cost listed under (524.112) specifically states that a causual PF group costs 3 EPs. Thomas Mathews 12 Dec 2012
STRONG: CONCURS.
SVC: done
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Tholian FTL: Change build cost to "(521.23): 6 (1/yr)". - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013
STRONG: CONCURS.
SVC: done
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Tholian LAH: Add the missing colon ":" in the build cost. - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.
STRONG: CONCURS.
SVC: no longer
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Tholian LAP: Change conversion cost to "From LAS: 3" to match ISC War. - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.
STRONG: CONCURS.
SVC: done
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Tholian MPAL (PF): Change conversion cost to "None" to match other empires and pallets. - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.
STRONG: CONCURS.
SVC: I am sure there is method in the madness but I haven’t found it.
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Tholian REPR: Change notes to "Repair ship; See (422.0).". - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.
STRONG: CONCURS.
SVC: done
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DDV: Change YIS to Y176. G3 and Tholian Destroyer history article both list Y176 as date of construction. Ryan J Opel 23 Feb 2014
STRONG: CONCURS.
SVC: done
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CAW: Add two step conversion: From 2xPC‡: 5 Ryan J Opel 26 Feb 2014
STRONG: CONCURS. 2xPC>CA>CAW
SVC: done
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CCW: Add two step conversion: From 2xPC‡: 6 Ryan J Opel 26 Feb 2014
STRONG: CONCURS. 2xPC>CC>CCW
SVC: done
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PFT: Add: From SC/DDS: 3 Ryan J Opel 26 Feb 2014
STRONG: CONCURS.
SVC: done
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Tholian: Dreadnought: DHW: Conversion Cost: From DN: 2 should read: from DH: 2 The addition of Webcasters cost 2 EP when converting a ship to one with webcasters, e.g. DP to DPW or CC to CCW. Thomas Mathews 4 Apr 2015
STRONG: CONCURS.
SVC: ok.
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Tholian: Dreadnought: DHW: Conversion Cost: From DN: 2 should read from DN: 4. This conversion follows the came conversion cost as a CA to CCW. Thomas Mathews 4 Apr 2015
STRONG: CONCURS.
SVC: you do realize you changed the same DN to two different things?
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Tholian: Destroyer: DDV: Cost 4+8 should read 5+8. Escort Carriers have a surcharge of 1 EP over the base hull type. Thomas Mathews 4 Apr 2015
STRONG: Concurs with the above. Additionally From PC: 5+8 should read From PC‡: 5+8; as it is a two-step conversion PC>DD>DDV; it also need the "down triangle" as it is also considered a minor conversion under (437.21).
SVC: ok
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Tholian: PATROL CORVETTES: 3CPC: There now needs to be two entries: one 3CPC and one CPC. Keep 3CPC and remove CPC from designator. Old note is obsolete as the basic set eliminated unbreakable groups; replace note with: "Three uncrippled CPCs collectively carry 10EP (442.31); acts as a tug in some cases." -- STRONG - 7 Apr 2015
SVC:
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Tholian: PATROL CORVETTES: CPC: ADD new line entry for the separate unit as Basic F&E introduced new counter theater transports.
CPC; Ref 11; 4U/2; prod F&E; CR=3; date Y089; hull PC(4); From PC: 1; For PC: 2.5; salv 0.625; Notes: Theater Transport (539.72); can carry carry 3EP. -- STRONG - 7 Apr 2015
SVC:
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The above Tholian SIT reports have been processed. --FEDS
SVC: by both of us.
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By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Sunday, February 26, 2017 - 07:48 pm: Edit |
FIXED THIS, ALSO ADDED GLYF TO PFT AND PFW
Monitors & Pallets: MPAL(SCS): Cost: 5+6 should be 5+6+PFs. The cost of the PFs is missing from the actual cost of the pallet. Thomas Mathews 26 Feb 2017
By Ryan Opel (Ryan) on Sunday, February 26, 2017 - 07:52 pm: Edit |
DONE
MMG. Change availability to Y132. In notes Free MMGs available per (321.11) during General War. This is a rule change in (657.432). Ryan J Opel 26 Feb 2017
By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Friday, April 07, 2017 - 11:08 pm: Edit |
ALL DONE S6 APRIL 2017
ASC Build & conversion costs for PFs missing- add glyph - Howard Bampton 2017-04-03
HAP Conversion costs for PFs missing- add glyph - Howard Bampton 2017-04-03
LAP Build & conversion costs for PFs missing- add glyph - Howard Bampton 2017-04-03
SAP Build & conversion costs for PFs missing- add glyph - Howard Bampton 2017-04-03
By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Friday, April 07, 2017 - 11:08 pm: Edit |
PROCESSED
TURTLE ALREADY DID THIS:
MPAL (SCS) Build cost for PFs missing- add glyph - Howard Bampton 2017-04-03
THERE IS NOT A SINGLE INSTANCE OF THIS IN THE FILE.
Multiple "+PFS" used in several places instead of glyph - Howard Bampton 2017-04-03
DONE
HAA factors are shown as "3-8-1-4" instead of "3-8/1-4" suspect this has propagated through several other (all?) SITS. - Howard Bampton 2017-04-03
DONE
JWT "One/year" in build column while other entires say rule/cost (1/yr). Suggest: "(539.4): 6 (1/yr)" - Howard Bampton 2017-04-03
By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Friday, April 07, 2017 - 11:09 pm: Edit |
RESOLVED
PDW - Two conflicting entries in SIT (double sided or not, conversion costs, salvage) - Howard Bampton 2017-04-03
By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Friday, April 07, 2017 - 11:09 pm: Edit |
DONE 26 APRIL 2017
PV FTR build cost should be +4, not +6: " For POL/PC: 3+4" - Howard Bampton, 2017-04-01
NBB FTR build costs not accounted for in conv or build columns. - Howard Bampton, 2017-04-01
DNS Build & conversion costs for PFs missing- add glyph - Howard Bampton 2017-04-03
PFW Build & conversion costs for PFs missing- add glyph - Howard Bampton 2017-04-03
By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Friday, April 07, 2017 - 11:10 pm: Edit |
PROCESSED 26 APRIL 2017
PBB fighter cost for build & sub missing. - Howard Bampton, 2017-04-01
DH Note doesn't include early versions text and not consistent with other DNH hull text. Suggest (lifted from UFP)- "Heavy Variant of DN. No early variants." - Howard Bampton, 2017-04-01
DN Note doesn't include early versions text. Suggest "Basic Hull (DN). No early variants." (lifted from UFP)- Howard Bampton, 2017-04-01
CW Conversion cost unclear here- "From CW?: 1(V2)"- Howard Bampton, 2017-04-01
By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Thursday, April 27, 2017 - 12:27 am: Edit |
DONE
LAS Nonstandard EW notation. Alternative: "Large Auxiliary Scout; EW=3" - Howard Bampton 2017-04-26
LAP Nonstandard EW notation. Alternative: "Large Auxiliary PFT (526.4), Scout, EW=2" - Howard Bampton 2017-04-26
SAS Nonstandard EW notation. Alternative: "Small Auxiliary Scout, EW=2" - Howard Bampton 2017-04-26
By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Thursday, April 27, 2017 - 12:28 am: Edit |
DONE
HFtr Pack Build cost has "Build" as "Built" (past tense). "Build: 2+8" - Howard Bampton 2017-04-26
HAP Unit is a scout, notes do not state this. "Auxiliary PFT, Scout, EW=2" - Howard Bampton 2017-04-26
HSC Unit is a scout, notes do not state this. "Auxiliary SCS, Scout, EW=2" - Howard Bampton 2017-04-26
By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Thursday, April 27, 2017 - 12:28 am: Edit |
DONE
FLG Nonstandard EW notation. Alternative: "Police Flagship, Scout, EW=1, Commando Ship (one battalion)." - Howard Bampton 2017-04-26
BW (2BW) This is a group entry. Conversion source should be "Individual Ships" - Howard Bampton 2017-04-26
BW (2BW) This is a group entry. Build should be "Individual Ships" - Howard Bampton 2017-04-26
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