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Star Fleet Universe Discussion Board: Federation & Empire: F&E INPUT: F&E Reports from the Front: Inactive Scenarios: And Now For Something Completely Different - Part Deux: Archive through November 06, 2017
By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Tuesday, October 24, 2017 - 08:44 am: Edit

CT6

Movement done!

In Kzinti space, the Coalition piled on 1401 (where most of the Kzinti fleet is), are attacking 1502 with an equivalent sized force where they may or may not have an edge; are retaking 1504 with a large Lyran force and no opposition, and sent small groups of ships to retake planets 1001 and 1202, but the Kzinti sent a reserve to each, which will see a couple of dead FFs.

Combat to follow.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Tuesday, October 24, 2017 - 09:09 pm: Edit

CT6

Combat is underway!

In Kzinti space, the Coalition recaptured planets 1502, 1504, and devastated all the planets in the Kzinti Capital, except for the homeworld (which still has 18PDU and a SB). They failed to take back planets 1001 and 1202. They lost a couple cruisers, some FFs, and killed a LAS.

In Hydran space, the Coalition have, so far, recaptured planets 0416, 0718, killed BATS 0315, and have just started fighting over the Hydran SB in the capital (all other planets are devastated).

Combat continues.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Wednesday, October 25, 2017 - 09:08 am: Edit

CT6

The Coalition is fighting over the Hydran capital starbase. On the first round, the Coalition had, like, 125 compot, 11EW; the Hydrans were at 179 and 7EW. Coalition rolled high, Hydrans rolled low and had a negative shift. Coalition mauled a LB and killed about 20 fighters (the Hydrans have a total of 197 in the hex from the start). The Hydrans still managed to do exactly 36 damage a blew up a C8 that was on the line. Ouch. On the upside, the mauler didn't shock out.

On to R2!

By Jason Langdon (Jaspar) on Wednesday, October 25, 2017 - 08:20 pm: Edit

In R2 the Hydrans again rolled a 1 which again was shifted down a lot, and the Coalition rolled well.

Another LB was blown up plus a CU crippled and fighters lost, and the Hydrans managed to kill a D5S to hopefully get rid of the horrible EW difference.

Peters looks to have settled on the "kill all the Hydran cruisers and then take the SB easily" approach. If he continues to roll well this will work well.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Thursday, October 26, 2017 - 09:58 am: Edit

CT6

Combat over the Hydran capital is 5 rounds in. So far, both sides have directed every round; the Coalition have killed 3CCs and 2RNs; the Hydrans have shot down a C8, D6S, D6D, D6M, and probably something else this round. The Hydrans are down to about half of their fighters gone, and have a handful of crippled CUs. The Coalition have lost some fighters and taken 7 or 8 cripples on top of the dead.

I haven't been keeping track of numbers, but the Coalition have outrolled the Hydrans every round so far, except for the one round where we both got 6's. The Hydrans have had a -2EW shift most of the time.

Combat continues.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Friday, October 27, 2017 - 09:03 pm: Edit

CT6

Now 10 rounds into the fight over the Hydran Homeworld.

The Hydrans are almost out of fighters. They have taken 6 SIDS, lost 7 ships, have 14 cripples. The Coalition have lost 8+ ships (most of which are maulers or D6Ds), taken 20+ cripples, and are almost out of fighters.

It remains to be seen how long the Hydrans can keep fighting.

The Coalition have outrolled the Hydrans the majority of the rounds (although the Hydrans outrolled the Coalition at least 3 or 4 of the 10 so far), and the Hydrans have been shooting into a -1 or -2 EW shift the whole battle.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Saturday, October 28, 2017 - 03:42 pm: Edit

CT6

Combat is over at the Hydran Capital, with the Hydrans fleeing the system after 11 rounds of combat. In the 11th round, the Coalition crippled the SB by direct killing the last SID; the Hydrans spite killed the scout bonus D6S, dropped the rest of their damage on 3 of 4 crippled SB SIDS and fled with most of their fleet intact but most of their fighters dead. R12, the Coalition killed the crippled SB and a few Auxes that were left behind. R13, the Lyrans annihilated a few remaining fleeing auxes (and a couple HNs as escorts) by picking 4+4 BIR, VBIR rolling up to 10, and then the Lyrans rolled a 6, doing 50% damage (61 points), vaporizing everything left at that point. It was kind of nuts.

In any case, here is the carnage for the fight:

Klingons Killed: C8, 2D6M, TGA+B+D, 2D6S, 4D6D

Klingons Crippled: 4D7C, D6M, D7, 6D5, AD5, F5L

Lyrans Killed: STT

Lyrans Crippled: 7CW, DW, SC

Hydrans Killed: 2LB, LM, 3RN, LN, 2HN, (LAS, 2SAS, 3SAV), SB

Hydrans Crippled: HR, TR, LN, 13CU

Klingons spent 1CP, 13.2 EP on DBB. Hydrans spent 1CP, emptied FCP.

The Klingons lost a significant number of important ships, but didn't get a ton crippled. The Hydrans lost 6 cruisers (and most of their Aux fleet), but still have a robust fleet of ships--their Home Fleet (which just fled) consists of 60 uncrippled ships including 2PAL, 2LGE, 15 ships HR or bigger, a few carrier groups, and both the supply TG and the scout TG. They also have a fleet over SB 0215 of another two dozen ships, including a few more cruisers. So while the Hydrans aren't doing super hot or anything, they still are a significant menace.

The dice over the Hydran capital seemd like it very much favored the Coalition this time around, although in final analysis, the Coalition really only rolled marginally better. Not counting the last two rounds of combat (vs the crippled SB and the Aux destruction), the Coalition rolled an average of 3.72 while the Hydrans rolled an average of 3.36.

The Hydrans did have a -1 or -2 EW shift the entire fight, however.

A few more small fights left, and then on to AT6!

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Saturday, October 28, 2017 - 05:45 pm: Edit

CT6

And the turn is over!

In Kzinti space, the Coalition devastated all the planets in the Kzinti capital hex except for Kzintai (which has 18PDU and a SB over it) and recaptured most of Kzinti space. The Kzinti fleet is mostly in 1401, but there are a couple modest fleets (mid sized reserve forces) in 1001 and 1202. The Coalition have a big fleet in 1506, strong fleet over the SB in 1407, reasonable fleets in 1503 and 1504, and then numerous province garrison groups. There are about 50 ships at BATS 1807, including two reasonable reserves. There is a pretty solid Lyran reserve in 0707, and the Klingons moved about 35 ships to BATS 2416 over by the south edge of Fed space.

In Hydran space, the Coalition captured the Hydran capital, all Hydran planets outside of the Capital, and most of Hydran space. Most of the Coalition fleet is in 0617 (the Hydran main fleet is in 0518). They have about 30 ships over SB 0411, a few dozen ships over 1013, where the Coalition spent 48EPs doing field repair (and there are still 6 or 7 cripples there). The Lyrans also have a 4 or 5 ship reserve in 1013.

Ships Killed:
-Kzinti: (LAS)
-Hydran: 2LB, LM, 3RN, LN, 2HN, (LAS, 2SAS, 3SAV)

-Lyran: STT, CW, FF
-Klingon: C8, TGA+B+D, D7C, 2D6M, 4D6D, 2D6S, F5S, E4

The Klingons made, like, 31EPs in salvage. Yeesh.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Tuesday, October 31, 2017 - 07:56 pm: Edit

AT6

The Alliance economies are mostly crushed; the Hydrans have, like, 5 points of on map income and the Old Colonies; they built a couple CUs. The Kzinti built a CV, some CM hulls of various types, and a bunch of FFs.

Movement is done. In Hydran space, the Hydrans are striking to take back most of their captured planets, and have attacked 0617; it remains to be seen how hard they will fight for 0617. In Kzinti space, the Kzinti are also recapturing most of their space, and have attacked Klingon BATS 0906 which may or may not get saved by an arriving Lyran reserve force.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Thursday, November 02, 2017 - 06:57 pm: Edit

AT6

Combat is over!

In Kzinti space, the Kzinti retook most of their space, recapturing planets 1001, 1105, 1202, 1502; most provinces are unoccupied. They attacked Klingon BATS 0906, but were repulsed by a Lyran reserve. The Coalition managed to keep control of planet 1504 and a couple provinces.

In Hydran space, the Hydrans retook planets 0416 and 0519, but their attack on the Capital hex was either a planned feint, or was aborted when in the first round of combat, the Coalition managed to kill the only Hydran good scout, doing enough damage to direct a scout tug in the scout box. The Hydrans retreated, having killed a Lyran BC in return.

Ships Killed:
Kzinti: DD, EFF
Hydran: TG+SP

Lyran: BC, DW, 2FF
Klingon: D7, 3E4

Retrogrades, etc. to follow.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 10:48 am: Edit

AT6

The turn is over!

The Hydrans have pretty much every ship they own (90 ships, not counting auxes) on top of SB 0215 and then 16 cripples and a few HNs off map. They also still have 2BATS alive on the map, and liberated both on map minor planets. The Hydrans have no reserve fleets.

The Kzinti have most of their fleet in 1401, about 45 ships (including a reserve) on SB 1704, and a modest reserve off map.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 10:59 am: Edit

That is the end of the first chunk of the scenario. We are continuing on, but just for the sake of looking at the scenario victory conditions:

Kzinti economy is currently 59.

Hydran economy is currently 27.

Alliance total economy: 86

Alliance Battle Stations Destroyed: 30 (Counting SB as 3)

Coalition Battle Stations Destroyed: 0

So the Alliance economy is less than 90 and the Coalition has destroyed at least 20 Battle Stations, so we currently have a Tactical Victory.

As of the start of CT7, I have the ability to make a moderate but not overwhelming attack on the Feds should I decide to do that; I hold the Hydran capital, but the Hydrans still have 90 ships on SB 0215, which is a problem. The Kzinti have a large and growing fleet. We'll see how it goes from here.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 11:00 am: Edit

CT7

y171 FA T7

Lyran Econ:

Command Points: 2+1=3

Exploration: 56+11=67 (+3, 80 next)

Treasury: 8.95

On Map (56): 56
Off Map (24): 30
Capital (35): 35
Captured: 5.2
Salvage: 4.75

Total: 139.9

Construction T7:
-10 BC
-8 TGC
-20 4CW
-6 DWS
-8 2DW
-7.5 3FF (0404, 0411, 1407)
-15 3FF (overbuild)
-5 CoPo

Construction Total: 79.5

Conversions:
-5 CA>STT (0408)
-3 DD>SC, FF>FFE (1407)
-2 DD>SC (0411)

Conversion Total: 10

Repairs:
-12 (3D7C, D6M, D5, F5L 1013)
-5 (F5L, DW, 2F5 0411)

Repair Total: 17

Expeditionary Fleet: 3 (12 ships; BC, CC, 3CW, 3DD, JGP, CWE, DWE, SC 1407)

Total Spent: 109.5

Treasury: 30.4

FFF Left: 0

Salvage:

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Klingon Econ:

Command Points: 4+2=6 (buy, IWR)

Exploration: 35+5=40 (+2, 60 next)

B10: 11+6=17

Treasury: 70.25

On Map (93): 92
Off Map (0): 4
Capital (49): 49
Captured: 11.6
Salvage: 4.275

Total: 231.125

Construction T7:
-9 D7C
-8 TGA (sub D7)
-10 D6M (sub D6)
-12 2AD5
-7 MD5
-8 D5S
-25 5D5
-8 2F5E
-3 F5 (2318)
-7.5 3E4 (sub F5)
-7.5 3E4 (1716, 1509)
-30 6E4 (overbuild)
-5 B10 #5
-4 BP
-5 CoPo

Construction Total: 149

Activations:
-2 2D6

Activation Total: 2

Conversions:
-4 D6>D6S (1411)
-3 D6>D6D (1411)
-1 F5>F5S (2318)

Conversion Total: 8

Repairs:
-2 (D7 1013)
-1 (E4 1807)

Repair Total: 3

Total Spent: 162

Treasury: 69.125

DBB:

FFF Left: 0

By Stewart Frazier (Frazikar2) on Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 09:14 pm: Edit

If you activated the IWR, you ARE attacking the Feds (703.21)...

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 10:39 pm: Edit

Uh, yes?

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 11:38 pm: Edit

You did imply previously that you might not be attacking the Feds.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Sunday, November 05, 2017 - 08:09 am: Edit

I guess? Sure?

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Sunday, November 05, 2017 - 08:24 am: Edit

I dunno that that required clarification, but thanks I guess?

I mean, *I* already knew I was attacking the Feds. And a little ambiguity in reporting seemed reasonable. Ya know. For the kids.

By Jason Langdon (Jaspar) on Sunday, November 05, 2017 - 05:36 pm: Edit

I disagree. I think you should reveal all of your war plans for the next 3 turns !

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Sunday, November 05, 2017 - 05:49 pm: Edit

I think they are all already revealed!

Step 1: Take the Hydran Capital, but make sure to not be able to keep it from the 100 Hydran ships that now threaten both the Capital and Lyran SB 0411.

Step 2: Make a weak attack on the Feds on T7 that doesn't accomplish all that much.

Step 3: Profit!

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Sunday, November 05, 2017 - 06:11 pm: Edit

Actually, use of the IWR is not revealed on turn 7 until 1 of 2 things happens. The Klingon Eastern Fleet enters Federation or Kzinti space, or the First Squadron of the IWR moves before the Eastern Fleet does during the Operational Movement Phase.

By Jason Langdon (Jaspar) on Sunday, November 05, 2017 - 07:24 pm: Edit

I tell ya... news of the invasion... Im shocked to be sitting here !

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Sunday, November 05, 2017 - 09:00 pm: Edit

I think it is revealed when the IWR takes any action it cannot while the Fed's haven't been attacked by the Klingons, or when the Klingons attack the Federation.

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Monday, November 06, 2017 - 06:51 am: Edit

No Richard, the IWR could be activated as 3 squadrons if a Kzinti or Hydran unit moves with in 1 hex of the Klingon capital. Otherwise it would be when the East FLeet invades the Federation (e.g. does not accept internment when entering the F-K Neutral Zone), or the IWR itself moves without provocation. See (703.122).

Given the each IWR squadron is full reserve fleet or something very close to one, it would not make sense to move the first IWR squadron at all. As repairs, new construction and the IWR squadrons can easily make 2 if not 3 or even 4 full sized solid reserve fleets to cause havoc on turns 7 to 9.

Ships in the IWR could be converted without issue if desired, but would not be available until released under (703.122).

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Monday, November 06, 2017 - 09:21 am: Edit

While all very interesting, could we move discussion of the IWR release status to general discussion?

In this game, the IWR was released on T7 'cause, well, the Klingons attacked the Feds. There was no mystery or confusion. All good.

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