09-Hydran Order of Battle Discussions

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Hydran Order of Battle  1   11/23 03:18pm

By Ryan Opel (Feast) on Saturday, June 22, 2019 - 06:46 pm: Edit

All items corrected. Topic remains open.

By Garth L. Getgen (Sgt_G) on Monday, June 08, 2020 - 10:29 pm: Edit


Quote:

FIRST FLEET: Set up in 0915, 1116, 1219, and/or 1017.


So, they deploy at the BATS along the Klingon border, but why not at the BATS in 1217 ?????


Garth L. Getgen

By Richard Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Monday, June 08, 2020 - 11:04 pm: Edit

Because the Hydrans don't like that base?

By Ryan Opel (Feast) on Tuesday, June 09, 2020 - 01:34 am: Edit

That's a typo on my part. I will post updated version later today.

By Nick Samaras (Koogie) on Tuesday, June 16, 2020 - 02:24 am: Edit

Hydran Auxiliary Table: LAS date should be Spring Y160 as per SIT. (Nick Samaras, June 16, 2020)

By Nick Samaras (Koogie) on Tuesday, June 16, 2020 - 01:37 pm: Edit

Hydran LAP and SAP differ from each other. SIT lists as Fall Y179 for both. (Nick Samaras, June 16, 2020)

By Nick Samaras (Koogie) on Tuesday, June 16, 2020 - 02:12 pm: Edit

Raid section missing entry one special raids. Hydrans allowed one. (Nick Samaras, June 16, 2020).

By Nick Samaras (Koogie) on Wednesday, June 17, 2020 - 12:16 am: Edit

I think the Hydran LAP and SAP should be Spring Y180 (second PF turn).

By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Monday, April 05, 2021 - 11:58 am: Edit

Ryan: Can you add either a reference to or the full PGS release notes from 317.4 to the Hydran OOB describing how the PGS are released? This maybe should go in the Special Production notes regarding PG_ hulls.

Separately there was some discussion on this very BBS (and a ruling) about @start PGS and PG_ production limits that may also warrant a small table (or at least a note) for clarity.

Thanks!

By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Monday, April 12, 2021 - 07:39 pm: Edit

Sorry but to clarify what should be added to the OOB is the part of the rule that is actually a rule and not a description.

"317.4 Hydran Pegasus: The Hydrans have four of these ships in the off-map area, three of which can be brought onto the map (one per turn) starting with Turn #1 or any later turn at the Hydran Player's option. The fourth PGS cannot be brought onto the map until it is converted into a PFT."

Reading the rule makes me want to ask if there is a SFB scenario called "The the Fourth Horseman" where the 4th Pegasus becomes a PFT and takes revenge on a coalition force...but I digress.

By Ryan Opel (Ryan) on Monday, April 12, 2021 - 11:13 pm: Edit

OLD COLONIES SQUADRON: Deploy off-map. This fleet is not released unless the capital is attacked or a starbase is destroyed. See (317.4) for release of the PGS ships.

By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Tuesday, April 13, 2021 - 01:21 pm: Edit

Better than nothing, but it seems that all other PGS info is there, why not just add the release notes?

Reduced down to this:
Hydran OC PGS: (317.4) First 3 can be brought onto the map (one per turn) starting with Turn #1 or any later turn at the Hydran Player's option. The 4th PGS is not released until it is converted into a PFT.

By Ryan Opel (Feast) on Sunday, June 13, 2021 - 05:15 pm: Edit

Add note on the cost of the activated cost of the Hydran PAL in Y170S.

By Jason E. Schaff (Jschaff297061) on Monday, November 22, 2021 - 01:01 pm: Edit

X-technology introduction date is currently listed as "Y182S (turn #27)"

Should be one or the other of:

"Y182S (turn#28)"
"Y181F (turn#27)"

I'm not sure which one of these is intended.

By Graham Cridland (Grahamcridland) on Monday, July 18, 2022 - 01:09 pm: Edit

Copied from Q&A discussions, where it came up but didn't belong:

In my current game it appears that the Kzinti capital will fall and the Hydran capital will not (at least, probably not immediately).

So in 709.211 and 709.213, it says that if the capital DOES NOT fall (which is the only way the Hydrans will be producing ships in Y173 anyway...) The Hydrans use this schedule:

Y173S-Y176S: PAL,RN,3xCW,KN,3xDW,3xFF
Y173F-Y176F: CC,DG,3xCW,LN,3xDW,3xFF

Rather than the normal schedule in 709.211. This is obviously great since it trades 3xHN for 3xDW. However, it also -delays- the production of NCAs by a year (although conversions would remain available). Is that right? It seems odd that the Hydrans would produce an NCA sooner if and only if they lost their capital.

(Noting that in 709.211 starting in Y176 the Hydrans produce an NCA for one CW, as is the normal situation, but this is not duplicated in 709.213.)

By Daniel Glenn Knipfer (Dgknipfer) on Wednesday, January 24, 2024 - 03:41 pm: Edit

(709.11) Hydran Second Fleet; SA should be SAR to match counter and SIT.


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