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By Nick Samaras (Koogie) on Tuesday, May 16, 2017 - 11:02 pm: Edit

Step 3A5A does not account for the recent errata in CL 52 -"Hospital units may attempt to restore raid casualties (451.32)".(Nick Samaras, May 15, 2017)

PHASE 5-3 (page 4): Header is missing double bars. (Nick Samaras, May 15, 2017)

5-4A2: There are other bases than SB and BATs that have variable EW. (Nick Samaras, May 15, 2017)
FEDS: All three issues above fixed.

Step 5-6X8 does not account for the recent errata in CL 52 -"Hospital units may attempt to restore battle round casualties (451.32)".(Nick Samaras, May 15, 2017)
It's here:
5-6X5: Attempt to heal current battle round generated personnel casualties using employed hospital units (451.32).

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Friday, May 19, 2017 - 05:38 am: Edit

5-6X3 add: or Gorn Special Attack (308.87) after assignments (521.36). The Gorns may use a special form of a G attack if they meet the requirements under (308.87) in lieu of a standard G attack. Thomas Mathews 19 May 2017

5-6X4 add: or Gorn Special Attack (308.87) after assaults (521.3). The Gorns may use a special form of a G attack if they meet the requirements under (308.87) in lieu of a standard G attack. Thomas Mathews 19 May 2017

FEDS: Edited SoP to read:

5-6X3: Make ground assault assignments (521.36); Gorns may choose to make Special Attack (308.87) assignments in lieu of standard assaults if qualified.
5-6X4: Conduct ground assaults (521.34) or Gorn Special Attack (308.87) if qualified; determine fate of prime teams used in support of ground assaults (522.42).

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 09:40 pm: Edit

2B7: (509.35) should read (509.32) except those missions restricted by (509.35). (509.32) covers the designation of tug missions while (509.35) covers missions that are specifically prohibited. Thomas Mathews 24 May 2017

2B7: Delete including all units assigned supply point missions (509.1D). Tugs may only be supply point mission (509.1D) during Phase 1D Conduct Administrative Actions. Specifically 1D3. Thomas Mathews 24 May 2017
FEDS: Does the following changes make it more clear?:

PHASE 1D: CONDUCT ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIONS
1D3: Declare missions for [FEDS add: "existing"] tugs and other transports (509.32).

PHASE 2B: PRODUCTION ACTIONS
2B7: Assign missions to new tugs and transports (509.32) excluding supply point (509.1D) and installation support (509.1J) missions; see (509.35).


NOTE to FEDS: Change prompted by Q&A here by Peter B. and continues to the next two archive dates after the link.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Thursday, May 25, 2017 - 07:22 pm: Edit

All above line items addressed; corrected SoP posted.

FEDS SENDS

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Wednesday, November 08, 2017 - 08:39 am: Edit

2A4: add "Flip crippled Bases with SIDS (308.8) less than the required number to be crippled." Bases with SIDS less than the number required to cripple them use their full strength combat values under (308.83). Thomas Mathews 8 Nov 2017

NOTE to FEDS: This issue has come up previously, most recently on the F&E facebook group page.

FEDS: Fixed and posted on Master SoP 2019 v1 on 27 Oct 2019.

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Wednesday, November 08, 2017 - 11:48 am: Edit

5-3D Carrier and other escort groups (515.15) should read: Carrier (515.14) and other escort groups (515.16). (515.15) is an incorrect reference for the formation of carrier groups and other escort groups are covered under (515.16). Thomas Mathews 8 Nov 2017
FEDS: Fixed and posted on Master SoP 2019 v1 on 27 Oct 2019.

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Friday, October 26, 2018 - 12:46 pm: Edit

5-4A1 Reference to (518.4) should be (518.41). (518.41) is the specific SWAC mission regarding electronic warfare (EW). Thomas Mathews 26 Oct 2018
FEDS: Fixed and posted on Master SoP 2019 v1 on 27 Oct 2019.

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Thursday, February 28, 2019 - 06:26 am: Edit

2A2 "or FRXs (523.451)." should read ", FRXs (523.451) or LTFs (526.261)." add reference to to the Logistical Task Forces which can also repair units during the repair step. Thomas Mathews 28 Feb 2019
FEDS: Fixed and posted on Master SoP 2019 v1 on 27 Oct 2019.

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Thursday, February 28, 2019 - 06:26 am: Edit

2A2 "or FRXs (523.451)." should read ", FRXs (523.451) or LTFs (526.261)." add reference to to the Logistical Task Forces which can also repair units during the repair step. Thomas Mathews 28 Feb 2019
FEDS: Fixed and posted on Master SoP 2019 v1 on 27 Oct 2019.

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Friday, June 21, 2019 - 08:25 am: Edit

5-5B Cloaked decoys may be should read Cloaked decoys (538.4) may be. Add reference to cloaked decoys diverting a directed damage attack. Thomas Mathews 21 Jun 2019
FEDS: Fixed and posted on Master SoP 2019 v1 on 27 Oct 2019.

By Ted Fay (Catwhoeatsphoto) on Monday, December 09, 2019 - 11:38 am: Edit

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By Ted Fay (Catwhoeatsphoto) on Monday, December 09, 2019 - 11:52 am: Edit

Step 3A2G (normal raids):

This step needs to be updated in view of Chuck's ruling about 5 years ago that an alternative attack may be conducted against a ship that elected to retreat during the reaction battle at step 3A2D. The reason why is that retreat is *conducted* at step 3A2F, and if the alternative attack is performed at step 3A2G, then ostensibly there are no more raiding units to attack in the hex - in contradiction to the ruling.

Suggest, specifically, that step 3A2G be modified to strike the following from step 3A2G: "or conduct alternative attack (314.28) if eligible".

Suggest, specifically, that step 3A2E be modified to add the following: "Eligible raiders that conduct an "alternative attack" (314.28) perform the alternative attack at this step."

These two changes will effectively codify Chuck's ruling in the SoP.

It may also be worth adjusting 314.28 in the next rules update to indicate that the alternative attack may be conducted against a unit that elected to retreat during the reaction battle.

Ted Fay 9 December 2019

By Rob Padilla (Zargan) on Monday, December 09, 2019 - 12:06 pm: Edit

This was Chuck's update from 2014:

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Thursday, March 06, 2014 - 08:46 pm: Edit

FEDS COMMENTARY:

It is clear that the intent of the alternative attack under (314.28) is to allow a raider to rapidly engage a target of opportunity in the raid hex BEFORE raid target hex units retreat. in essence, it is a quasi-pursuit round before retreat where the raider gets an alternative attack against a target of choice (without it actually being a pursuit round).

FEDS NOTIONAL SOP CLARIFICATION (OPEN FOR COMMENT)

3A - STEP 2: NORMAL RAIDS

3A-2A: Specify locations and roll to determine outcome of sabotage and infiltration (537.1).

3A-2B: Designate and move normal raiding ships to raid target hexes (314.21); move Espionage and Sabotage Prime Teams to their target hex (534.15).

3A-2C: Target empire may use Reaction Movement to respond to raids (314.241) OR may call up, if eligible, police ships to fight raiders (314.243), but not both.

3A-2D: Target empire declares which units will fight the raider (314.251).

3A-2E: Raiding ships/reacting units conduct one round of small-scale combat (314.244); see exceptions in (318.7).

3A-2F: Raiders crippled or retreating are returned to raiding pool (314.244).

3A-2G: Raid response units choosing to retreat identify retreat hex.

3A-2H: Conduct specified raid actions:

3A-2H1: Record disrupted locations from raiding (314.27) or conduct alternate attack (314.28) if eligible.

3A-2H2: Identify, conduct, and resolve Espionage and Sabotage Missions in target hex (534.12).

3A-2J: Return raiders to raiding pool (314.273).

3A-2K: Retreat raid response units and alternative attack survivors (as appropriate) to retreat hex identified in step 3A-2G.

Not that I agree with it, I don't think it was needed but it was official, so who am I to argue :)

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Tuesday, December 10, 2019 - 01:17 pm: Edit

Ted and Rob:

Unless overruled by ADB, I will resolve this issue this way:



Quote:


3A2: NORMAL RAIDS

3A2A: Designate and move:
Normal raiding ships to raid target hexes (314.21).
Espionage and Sabotage (E&S) prime teams to their target hexes (534.15); pay 2 EP for each attempt.
3A2B: Target empire may use reaction movement to respond to raids (314.241) OR may call up, if eligible, police ships to fight raiders (314.243), but not both.
3A2C: Target empire declares which ships will fight the raider (314.251).
3A2D: Raiding ships and reacting units conduct one round of small-scale combat (SSC) (314.244) if permitted.
3A2E: Raiders crippled or forced to retreat are returned to the raid pool (314.244).
3A2F: Raided hex units choosing to retreat identify retreat hex.
3A2G: Raider records raid disrupted locations (314.27) or conducts alternate attack (314.28) if eligible.
3A2H: Conduct E&S missions (including fate of prime teams):
Disruption (534.21): production, economics, or movement.
Sabotage (534.22): bases, ships, or attrition units.
Assassination (534.23) of key personnel.
Stealing (534.24) including recovering/hijacking ships.
3A2J: Conduct resistance movement sabotage attacks (537.11) on occupying PDUs, PGBs, and IDUs; include effects and fate of any E&S sabotage support prime teams sent (534.233). (Occupied neutral planets are exempted).
3A2K: Return surviving raiding ships to raiding pool (314.273).
3A2L: Retreat raided hex units to retreat hex identified in step 3A2F or alternative attack survivors (as appropriate).



FEDS SENDS

By Ted Fay (Catwhoeatsphoto) on Tuesday, December 10, 2019 - 01:37 pm: Edit

Chuck, OK. You might want to update accordingly the SoP downloadable from the BBS.

FEDS: Done.

By Rob Padilla (Zargan) on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 - 01:16 pm: Edit

Questions:

10G:
This is the only time other than 10F where the defecit is calculated for the Non-Phasing player. THe other 3 checks A, B and C are Phasing player ONLY. Should these checks apply to both players?

Also, why is the Non-Phasing Player being punished for using defecit spending? Step 10G says:
"Record the largest defecit of points (A-D) for the entire turn; this debt value is used during the next turn for debt interest calculations."
The Phasing player can do Drone Bombardment, E&S Missions, adding barracks modules or Independent G's, do Rapid Combat Repair and NOT have any of those numbers increase their Debt (like it should), since their next Check after the Production Step (B) is at the very end of the turn in 10E.

5-3J says: "Pay Drone Bombardment costs...."
If the player does not have EPs in the bank, then they MUST borrow to be able to perform Drone Bombardment. Which either adds to Advanced Defecit Spending (and thus costs interest), or it is paid for under the older Defecit Spending and pay no interest. Since at the time Drone Bombardment is used it must be paid for, shouldn't it increase the Debt as the costs are incurred?

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 - 03:58 pm: Edit

The ENTIRE turn include both player turns.

The first two checks are during the phasing player's econ and production phases; the non-phasing player has no econ or production actions when the phasing player does.

Defiect check D in a non-phasing player deficit check that occurs at the end of the turn PHASING players turn. Both player make these checks: Check C is the PHASING PLAYER'S check; Check D is the NON-Phasing Player's check.

Carefully read the SoP and you will see they are there.

By Jeffrey Coutu (Jtc) on Sunday, February 14, 2021 - 10:17 am: Edit

I believe the following rule references should be changed as I suggest below:
3A3B: Change (320.311) to (320.32).
3A3C: Change (320.314) to (320.323).
3A3D3: Change (3201.341) to (320.341).
5-3B: Change 5-3L to 5-3M.

The following have minor typos:
3A3D4: Remove ending "f".
3A3F2: Add period at end.

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Friday, August 06, 2021 - 10:18 am: Edit

(105.0) 5-1C: The non-phasing player conducts withdrawal [unopposed (302.12); opposed (302.13)] using retreat procedures in Phase 5-7 below. Non-phasing Romulans may use cloaked decoys to further withdraw after other ships have withdrawn (538.53). See withdrawing X-ships (523.36) and fast ships (525.133); Romulans secretly assign and record the location of all cloaked decoys (538.31); assignments cannot be changed between combat rounds. Should read: 5-1C: The non-phasing player conducts withdrawal [unopposed (302.12); opposed (302.13)] using retreat procedures in Phase 5-7 below. Romulans secretly assign and record the location of all cloaked decoys (538.31); assignments cannot be changed between combat rounds. Non-phasing Romulans may use cloaked decoys to further withdraw after other ships have withdrawn (538.53). See withdrawing X-ships (523.36) and fast ships (525.133). Reason: Cloaked Decoys must be assigned before they can be used for the purpose of withdrawing further Romulan ships. Thomas Mathews 6 July 2021


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