I have read a few of the reports (interesting and helpful), soon I will be purchasing the F&E 2010 core set.

All good

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Friday, March 16, 2018 - 11:04 pm: Edit

CT15

Combat is underway. In Hydran space, the Coalition killed a KN in 0117, chasing the ships off the map, and traded frigates with the main Hydran fleet in 0418 before the Hydrans retreated back to planet 0519.

In Kzinti space, the Coalition took back planets 1001, 1504, 1802, and managed to luck out and not get an E4 blown up by a reserve NCA that was as a reserve flew over it (bad planning on my part).

Speaking of bad planning, on the Fed/Klingon front, the Klingons sent 7 ships to go kill BATS 2201, not noticing that it was in range of Kzinti reserves, that showed up (see above) and mangled the Klingons, blowing up a D6 and F5 (given up as self kills to avoid having 3 or 4 cripples and getting pursued) out of supply, so they provide no salvage. On the upside, the Klingons killed SB 2204, losing 2D6M and a D5S (killing an NCL, DWA, FF, and SAV along with the SB), again losing out on the salvage due to overextending themselves.

Combat continues.

By Paul Howard (Raven) on Saturday, March 17, 2018 - 03:47 am: Edit

Any reason why was 2204 underdefended/not covered by a reserve?

(Noting it was perhaps 7 hexes from a Coalition supply point!)

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Saturday, March 17, 2018 - 09:00 am: Edit

There were a lot of Coalition ships in range of Earth; he pulled defenses back, perhaps figuring that 2204 had served its purpose and could be let go?

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Saturday, March 17, 2018 - 12:47 pm: Edit

Which, now that I'm looking at the map, if his plan was put all the reserves in the Capital (just in case), and lure the Klingons away from range of Earth (by leaving SN 2204 just vulnerable enough), that totally worked; at the end of this turn, the Klingons will have predominantly moved out of range of Earth. The Romulans are closing in on the East side, but the bulk of Klingon forces are now 7+ hexes from Earth in the West.

By Jason Langdon (Jaspar) on Saturday, March 17, 2018 - 11:40 pm: Edit

It was a trade off. I had a lot of Fed ships in an aggressive mode last turn and had pulled them back towards Earth to be defensive.

I could have had another 10 or 12 ships moved there, or had more defensively set up Reserves, but then I could have been hit somewhere else instead.

Its Turn 15 so I think SB 2204 has done a pretty good job surviving. Id say most games it is gone by Turn 10.

And it took out 2xD6M and D5S for which Peter gets no salvage. So it did a pretty good job.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Sunday, March 18, 2018 - 09:53 am: Edit

Yeah, I wasn't planning on going for 2204, but then it looked like a good target this turn. But, as noted, it resulted in the Klingons over extending themselves, and losing out on a lot of salvage--this turn, we lost 2D6M, D6, D5S, F5E, F5 while out of supply (10.5 EPs out the window), 'cause I fought in 3 hexes that were 7+ away from supply points, due to bad planning (and me neglecting to notice that I was going to lose out on salvage in such instances, as I think this is the first time that has ever happened this game).

All of those ships except for the 5 survivors of the abortive, disasterous attack on BATS 2201 have retreated to 6 hexes from supply, and the other 5 ships will be in supply at the start of AT15 (due to captured planets), but, man, I need more supply points :-)

By Jason Langdon (Jaspar) on Sunday, March 18, 2018 - 05:17 pm: Edit

I suggest building MB within 6 hexes of Earth.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Sunday, March 18, 2018 - 05:42 pm: Edit

That's the ticket! Yeah!

Oh. Wait...

By Gregory S Flusche (Vandor) on Sunday, March 18, 2018 - 07:27 pm: Edit

Why destroy a Star Base? Why not capture it and replace the tech with yours? That would be cheaper in my opinion but then i do not play F&E.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Sunday, March 18, 2018 - 07:29 pm: Edit

You can't do that in this game.

By Gregory S Flusche (Vandor) on Monday, March 19, 2018 - 06:03 am: Edit

so make it a optional rule of some kind?

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Monday, March 19, 2018 - 06:13 am: Edit

One could easily implement such a rule, but it would probably cause a lot of problems to the 'stability' of a game.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Monday, March 19, 2018 - 10:55 am: Edit

Yeah, I don't know that that is necessary. And, well, we are here in the middle of a game where the rules are already established, so let's not worry about it.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Monday, March 19, 2018 - 11:09 am: Edit

CT15

Combat is over!

In Hydran space, not much changed. A couple small ships died, and the Hydran main fleet is still sitting on 0519 which is a partial grid, separate from the main, off map grid.

In Kzinti space, the Coalition took back planets 1001, 1504, 1802, recaptured some provinces, and fought a pinning action over SB 1704.

On the Fed/Klingon front, the Klingons killed SB 2204 in exchange for a handful of dead, salvage less cruisers; recaptured planet 2106 (as well as 1910 and 2214), and moved a big fleet to 2311.

On the Fed/Rom front, the Coalition captured major planet 3306, killed BATS 3806, and recaptured planets 3210 and 3706.

In Gorn space, the Romulans killed BATS 4408, 4506, and 4608.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Monday, March 19, 2018 - 06:21 pm: Edit

CT15

The turn is over!

In Hydran space, the Coalition have most of their fleet on 0617, about two dozen ships, including a solid reserve, on 0416.

In Kzinti space, the Coalition have two dozen ships on planet 1001, a dozen ships on planet 1105, a dozen ships on planet 1504, 30 ships on planet 1506, about 100 ships, including 2 solid reserves on SB 1407, and about 7 ships on planet 1802.

In the Fed/Klingon front, the Klingons have about 75 ships in 3 hexes around planet 2106; a few stranded ships up in 2302; about 50 ships in 2311; two solid reserves in 1811 and 1714; 20 Lyrans in 1911; 50 ships in 2715.

On the Fed/Romulan front, there are about 40 Klingons in 3210; 50 Romulans in 3509; a dozen ships in 3706; 10 ships in 3711.

On the Gorn front, the Romulans have 20 ships, including a reasonable reserve in 4010; 50 ships on 4309; 40 ships on 4411; a solid reserve in 4613; 30 ships on 4812; a 6 ship reserve on 4910.

Ships killed:
-LYR: DW
-KLI: E4A, (2D6M, D6, D5S, F5E, F5)
-ROM: 2SKE, BHE, SNB

-ZIN: 2FF
-HYD: KN, HN
-FED: 3NCL, DWA, FF, (SAV)
-GRN: CL, HD, (SAS)

Fed lost SB, BATS, 4PDU off captured major planet.

Gorn lost 3BATS.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Monday, March 19, 2018 - 06:28 pm: Edit

Map as of end of CT15:

http://www.lightlink.com/pdb6/SCD2mapCT15.html

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Monday, March 19, 2018 - 08:39 pm: Edit

Here comes exhaustion for the Coalition!

By Paul Howard (Raven) on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 03:19 am: Edit

Alas it also arrives for the Kzinti...

And the Hydrans already have bugger all income..

On Gregory's point - it perhaps could be included as a rule (a crippled SB may be captured with G's for example) - but totally agree with Richard - it would have a massive effect on the game - even if there was a large conversion cost, the gain would no doubt be pretty major.

By Jason Langdon (Jaspar) on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 03:41 am: Edit

Defenders would always scuttle.

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 07:07 am: Edit

Not arriving for the Kzintis yet.

I personally am respecting Peter's suggestion that we not worry about captured bases here.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 04:03 pm: Edit

Well, ya know, the Kzinti and Hydrans hit exhaustion on T16 just like the Coalition. The Kzinti just have one more turn right now to be at full econ.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 04:08 pm: Edit

Huh. And it turns out that the Kzinti Capital has recovered from its last devastation on CT11 this turn. So the Kzinti are going to be loaded on AT15. Yikes.

By Jason Langdon (Jaspar) on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 09:49 pm: Edit

Yay for money !

By Paul Howard (Raven) on Wednesday, March 21, 2018 - 03:37 am: Edit

Ouch for the Coalition.

Overlooked when it would recover or I am guessing 2204 was felt more important this turn?

Although it doesn't make much difference to re-devastate - 10 Directed or 3 directed to kill the RDU - I suppose the Kzinti would need to cripple an occasional ship and kill 18 fighters on the latter, so a slight boost for the Kzinti (on top of the extra Ep's this turn )?