Processed Hydran SIT Reports

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By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, April 04, 2012 - 05:29 pm: Edit

REPORTS ON HYDRAN SIT UPDATE, PART ONE, THROUGH HEAVY CRUISERS.
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Hydran Dreadnoughts: LP: Notes: SCS, True CV should be: True PFT Variant of DN. This ship is a DNP like the Lyran DNP as it already has fighters. Michael Lui 01/01/09
STRONG: NON-CONCUR. Rationale: The LP is a true carrier SCS conversion of the Paladin dreadnought (the PAL carries HYBRID fighters; the LP carries CARRIER fighters). NO CHANGE REQUESTED.
SVC: no change made.
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Hydran Dreadnoughts: LP: From Pal 5+6 should be 3+0. The Lyran DNP costs only 3 to add PF carrying ability and not add or remove fighter bays. If you do not want to make the LP a DNP then it should at least be 3+6 to reflect the fact that fighter bays are still not being added or removed. Michael Lui 01/01/09
STRONG: NON-CONCUR. Rationale: The LP is a true carrier SCS conversion of the Paladin dreadnought (the PAL carries HYBRID fighters; the LP carries CARRIER fighters). NO CHANGE REQUESTED; conversion From PAL: 5+6 is correct (5 EPs for the SCS conversion plus 6 EPs to convert hybrid fighters to carrier fighters).
SVC: no change made.
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Hydran Dreadnoughts: DNW: Notes: one build/conversion max at year and it counts against PAL production. Fabio Poli 01/01/09
STRONG: CONCURS: see SFB (R9.109).
SVC: added.
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Hydran Heavy Battlecruisers: OV: Factors are given as "11-10(3)/5(1)". This should be updated to "11-10(3)/5(1t)" [triangle factor] to match F&E2010 SIT and counters. -James Lowry 24 Jan 2012
STRONG: CONCURS.
SVC: done
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Hydran Heavy Cruisers: RN: Factors are given as "6-8(4)/4(2)". This should be updated to "6-8(4t)/4(2)" [triangle factor];
build cost should be "6+4.5",
conversion cost from DG should be "3+3" to match F&E2010 SIT and counters. -James Lowry 24 Jan 2012
STRONG: CONCURS.
SVC: Three items done.
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Hydran Heavy Cruisers: LC: Conversion cost of LC "7-9(3)/5(1t)" from LB "10-9(1t)/5(1)" [triangle factor]" should be updated to "3+1.5" to reflect changed LB fighter factors. -James Lowry 25 Jan 2012
STRONG: CONCURS; further recommends adding triangle symbol to LC’s crippled fighter factor per F&E2KX SIT.
SVC: done
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Hydran Heavy Cruisers: TG: Factors are given as "3-8(2)/0-4(1)". This should be updated to "3-8(1t)/0-4(1)" [triangle factor]; build cost should be "6+1.5" to match F&E2010 SIT and counters. -James Lowry 24 Jan 2012
STRONG: CONCURS.
SVC: two items updated.
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Hydran Heavy Cruisers: DG: Factors are given as "9-8(2)/4(1)". This should be updated to "9-8(1t)/4(1)" [triangle factor]; build cost should be "8+1.5" to match F&E2010 SIT and counters. -James Lowry 24 Jan 2012
STRONG: CONCURS.
SVC: done.
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Hydran Heavy Cruisers: LM: Conversion cost of LM "8-9(3)/5(1t)" from LB "10-9(1t)/5(1)" should be updated to "3+1.5" to reflect changed LB fighter factors to match F&E2010 SIT. -James Lowry 25 Jan 2012
STRONG: CONCURS; further recommends adding triangle symbol to LM’s crippled fighter factor per F&E2KX SIT.
SVC: done
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Hydran Heavy Cruisers: LB: Factors are given as "10-9(2)/5(1)". This should be updated to "10-9(1t)/5(1)" [triangle factor]; build cost should be "9+1.5" to match F&E2010 SIT and counters. -James Lowry 24 Jan 2012
STRONG: CONCURS.
SVC: done.
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Hydran Heavy Cruisers: CV: Factors are given as "3-8(11)/1-4(6)". This should be updated to "3-8(10t)/1-4(5)" [triangle factor]; build cost should be "10+21"; conversion from RN cost should be "2+16.5"; conversion from DG cost should be "2+19.5" to match F&E2010 SIT and counters. -James Lowry 24 Jan 2012
STRONG: CONCURS.
SVC: done.
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Hydran Heavy Cruisers: PIV: The RN already has the same fighters as the PIV. So no change is required. Ryan J Opel 13 Jan 09
TENHOFF: PIV: 5+4 is correct. 5 for CA->Survey Cruiser +4 for hybrid to carrier fighters, since the PIV is a Medium Carrier. C. Tenhoff 14 Jan 09.
STRONG: NON-CONCURS with Opel and agrees with Tenhoff’s rationale: go with PIV: 5+4.
SVC: This report was very unclear. I think you wanted the RN to PIV conversion cost to be 5+4 so that’s what I did.
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Hydran Heavy Cruisers: PIV: Conversion cost from DG should be updated to "5+6.5" to reflect changed DG fighter factors. -James Lowry 25 Jan 2012
STRONG: CONCURS. Rationale: DG compot is "9-8(1t)/4(1)"; PIV compot is 4-8(4)u/2-4(2); the 6.5 EPs covers the hybrid fighter conversion and the added carrier fighters.
SVC: done.
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Hydran Heavy Cruisers: RGR: Conversion cost from RN should be updated to "1+1.5" to reflect changed RN fighter factors. -James Lowry 25 Jan 2012
STRONG: CONCURS: RN: 6-8(4t)/4(2) (per FE2KX SIT); RGR: 6-8(6)/4(3).
SVC: done.
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Hydran Heavy Cruisers: LE: Conversion cost from LB should be updated to "5+26.5"; cost from CV updated to "3+7" to reflect changed LB and CV fighter factors. -James Lowry 25 Jan 2012
STRONG: CONCURS; reference FE2KX SIT.
SVC: done.
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Hydran Heavy Cruisers: LHE: Conversion cost from LB should be updated to "5+10.5" to reflect changed LB fighter factors. -James Lowry 25 Jan 2012
STRONG: CONCURS; reference LB factors in FE2KX SIT.
SVC: done.
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Hydran Heavy Cruisers: RNX: Conversion cost from RN should be updated to "6+9.5" to reflect changed RN fighter factors. -James Lowry 25 Jan 2012
STRONG: CONCURS; reference RN factors in FE2KX SIT.
SVC: done.
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Hydran Heavy Cruisers: DGX: Conversion cost from DG should be updated to "5+3.5" to reflect changed DG fighter factors. -James Lowry 25 Jan 2012
STRONG: CONCURS; reference DG factors "9-8(1t)/4(1)" in FE2KX SIT.
SVC: done.
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Hydran Heavy Cruisers: LBX: Double Conversion of LC/LM to LBX missing. Cost should be 7+3, with double conversion mark. C. Tenhoff 14 Jan 09
STRONG: RECOMMENDATION: add conversion From LC/LM: 7+2; Rationale: LC/LMs paid 3 EP for their hybrid fighters; LBX is 13(2t)/7(1) with X-fighters costing 5 points. However this is NOT a two-step conversion per definition in (437.1).
SVC: done.
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Hydran Heavy Cruisers: LBX: Conversion cost from LB "10-9(1t)/5(1)" to LBX "13(2t)/7(1)" should be updated to "5+3.5" to reflect changed LB fighter factors. -James Lowry 25 Jan 2012
STRONG: CONCURS
SVC:
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Hydran New Heavy Cruisers: MKH: Add to conversions "From HR‡: 4+16 (minor)". HR>MHK>MKH=[3+1]+[2+15]-1=4+16 (minor). This two-step conversion is listed in (437.1) "CL>NCA>MKH" but is not on the SIT. Jeff Coutu 19 January 09
STRONG: CONCURS
SVC: done.
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By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, April 04, 2012 - 05:48 pm: Edit

REPORTS ON HYDRAN SIT UPDATE, PART TWO, New Heavy Cruisers
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Hydran New Heavy Cruisers: MKH: Add to conversions "From IRQ: 2+18". This conversion is part of the two-step conversion TR>IRQ>MKH listed in (437.1) "CL>NCA>MKH" and so it should be on the SIT. Since MHK>MKH=2+15, I figured the base cost of IRQ>MKH would also be 2. Jeff Coutu 19 January 09
STRONG: CONCURS; add "From IRQ: 2+18".
SVC: should it have the two-step mark?
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Hydran New Heavy Cruisers: MKH: Add to conversions "From TR‡: 4+19 (minor)". TR>IRQ>MKH=[3+1]+[2+18]-1=4+19 (minor). This two-step conversion is listed in (437.1) "CL>NCA>MKH" but is not on the SIT. The IRQ>MKH is not listed on the SIT but since MHK>MKH=2+15, I figured IRQ>MKH=2+18. Jeff Coutu 19 January 09
STRONG: CONCURS; add "From TR‡: 4+19 (minor)".
SVC: done.
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Hydran New Heavy Cruisers: CHY: Add to conversions "From HR‡: 5 (minor)". HR>MHK>CHY=[3+1]+3-1=5 (minor). Both HR and CHY have 3 fighter factors so no fighter cost for the conversion. This two-step conversion is listed in (437.1) "CL>NCA>CHY" but is not on the SIT. Jeff Coutu 19 January 09
STRONG: CONCURS; add "From HR‡: 5 (minor)".
SVC: done.
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Hydran New Heavy Cruisers: CHY: Add to conversions "From TR‡: 5+4 (minor)". TR>IRQ>CHY=[3+1]+[3+3]-1=5+4 (minor). This two-step conversion is listed in (437.1) "CL>NCA>CHY" but is not on the SIT. Jeff Coutu 19 January 09
STRONG: CONCURS
SVC: done.
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Hydran New Heavy Cruisers: IRC: Conversion cost from MHK should have "(minor)" added since both sub-steps of the two-step conversion each cost 3 EPs or less (437.21). MHK>IRQ>IRC=3+2-1=4 (minor). Jeff Coutu 19 January 09
STRONG: CONCURS
SVC: done.
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Hydran New Heavy Cruisers: IRC: Conversion cost from TR should have "(minor)" added since both sub-steps of the two-step conversion each cost 3 EPs or less (437.21). TR>IRQ>IRC=[3+1]+2-1=4+1 (minor). Jeff Coutu 19 January 09
STRONG: CONCURS
SVC: done
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Hydran New Heavy Cruisers: IRF: Conversion cost from TR should have "(minor)" added since both sub-steps of the two-step conversion each cost 3 EPs or less (437.21). TR>IRQ>IRF=[3+1]+2-1=4+1 (minor). Jeff Coutu 19 January 09
STRONG: CONCURS
SVC: done.
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Hydran New Heavy Cruisers: MKI: Conversion cost from IRQ should have "(minor)" added since both sub-steps of the two-step conversion each cost 3 EPs or less (437.21). IRQ>MHK>MKI=[3+3]+2-1=4+2 (minor). Jeff Coutu 19 January 09
STRONG: CONCURS
SVC: done.
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Hydran New Heavy Cruisers: MKV: Add to conversions "From HR‡: 4+15 (minor)". HR>MHK>MKV=[3+1]+[2+14]-1=4+15 (minor). This two-step conversion is listed in (437.1) "CL>NCA>MKV" but is not on the SIT. Jeff Coutu 19 January 09
STRONG: CONCURS
SVC: done
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Hydran New Heavy Cruisers: MKV: Add to conversions "From IRQ: 2+17". This conversion is part of the two-step conversion TR>IRQ>MKV listed in (437.1) "CL>NCA>MKV" and so it should be on the SIT. Since MHK>MKV=2+14, I figured the base cost of IRQ>MKV would also be 2. Jeff Coutu 19 January 09
STRONG: CONCURS
SVC: done, but should it have two-step symbol?
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Hydran New Heavy Cruisers: MKV: Add to conversions "From TR‡: 4+18 (minor)". TR>IRQ>MKV=[3+1]+[2+17]-1=4+18 (minor). This two-step conversion is listed in (437.1) "CL>NCA>MKV" but is not on the SIT. The IRQ>MKV is not listed on the SIT but since MHK>MKV=2+14, I figured IRQ>MKV=2+17. Jeff Coutu 19 January 09
STRONG: CONCURS
SVC: done.
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Hydran New Heavy Cruisers: MTG: Conversion cost from HR should have "(minor)" added since both sub-steps of the two-step conversion each cost 3 EPs or less (437.21). HR>MHK>MTG=[3+1]+3-1=5 (minor). Jeff Coutu 19 January 09
STRONG: CONCURS
SVC: done
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Hydran New Heavy Cruisers: MTG: Conversion cost from TR should have "(minor)" added since both sub-steps of the two-step conversion each cost 3 EPs or less (437.21). TR>IRQ>MTG=[3+1]+[3+1]-1=5+2 (minor). Jeff Coutu 19 January 09
STRONG: CONCURS
SVC: done.
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Hydran New Heavy Cruisers: VED: Conversion cost from NCV should have "(minor)" added since both sub-steps of the two-step conversion each cost 3 EPs or less (437.21). This is basically the same as a TR>IRQ>VED=[3+1]+[5+15]-1=7+16 conversion but with a [2+12] EP deduction on the IRQ>VED for starting as a NCV which makes it minor conversion costing 5+4. Jeff Coutu 19 January 09
STRONG: CONCURS
SVC: done.
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Hydran New Heavy Cruisers: DCS: Missing "from MKH: 5+6". This would be inline with the VED->DCS conversion. C. Tenhoff 14 Jan 09
STRONG: CONCURS
SVC: done.
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Hydran New Heavy Cruisers: MKP: Missing "From NPF: 3+1". This would be inline with the TR->IRQ conversion. C. Tenhoff 14 Jan 09
STRONG: CONCURS
SVC: done.
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By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Wednesday, April 04, 2012 - 07:03 pm: Edit

STRONG REPLIES TO SVC FROM ABOVE

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Hydran New Heavy Cruisers: MKH: Add to conversions "From IRQ: 2+18". This conversion is part of the two-step conversion TR>IRQ>MKH listed in (437.1) "CL>NCA>MKH" and so it should be on the SIT. Since MHK>MKH=2+15, I figured the base cost of IRQ>MKH would also be 2. Jeff Coutu 19 January 09
STRONG: CONCURS; add "From IRQ: 2+18".
SVC: should it have the two-step mark?
STRONG: No - IRQ>MKH is only one step of a legal two step.
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Hydran New Heavy Cruisers: MKV: Add to conversions "From IRQ: 2+17". This conversion is part of the two-step conversion TR>IRQ>MKV listed in (437.1) "CL>NCA>MKV" and so it should be on the SIT. Since MHK>MKV=2+14, I figured the base cost of IRQ>MKV would also be 2. Jeff Coutu 19 January 09
STRONG: CONCURS
SVC: done, but should it have two-step symbol?
STRONG: No - IRQ>MKV is only one step of a legal two step.
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By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, April 04, 2012 - 09:31 pm: Edit

REPORTS ON HYDRAN SIT UPDATE, PART THREE.
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Hydran Pegasus Cruisers: PGC: Date available Y172, should be Y173 per G2. Michael Lui March 29, 2009 (If using prototype rule, Y172 could be correct for this ship.)
STRONG: G3 also reports Y173.
SVC: Y172 is the date you can build it in F&E.
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Hydran Pegasus Cruisers: PGG: Date available Y172, should be Y178 per G2. Michael Lui March 29, 2009
STRONG: G3 also reports Y178.
SVC: Y172 is the date you can build it in F&E.
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Hydran Pegasus Cruisers: PGV: Date available Y172, should be Y166 per G2. Michael Lui March 29, 2009
STRONG: G3 also reports Y166.
SVC: Correct date for F&E is Y172. The Y166 date is "unclear" according to rulebook. Y172 is first time confirmed in service and matches all of the other "you can build it now no matter when THEY built it" dates.
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Hydran Pegasus Cruisers ZZY: Now that there is a "combat version" of the Pegasus hull (the PGC) would not the PGC be the base hull of the entire Pegasus series and not the Pegasus Scout (PGS)? If so, should the YIS for the PGC may need to be Y145 to reflect that the PGC COULD have been built as early as Y145 but none actually were built until Y172. Other unintended consequences of NOT making the PGC the base hull is that deport repairs of ANY Pegasus hull can kick out a Pegasus SCOUTS since the PGS is currently listed as the base hull type of the Pegasus series." From (424.31): "The ship can be converted into the base hull type for no cost and requiring no conversion capacity during any turn it is on the track." As it is now written, a PGC goes into depot as a light cruiser and can come out as a Pegasus scout (PGS) at not cost for the EW conversion. RECOMMENDATION: Change all Pegasus series ships to base hull type PGC and change PGC YIS to Y145. STRONG – 2 APR 2012
Hydran Pegasus Cruisers ZZZ: RECOMMENDATION: Re-sort this section due to date changes. STRONG – 2 APR 2012
SVC: We did some research and determined that the original Pegasus was the PGZ cargo ship, so it’s the base hull. We are absolutely positively NOT going to move the cruiser variant date back to Y145. Shame on you for trying that!!!
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Hydran War Cruisers and Light Cruisers: HR: Factors are given as "5-7(3)/4(1)". This should be updated to "5-7(3)/4(1t)" [triangle factor] to match F&E2010 SIT and counters. -James Lowry 24 Jan 2012
STRONG: CONCURS.
SVC: done
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Hydran War Cruisers: and Light Cruisers: NSC: Factors are given as "2-7(3)[diamond]/0-4(1)". This should be updated to "2-7(3)[diamond]/0-4(1t)" [triangle factor] to match F&E2010 SIT and counters. -James Lowry 24 Jan 2012
STRONG: CONCURS
SVC: done
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Hydran War Cruisers and Light Cruisers: NEC: Factors are given as "5-7(3)[escort]/3-4(1)[escort]". This should be updated to "5-7(3)[escort]/3-4(1t)[escort]" [triangle factor] to match F&E2010 SIT and counters. -James Lowry 24 Jan 2012
STRONG: CONCURS
SVC: done
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Hydran Heavy War Destroyers: HDW: Conversion cost from CU should have "(minor)" added since both sub-steps of the two-step conversion each cost 3 EPs or less (437.21). CU>DWH>HDW=2+[3+3]-1=4+3 (minor). Jeff Coutu 19 January 09
STRONG: NON-CONCURS; the HDW is not a variant of the DWH. The HDW is its own class.
SVC: nothing changed.
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Hydran Destroyers: SR: Conversion should be "From LN: 5, From KN 5+2", instead of "from DD: 5", since the LN has 2 Hybrid Fighters. C. Tenhoff 14 Jan 09
STRONG: CONCURS; list "From LN: 5; From KN 5+2".
SVC:
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Hydran Destroyers: SRG: Conversion should be "From LN: 5, From KN 5+2", instead of "from DD: 5", since the KN does not have 2 Hybrid Fighters. C. Tenhoff 14 Jan 09
STRONG: CONCURS; list "From LN: 5; From KN 5+2".
SVC: done.
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Hydran Destroyers: SRG: Conversion should be "From LNG: 5+1" Fabio Poli 16 JAN 09
STRONG: CONCURS. Rationale: SRG has two hybrid factors; LNG has one hybrid factor.
SVC: done.
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Hydran Destroyers: SRV: Conversion should be "from LN: 5+6, from KN 5+8", instead of from "DD: 5+8", since the LN has 2 Hybrid Fighters. C. Tenhoff 14 Jan 09
STRONG: CONCURS; list both conversions.
SVC: done.
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Hydran Destroyers: SRV: Conversion should be "from DDS: 3+6", instead of "From DDS: 3+8", since the DDS has 2 Hybrid Fighters. C. Tenhoff 14 Jan 09
STRONG: CONCURS.
SVC: done
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Hydran Destroyers: DE: Factors are given as "4-6(3)[escort]/2-3(1)[escort]". This should be updated to "4-6(3)[escort]/2-3(1t)[escort]" [triangle factor] to match F&E2010 SIT and counters. -James Lowry 24 Jan 2012
STRONG: CONCURS.
SVC: done.
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Hydran Destroyers: LNH: Factors are given as " 5-7(3)/3-4(1)". This should be updated to " 5-7(3)/3-4(1t)" [triangle factor] to match F&E2010 SIT and counters. STRONG: 2 APR 2012.
SVC: done.
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Hydran SIT: Recommend creating new category: "HYDRAN HEAVY DESTROYER" and moving LNH Heavy Lancer to this category. Rationale: The LNH is its own class as a modular ship just as other Heavy War Destroyers. STRONG – 2 APR 2012
SVC: done.
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Hydran Destroyers: LNX: Double Conversion of KN to LNX missing. Cost should be "From KN: 7+6", with double conversion mark. C. Tenhoff 14 Jan 09
STRONG: CONCURS; add From KN: 7+6. Rationale: KN+5 > KNX+3+6 - [1EP discount] > LNX; also adjust factors to add triangle fighter 7-9(3)/3-5(1t).
SVC: done.
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Hydran Destroyers: SCX: Cost of Conversion from LN or KN seems to be off by 1. Double Conversion discount would make the costs "From LN: 7+4, >From KN: 7+6", with double conversion mark. C. Tenhoff 14 Jan 09.
STRONG: CONCURS. Rationale for 7+4: LN+5+4 > LNX+3 - [1EP Discount] > SCX. Rationale for 7+6: KN+5 > KNX+3+6 - [1EP Discount] > SCX.
SVC: Not done.
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Hydran Destroyers: KNX: Double Conversion of LN to KNX missing. Cost should be 7, with double conversion mark. C. Tenhoff 14 Jan 09
STRONG: CONCURS; add "From LN: 7". Rationale: LN+5 > LNX+3 - [1EP discount] > KNX.
SVC: 8, no discount for double conversion X-ships.
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Hydran War Destroyers: DWE: Move the CU conversion up one line to the HN line since it is also a two-step conversion per (437.1) "FF>DW>DWE". CU>DWH>DWE=2+[1+2]-1=2+1. Jeff Coutu 19 January 09
STRONG: SIT and Coutu are both in error. In the case of the DWE, since one step of a legal two-step conversion is only 1 EP there is NO discount at all. RECOMMENDATION: REMOVE "From HN: 2+1‡ >From AH or CU: 2+1" and REPLACE with "From FF‡: 3+1". Rationale: FF+2+1 > DWF+1 > DWE; and additionally list: "From AH‡: 2+1".
SVC: What a zoo, could not grasp what you wanted, split out AH from CH but left alone.
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Hydran Frigates: CR: Cost should be 3. Other empires with 5/3 frigates cost 3 not 3.5. Thomas Mathews 25 Mar 2012
STRONG: NON-CONCURS: as the CR is a leader version.
SVC: no change made.
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Hydran Police Ships: POL: No Build Cost - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
STRONG: RECOMMENDATION per (531.122) add For FF: 2.5.
SVC: added.
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Hydran Police Ships: PV (GNV): No Call Up cost like the police ships. - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
STRONG: RECOMMENDATION per (531.41) add Call up: 3.
SVC: done.
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Hydran Police Ships: FLG: Add Call up: 2 per (531.32). STRONG – 2 APR 2012
SVC: done.
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Hydran Large Auxiliaries: REPR: Conversion cost as "None" instead of "—NA—" like other empires - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
STRONG: Go with "None".
SVC: no change made.
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Hydran Large Auxiliaries: LAV: SFB Ref # has "R1.13 B" instead of just "13B" like most other LAV's - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
STRONG: Reference of 1.13B is correct nomenclature since it references a general section "R-Section" rule; no change required.
SVC: R1.13B.
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Hydran Large Auxiliaries: LAP: SFB Ref # has "R1.27 B" instead of just "27B" like most other LAP's - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
STRONG: Reference of 1.27B is correct nomenclature since it references a general section "R-Section" rule; no change required.
SVC: R1.27B
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Hydran Small Auxiliaries: SAV: SFB Ref # is "R1.13 A" instead of "13A" like other empires - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
STRONG: Reference of 1.13A is correct nomenclature since it references a general section "R-Section" rule; no change required.
SVC: R1.13A
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Hydran Small Auxiliaries: SAP: SFB Ref # is "R1.27 A" instead of "27A" like other empires - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
STRONG: Reference of 1.27A is correct nomenclature since it references a general section "R-Section" rule; no change required.
SVC: R1.27A
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Hydran Bases: Ftr-Depot See (443.0). Hydran Ftr-Depot See (445.0) Rule number change from (443.0) to (445.0). Thomas Mathews 29 March 09
STRONG: CONCURS.
SVC: done.
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Hydran Planetary Units: Colony Cost stated (446.13) 2+2+2 should read (446.13) 1+1+1 Cost changed in Captain's Log 37 Thomas Mathews 26 Aug 2009
STRONG: CONCURS.
SVC: done.
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Hydran Planetary Units: Shipyard: Conversion cost is "None" instead of "—NA—" like other empires - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
STRONG: CONCURS.
SVC: done
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Hydran Markers and Special Units: ADM: Factor shows conversion cost as "None", other ADM's show "—NA—" - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
STRONG: CONCURS.
SVC: na
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Hydran Markers and Special Units: Prime Teams: Listed as a "MOBILE SUPPORT UNIT" when most empires have these under "MARKERS AND SPECIAL UNITS" - Eric S. Smith 1 Jan 2009
STRONG: RECOMMENDATION: Move to "MARKERS AND SPECIAL UNITS".
SVC: done
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By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Monday, May 06, 2013 - 11:56 pm: Edit

Hydran TEM+: This unit has a crippled factor attack factor of 4, which is less than the crippled defense factor.

Hydran LNH: This unit has a crippled factor attack factor of 3, which is less than the crippled defense factor.

Hydran MHK: This unit has a crippled factor attack factor of 3, which is less than the crippled defense factor.

Hydran HDW: This unit has a crippled factor attack factor of 3, which is less than the crippled defense factor.

Hydran LNX: Crippled attack factor is less than half of the uncrippled attack factor, which seems weird.

Hydran LNX and RNX have the same problem as the ships listed above (if that is a problem) but perhaps that is intended because they are X-ships?

Generally Hydran fusion ships have a crippled attack factor equal to their crippled defense factor (perhaps meant to reflect their general toughness?). This is the case with the LC RN HR LN and HN classes, but not the TEM+, LNH, HDW, RNX LNX or MHK.

SVC NOTE! WE ARENT GOING TO CHANGE PUBLISHED COUNTERS.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Saturday, April 25, 2015 - 12:44 pm: Edit

THINGS DONE
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By Eric Smith (Badsyntax) on Friday, November 09, 2012
The counter and SIT show the THR as having 2 fighter factors. Should this unit be 1.5 or 2?
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By Ryan Opel (Ryan) on Friday, November 09, 2012
When the counters get reprinted many ships will be updated for 1/2 fighter factors. The SITs will be updated at that time.
It should be 1.5.
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STRONG: No change at this time. We will address this issue when AO counters are reprinted.
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SVC: to all things there is a season. We’re reprinting N+O in this batch, so I changed the TH to 1.5. Not sure what the back should be, 1 or 0.5. Staff? Anyway, this brings up a point. The SIT and old counters both say 2 and I have to ask how many other counters on N+O or I+J have the "wrong" factors? STAFF, get them all checked against SSDs!
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By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Tuesday, December 11, 2012
Hydran: Gunboat Flotillas: CPF: Cost (524.112) 3 The cost listed under (524.112) specifically states that a causual PF group costs 3 EPs. Thomas Mathews 12 Dec 2012
STRONG: Concurs.
Hydran: Gunboat Flotillas: CPX: Cost (524.112) 3 The cost listed under (524.112) specifically states that a causual PF group costs 3 EPs. Thomas Mathews 12 Dec 2012
STRONG: Concurs.
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SVC: now a standard change, fixed.
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Hydran APT: SFB Ref # should be R1.8 - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.
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SVC: I do all of this "add R1." stuff as a global; individual items not listed.
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Hydran FRD+: Change notes to "See (441.433) With fighter modules; (421.0) without." - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.
STRONG: Concurs.
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SVC: done
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Hydran FTL: Change build cost to "(521.23): 6 (1/yr)". - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.
STRONG: Concurs.
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SVC: done
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Hydran LAP: Change conversion cost to "From LAS: 3" to match ISC War. - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.
STRONG: Concurs.
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SVC: done, but confusing because it was an addition, not a change.
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Hydran MPAL (PF): Change SFB Ref # to "R1.22E". Change conversion cost to "None" to match other races and pallets. - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.
STRONG: Concurs.
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SVC: done, but "races" was obsolete long ago.
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Hydran PWR, module: Change designation to "PAM (Power Augmentation Module)" for consistency. Change SFB Ref # to "R1.17". Change notes to "Power augmentation module for base, (441.5). Treated as a PFM." - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.
STRONG: Concurs.
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SVC: Not done, as Chuck (who concurred above) replaced the whole PAM line with HPM during the base realignment episode.
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Hydran REPR: Change conversion cost to "—NA—" to match all other races. Change notes to "Repair ship; See (422.0)". - Eric S. Smith 08 JAN 2013.
STRONG: Concurs.
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SVC: Note added, but I went with "none" here.
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By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Saturday, April 25, 2015 - 01:34 pm: Edit

THINGS THAT WERE DONE
(OR NOT DONE, IF THEY WERE ALREADY DONE)
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By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Thursday, June 20, 2013
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Hydran PGS: This unit has a construction cost of 7, which is the same as the base hull (PGZ). As the conversion cost of a PG? to a PGS is 2, it may be that the PGS should have a construction cost of 9.
STRONG: Concurs.
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SVC: done
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Hydran PGR: This unit has a construction cost of 11, which is four more than the construction cost of the base hull (PGZ). As most SRs cost five over the construction cost of the base unit, this unit should possibly cost 12.
STRONG: Concurs.
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SVC: done
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Hydran PFT: This unit has a construction cost of 11, which is four more than the construction cost of the base hull (PGZ). As most PFTs cost five over the construction cost of the base unit (maybe all PFTs?), this unit should possibly cost 12.
STRONG: Concurs.
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SVC: done
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Hydran PGV: The conversion cost is listed as 3 (plus fighters), it should probably be 2 as it is a medium carrier and the standard for such a conversion seems to be 2.
STRONG: Concurs.
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SVC: done
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Hydran PGV: The construction cost is listed as 8, which is one more than the cost of the base hull. As the ship is a medium carrier, it should probably have a construction cost of 2 over the base hull construction cost of 7, resulting in a cost of 9.
STRONG: Concurs.
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SVC: done
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Hydran SR: The construction cost is listed as 9 (plus fighters). As the ship is not a fusion ship, it's base cost would possibly be 6 (this is apparently the case for the UH, which has a construction cost of 8), this would mean the ship's construction cost should possibly be 11 (plus fighters).
STRONG: Concurs.
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SVC: done
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By Jason E. Schaff (Jschaff297061) on Sunday, January 12, 2014
Hydran FFT: Date available should be Y134 (not Y150). Rationale: The SFB Master Ship Chart YIS is 134. - Jason E. Schaff 01/12/2014
STRONG: Concurs.
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SVC: done
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By John de Michele (Jdemichele) on Friday, June 06, 2014
Hydran PIC: Cost listed at 13+2, should be 13+1. Rationale: Hybrid carrier fighter cost per factor is 1, per 432.24. John de Michele 06/06/2014
STRONG: Concurs.
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SVC: done
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Hydran PIG: Cost listed at 13+2, should be 13+1. Rationale: Hybrid carrier fighter cost per factor is 1, per 432.24. John de Michele 06/06/2014
STRONG: Concurs.
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SVC: done
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By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Wednesday, June 18, 2014
Hydran: Frigates: CR: Cost 3.5 should be 3. The Kzinti FF is 2.5, while the much improved FFK is 3. Klingon E4 is 2.5, while the much improved F5 is 3. The CR is 5/2 as opposed the CU 4/2 or HN 3-4/2, Z-FF and K-E4 4/2 or Z-FFK and K-F5 5/3. Thomas Mathews 18 Jun 2014
STRONG: NON-concurs; it is a leader version and cost 1 EP more.
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By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Wednesday, June 18, 2014
Additional reasoning for above change: Romulan SN 4/2 costs 2.5, while Romulan SNB 5/2 costs 3 The SNB is considered a FF leader in the notes section. Thomas Mathews 18 Jun 2014
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By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Wednesday, June 18, 2014
I think it comes under the same sort of thing as the F5L costing 1 more than the F5 and such. Other leader ships (other than the SNB) cost 1 pt (or more) than non leader versions. I don't think we should change the counters on a ship the Hydrans are unlikely to build in any case.
If anything was considered for change (of leaders), I think the SNB should probably cost 3.5 rather than 3 (being a fairly significant refit).
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By James Lowry (Rindis) on Thursday, June 19, 2014 - 10:12 pm: Edit
Actually, the SNB isn't a leader version (despite the SIT note, which should probably be changed), it's just an improved version. Note that the CR is 3 on both the SN and SNB.
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STRONG: Please cite source that SNB is NOT a leader. We cannot make changes unless cited.
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By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Friday, June 20, 2014
Ah, nevermind then.
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SVC: no change made.
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By James Lowry (Rindis) on Wednesday, March 18, 2015
Hydran KNH: Should be moved from 'Destroyers' to 'Heavy Destroyers' (where the LNH already is).
STRONG: Concurs.
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SVC: done
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Hydran: Base Modules: FXM: ADD to SIT this X-fighter base module for Stinger-Xs.
DATA: FXM (X-Fighter Module); Ref R1.4; factors 0(4.5X)/0(2X); prod AO; CR +0; date Y182; hull -NA-; From FTM: 0+1.5; Build: 1+4.5; salv 0.000; Hydran X-fighter module (523.512) (Stinger-Xs); fighter costs must be paid with XTPs. 2xFXM squadron factors: 0(9X)/0(4.5X). Use FTM slots. --Chuck Strong
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SVC: ADDED
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STRONG: no change to costs are needed. But we need to add to the SIT NOTES the following: X-fighter costs must be paid with XTPs or 1:1 FFF per (525.52).
These ships include:
RNX
DGX
LBX
LNX
D7HX
FCX
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SVC:
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By Ryan Opel (Ryan) on Tuesday, April 21, 2015 - 05:58 pm: Edit
These are the Hydran SIT AVAILABILITY dates for the stated units below:
CPF: Y180F PF3 604.0
CPX: Y180F PF3 604.0
LAH: Y177 St-S
SAH: Y177 St-S
FRX: Y182 per G3
BS(N): Y120 per G3.
STB(N): Y175
STB(F): Y175
SFB(N): Y179 per G3.
SB(N): Y140 per G3.
MEGA: Y179 535.11
MEGA-H: Y179F 535.11
MEGA-X: Y182 Intro of St-X
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SVC: It already says that. These date things that do not change what was there in the 2012 SIT need to NOT BE POSTED as they just waste my time finding them on the chart only to find that I wasted the time. Please go remove them from all posted data lists.
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MP-V: Y140 Mon intro date
MP-P: Y179F PF1 604.0
MP-S: Y180F PF3 604.0
LAV: Y128 St-0
LAP: Y179F PF1 604.0
ASC: Y179F PF1 604.0
SAV: Y128 St-0
SAP: Y179F PF1 604.0
FRD+: Y140
BS(F): Y128 St-0
BS(FP): Y179F PF1 604.0
BSX(N): Y182 LNX R9.204
BSX(F): Y182 LNX R9.204
BSX(FP): Y182 LNX R9.204
BTS(N): Y130 per G3.
BTS(F): Y130
BTS(FP): Y179F PF1 604.0
BTX(N): Y182 LNX R9.204
BTX(F): Y182 LNX R9.204
BTX(FP): Y182 LNX R9.204
STB(FP): Y179F PF1 604.0
STX(N): Y182 LNX R9.204
STX(F): Y182 LNX R9.204
STX(FP): Y182 LNX R9.204
SB(F): Y140
SB(FP): Y179F PF1 604.0
SBX(N): Y182 LNX R9.204
SBX(F): Y182 LNX R9.204
SBX(FP): Y182 LNX R9.204
SFB(F): Y179 per G3
SFB(FP): Y179F PF1 604.0
SFX(N): Y184
SFX(F): Y184
SFX(FP): Y184
FTM: Y124 St-0
PFM: Y179F PF1 604.0
HFM: Y177 St-S
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SVC: done.
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PDU: Y124 St-0
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SVC: WRONG, the base itself is not available until Y135.
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By James Lowry (Rindis) on Tuesday, January 24, 2012=
Hydran LB: Factors are given as "10-9(2)/5(1)". This should be updated to "10-9(1t)/5(t)" [triangle factor]; build cost should be "9+1.5" to match F&E2010 SIT and counters. -James Lowry 24 Jan 2012
STRONG: Concurs.
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SVC: It already says that, presumably updated at some interim point.
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Hydran RN: Factors are given as "6-8(4)/4(2)". This should be updated to "6-8(4t)/4(2)" [triangle factor]; build cost should be "6+4.5", conversion cost from DG should be "3+3" to match F&E2010 SIT and counters. -James Lowry 24 Jan 2012
STRONG: Concurs.
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SVC: It already says that, presumably updated at some interim point.
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Hydran DG: Factors are given as "9-8(2)/4(1)". This should be updated to "9-8(1t)/4(t)" [triangle factor]; build cost should be "8+1.5" to match F&E2010 SIT and counters. -James Lowry 24 Jan 2012
STRONG: Concurs.
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SVC: It already says that, presumably updated at some interim point.
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Hydran TG: Factors are given as "3-8(2)/0-4(1)". This should be updated to "3-8(1t)/0-4(t)" [triangle factor]; build cost should be "6+1.5" to match F&E2010 SIT and counters. -James Lowry 24 Jan 2012
STRONG: Concurs.
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SVC: It already says that, presumably updated at some interim point.
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Hydran CV: Factors are given as "3-8(11)/1-4(6)". This should be updated to "3-8(10t)/1-4(5)" [triangle factor]; build cost should be "10+21"; conversion from RN cost should be "2+16.5"; conversion from DG cost should be "2+19.5" to match F&E2010 SIT and counters. -James Lowry 24 Jan 2012
STRONG: Concurs.
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SVC: It already says that, presumably updated at some interim point.
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Hydran HR: Factors are given as "5-7(3)/4(1)". This should be updated to "5-7(3)/4(1t)" [triangle factor] to match F&E2010 SIT and counters. -James Lowry 24 Jan 2012
STRONG: Concurs.
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SVC: I am running out of time so I’m not going to check any more of these that were probably fixed already. Check the 2015 SIT and if it’s wrong report it and if not then I guessed right that this was done earlier.
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Hydran OV: Factors are given as "11-10(3)/5(1)". This should be updated to "11-10(3)/5(1t)" [triangle factor] to match F&E2010 SIT and counters. -James Lowry 24 Jan 2012
STRONG: Concurs.
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SVC: I am running out of time so I’m not going to check any more of these that were probably fixed already. Check the 2015 SIT and if it’s wrong report it and if not then I guessed right that this was done earlier.
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Hydran NSC: Factors are given as "2-7(3)[diamond]/0-4(1)". This should be updated to "2-7(3)[diamond]/0-4(1t)" [triangle factor] to match F&E2010 SIT and counters. -James Lowry 24 Jan 2012
STRONG: Concurs.
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SVC: I am running out of time so I’m not going to check any more of these that were probably fixed already. Check the 2015 SIT and if it’s wrong report it and if not then I guessed right that this was done earlier.
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Hydran NEC: Factors are given as "5-7(3)[escort]/3-4(1)[escort]". This should be updated to "5-7(3)[escort]/3-4(1t)[escort]" [triangle factor] to match F&E2010 SIT and counters. -James Lowry 24 Jan 2012
STRONG: Concurs.
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SVC: I am running out of time so I’m not going to check any more of these that were probably fixed already. Check the 2015 SIT and if it’s wrong report it and if not then I guessed right that this was done earlier.
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Hydran DE: Factors are given as "4-6(3)[escort]/2-3(1)[escort]". This should be updated to "4-6(3)[escort]/2-3(1t)[escort]" [triangle factor] to match F&E2010 SIT and counters. -James Lowry 24 Jan 2012
STRONG: Concurs.
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SVC: I am running out of time so I’m not going to check any more of these that were probably fixed already. Check the 2015 SIT and if it’s wrong report it and if not then I guessed right that this was done earlier.
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Hydran LC: Conversion cost from LB should be updated to "3+1.5" to reflect changed LB fighter factors. -James Lowry 25 Jan 2012
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SVC: I am running out of time so I’m not going to check any more of these that were probably fixed already. Check the 2015 SIT and if it’s wrong report it and if not then I guessed right that this was done earlier.
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Hydran LM: Conversion cost from LB should be updated to "3+1.5" to reflect changed LB fighter factors. -James Lowry 25 Jan 2012
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SVC: I am running out of time so I’m not going to check any more of these that were probably fixed already. Check the 2015 SIT and if it’s wrong report it and if not then I guessed right that this was done earlier.
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Hydran PIV: Conversion cost from DG should be updated to "5+6.5" to reflect changed DG fighter factors. -James Lowry 25 Jan 2012
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SVC: I am running out of time so I’m not going to check any more of these that were probably fixed already. Check the 2015 SIT and if it’s wrong report it and if not then I guessed right that this was done earlier.
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Hydran RGR: Conversion cost from RN should be updated to "1+1.5" to reflect changed RN fighter factors. -James Lowry 25 Jan 2012
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SVC: I am running out of time so I’m not going to check any more of these that were probably fixed already. Check the 2015 SIT and if it’s wrong report it and if not then I guessed right that this was done earlier.
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Hydran LE: Conversion cost from LB should be updated to "5+26.5"; cost from CV updated to "3+7" to reflect changed LB and CV fighter factors. -James Lowry 25 Jan 2012
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SVC: I am running out of time so I’m not going to check any more of these that were probably fixed already. Check the 2015 SIT and if it’s wrong report it and if not then I guessed right that this was done earlier.
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Hydran LHE: Conversion cost from LB should be updated to "5+10.5" to reflect changed LB fighter factors. -James Lowry 25 Jan 2012
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SVC: I am running out of time so I’m not going to check any more of these that were probably fixed already. Check the 2015 SIT and if it’s wrong report it and if not then I guessed right that this was done earlier.
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Hydran RNX: Conversion cost from RN should be updated to "6+9.5" to reflect changed RN fighter factors. -James Lowry 25 Jan 2012
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SVC: I am running out of time so I’m not going to check any more of these that were probably fixed already. Check the 2015 SIT and if it’s wrong report it and if not then I guessed right that this was done earlier.
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Hydran DGX: Conversion cost from DG should be updated to "5+3.5" to reflect changed DG fighter factors. -James Lowry 25 Jan 2012
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SVC: I am running out of time so I’m not going to check any more of these that were probably fixed already. Check the 2015 SIT and if it’s wrong report it and if not then I guessed right that this was done earlier.
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Hydran LBX: Conversion cost from LB should be updated to "5+3.5" to reflect changed LB fighter factors. -James Lowry 25 Jan 2012
STRONG: Concurs with all above.
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SVC: I am running out of time so I’m not going to check any more of these that were probably fixed already. Check the 2015 SIT and if it’s wrong report it and if not then I guessed right that this was done earlier.
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Guys, I’m not upset, but I am out of time, so I did not check that stuff after the first several were already changed. I’m going to assume they all were so go recheck the ones I said I did not check.

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Saturday, May 02, 2015 - 05:09 pm: Edit

DONE 27 APRIL 2017

Hydran: War Destroyers: DWE: Factors: 5-6(1) Escort Symbol/3 Escort Symbol should be 5-6(1) Escort Symbol/3(0.5) Escort Symbol. (501.23) added half factors in F&E. Fighter Operations introduced the half fighter factors before that. The DWE was not updated to reflect this change previously. Thomas Mathews 2 May 2015

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Sunday, January 08, 2017 - 01:43 pm: Edit

FIXED 27 APRIL 2017

Hydrans: Destroyers: SR: Factors 2-6(2)/1-3(1) should be 2-6(1) Survey Symbol/1-3(0.5). The SSD has 2 fighters equalling 1 fighter factor for the uncrippled SR. Thomas Mathews 8 Jan 2017

Hydrans: Destoryers: SR: For DD 11+2 should read: For DD 11+1. The SR is not a carrier and uses hybrid fighter factors at the rate of 1 EP per fighter factor under (432.24). Thomas Mathews 8 Jan 2017

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Saturday, February 18, 2017 - 07:45 pm: Edit

FIXED 27 APRIL 2017

Hydrans: Frigates: CVE: Factors: 2-4(3)/1-2(2) should be 2-4(3)/1-2(1.5) 3 divided by 2 is 1.5 and the CVE counter has 1.5 fighter factors on the crippled side. Thomas Mathews 18 Feb 2017

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Sunday, February 26, 2017 - 07:34 pm: Edit

FIXED 27 APRIL 2017

Hydrans: Monitors & Pallets: MPAL(SCS): Cost: 5+6 should be 5+6+PFs. The cost of the PFs is missing from the actual cost of the pallet. Thomas Mathews 26 Feb 2017

By Ryan Opel (Ryan) on Sunday, February 26, 2017 - 07:52 pm: Edit

FIXED 27 APRIL 2017

MMG. Change availability to Y132. In notes Free MMGs available per (321.11) during General War. This is a rule change in (657.432). Ryan J Opel 26 Feb 2017

By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Saturday, April 01, 2017 - 10:08 pm: Edit

FIXED 27 APRIL 2017

MNL Sub text "Sub MR: 30+9" should be "Sub MNR: 30+9 - Howard Bampton 2017-04-01

MNR Build cost & YIS should reference (436.0) - Howard Bampton 2017-04-01

BBV Build cost & YIS should reference (436.0) - Howard Bampton 2017-04-01

SDS Build cost & YIS should reference (436.0) - Howard Bampton 2017-04-01

MNL Build cost & YIS should reference (436.0) - Howard Bampton 2017-04-01

By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Sunday, April 02, 2017 - 08:56 pm: Edit

FIXED 27 APRIL 2017

ID (4ID) - Most (all?) carrier groups reference "individual ships" in conversion column. This one does not. Howard Bampton 2017-04-02

NCV (3NCV) - Most (all?) carrier groups reference "individual ships" in conversion column. This one does not. Howard Bampton 2017-04-02

UH (4UH) - Most (all?) carrier groups reference "individual ships" in conversion column. This one does not. Howard Bampton 2017-04-02

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, April 04, 2017 - 01:23 pm: Edit

FIXED 27 APRIL 2017

BB Cost for fighters missing when built, should be "(436.0): 36 + 9" - Howard Bampton, 2017-04-03

LP Build & conversion costs for PFs missing- add glyph - Howard Bampton 2017-04-03

OM Build & conversion costs for PFs missing- add glyph - Howard Bampton 2017-04-03

DCS (Sioux) Build & conversion costs for PFs missing- add glyph - Howard Bampton 2017-04-03

MKP Build & conversion costs for PFs missing- add glyph - Howard Bampton 2017-04-03

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, April 04, 2017 - 01:24 pm: Edit

FIXED 27 APRIL 2017

PFT Conversion costs for PFs missing- add glyph - Howard Bampton 2017-04-03

NPF Build & conversion costs for PFs missing- add glyph - Howard Bampton 2017-04-03

DDP Build & conversion costs for PFs missing- add glyph - Howard Bampton 2017-04-03

PFP Build & conversion costs for PFs missing- add glyph - Howard Bampton 2017-04-03

PTP Build & conversion costs for PFs missing (2 sets of PFs)- add glyph - Howard Bampton 2017-04-03

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, April 04, 2017 - 01:24 pm: Edit

FIXED 27 APRIL 2017

Multiple "+PFS" used in several places instead of glyph - Howard Bampton 2017-04-03

MPAL(SCS) Build costs for PFs missing- add glyph - Howard Bampton 2017-04-03

HAA factors are shown as "3-8-1-4" instead of "3-8/1-4" suspect this has propagated through several other (all?) SITS. - Howard Bampton 2017-04-03

ASC Build & conversion costs for PFs missing- add glyph - Howard Bampton 2017-04-03

LAP Build & conversion costs for PFs missing- add glyph - Howard Bampton 2017-04-03

SAP Build & conversion costs for PFs missing- add glyph - Howard Bampton 2017-04-03

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 - 09:23 pm: Edit

I AM PRETTY SURE THAT IS WHAT THE COUNTERS SAY, SO LIVE WITH IT.

Hydran SAR: This unit has a crippled defense factor of 3 in the SIT. However, the CR (which is a SAR with a hellbore replacing a fusion beam) has a crippled defense rating of 2. Is the SAR crippled defense factor correct? Richard Eitzen 4/25/17

By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Wednesday, April 26, 2017 - 11:59 am: Edit

FIXED 27 APRIL 2017

HAP Scout missing from note: "Auxiliary PFT, Scout, EW=2" - Howard Bampton 2017-04-25

HSC Scout missing from note: "Auxiliary SCS, Scout, EW=2" - Howard Bampton 2017-04-25

LAS Nonstandard EW notation. Alternative: "Large Auxiliary Scout; EW=3" - Howard Bampton 2017-04-25

LAP Nonstandard EW notation, upcassing scout to Scout while there. Alternative: "Large Auxiliary PFT (526.4), Scout, EW=2" - Howard Bampton 2017-04-25

SAS Nonstandard EW notation. Alternative: "Small Auxiliary Scout, EW=2" - Howard Bampton 2017-04-25

By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Wednesday, April 26, 2017 - 12:00 pm: Edit

FIXED EARLIER

Hydran HGN - designation is in Hydran SIT. "Hydran" is redundant. - Howard Bampton 2017-04-25

Hydran HGV - designation is in Hydran SIT. "Hydran" is redundant. - Howard Bampton 2017-04-25

PFP Nonstandard EW notation. Alternative: "PF Tender Pallet; Scout; EW=2; max two in service." - Howard Bampton 2017-04-25

By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Wednesday, April 26, 2017 - 12:01 pm: Edit

SENT TO RYAN 27 april 2017

Hydran HGN - This unit appears to be a hybrid CV, not a "true" CV. That would suggest that FTR cost should be "+1.5", not "+3" Staff? "For FF: 3+1.5" - Howard Bampton 2017-04-25

Hydran HGV - If HGN FTR cost adjusted, then conversion cost for this unit needs fixed too: "From HGN: 2+14.5" - Howard Bampton 2017-04-25

By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Wednesday, April 26, 2017 - 12:02 pm: Edit

FIXED 27 APRIL 2017

PGR Unit is scout, note missing (survey implies this, but other SRs say SR+SC): "Survey variant of Pegasus, Scout, EW=2." - Howard Bampton 2017-04-25

PFT Nonstandard EW notation. Alternative: "PF Tender, Scout, EW=2" - Howard Bampton 2017-04-25

NPF Nonstandard EW notation. Alternative: "PF Tender, Scout, EW=2" - Howard Bampton 2017-04-25

FLG (INS) Nonstandard EW notation. Alternative: "Police Flagship, Scout, EW=1, Commando Ship (one battalion)." - Howard Bampton 2017-04-25

By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Wednesday, April 26, 2017 - 12:02 pm: Edit

DONE LONG AGO
LHE PF cost for conversion not accounted for: "From LB: 5+10.5+PF glyph, From LM/LC: 5+9+PF glyph, From CV: 3+PF glyph" - Howard Bampton 2017-04-25

LHE PF cost for build not accounted for: "For CC: 13+12+PF glyph" - Howard Bampton 2017-04-25

By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Wednesday, April 26, 2017 - 12:02 pm: Edit

DONE 27 APRIL 2017

BBV Hull is conjectural. Adjust note: "Conjectural Battleship carrier" - Howard Bampton 2017-04-25

SDS Hull is conjectural. Adjust note: "Conjectural Stellar Domination Ship" - Howard Bampton 2017-04-25

MNL Hull is conjectural, spell out carrier while we are there. Adjust note: "Conjectural Fast Battleship, Hybrid carrier" - Howard Bampton 2017-04-25

By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Thursday, April 27, 2017 - 11:31 am: Edit

RED DIAMONDS DONE 27 APRIL 2017

PGR Unit is SR. Factor Diamond should be red. - Howard Bampton 2017-04-26

SR Unit is SR. Factor Diamond should be red. - Howard Bampton 2017-04-26

SRG Unit is SR. Factor Diamond should be red. - Howard Bampton 2017-04-26

SRV Unit is SR. Factor Diamond should be red. - Howard Bampton 2017-04-26

By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Thursday, April 27, 2017 - 11:32 am: Edit

RED DIAMONDS DONE 27 APRIL 2017


PIV Unit is SR. Factor Diamond should be red. - Howard Bampton 2017-04-26

MSR Unit is SR. Factor Diamond should be red. - Howard Bampton 2017-04-26

MSV (MSRV) Unit is SR. Factor Diamond should be red. - Howard Bampton 2017-04-26

By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Thursday, April 27, 2017 - 11:33 am: Edit

DONE 27 APRIL 2017
PIG unit is scout. Note does not include said. Try: "Commando variant of survey ship, Scout, EW=3" - Howard Bampton 2017-04-26

PIG Unit is SR. Factor Diamond should be red. - Howard Bampton 2017-04-26

PIC Unit is SR. Factor Diamond should be red. - Howard Bampton 2017-04-26

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