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Well, Op moves have been completed
In the north - Strong forces attack 902, 1304 and 1504.
In the south - Strong forces attack 617 and modest forces attack 718, 716 and 519.
I avoided 215 and 416 this time as I didn't have the strength to attack them without a fair chance of success.
Kzinti front battles are done. Slack really speeds things up a lot.
The Count's SB was obviously doomed, with only 15 defending ships against 60+ attackers. The Kzinti took 7 SIDS on the first round. I was planning to fight a couple of rounds at 7 SIDS, but Paul scored the 8th one by dirdam on round 2. The Kzinti fought one more round then retreated.
The Duke already had 6 SIDS from last turn's battle. Had Paul tried to win the battle by attrition, he probably would have failed. So he scored 2 SIDS by dirdam. He then stayed one more round to inflict one more SIDS as the repair rules are unclear -- see Q&A for that.
So one SB is dead and the other is crippled. The good news for the Kzinti is that their fleet suffered only two ships killed and three crippled during the Coalition turn. So they will make a lot of progress on their crip backlog.
The repair rules are not unclear. I think y'all misunderstand them.
Essentially you have some strange confusion where you argue that since you CAN'T ever be out of supply on a friendly base, how can it ever be possible that the tug cannot repair it.
However, if you more closely examine the rules I posted, you see that in the case of a base in allied or enemy territory NOT connected to a supply grid of the owner's empire then that base doesn't supply ships (so in this case a tug could not repair it).
Your argument then goes away and now just follow the rules as written.
Anywho, the Kzinti SB in Kzinti space is always part of a supply grid of the owener's empire (partial grid) so supplies that Kzinti tug that wants to repair it (which can then do so presuming EPs are available).
Richard you may be correct. If one were reading the rules like a mathematical paper, you certainly would be. But I'm not confident of it because the way the rules are written, if that were the intent, I'd expect to see something saying so, just based on the way ADB typically writes.
Shrug, it's right there in the rules. It's going to be hard to get them to ignore that.
Battles - Hurrah - the Counts SB went down after only 3 rounds of fighting (I started directing on Kzinti ships infront of the crippled SB )- thanks to William taking the 7 SIDS.
Duke's wasn't so good - I think 2 or 3 heavy Lyran ships needed to be in 1304 instead of 902* - although after 3 rounds of fighting it has 3 SIDS left (and raised the base repair question).
* - 902 might have been slightly more painful though then!
Over 1504 - the crippled FF died allowing the Kzinti BC to escape - thereby ending the 3 northern fights.
Lyrans spent 1 CP (over 902) and lost a BC and CC. Klingons lost a F5E. Kzinti lost an EFF, SB and had a BC crippled.
Kzinti spent 1 CP (over 1304 - turned out well spent, the 8 SID was only just secured as William overcrippld a BT to get a -11!), Lyrans lost a CC in the perusit and Klingons have a stack of new cripples. Kzinti had a BT and 2 x CC crippled.
Counts Fleet (no fighters down) is out of supply in 1002.
Dukes fleet is down 6 fighters and sits on the crippled SB with 9 SIDS.
Dice have been pretty low for both sides - although I haven't rolled higher than a 4 (and William got a 6 in the pursuit damage roll!).
VBRI 4.14
Coalition 2.71
Kzinti 2.85
Fair dice at last!
So the Duke SB can be repaired (at a low low cost - speak to your local Orion dealer for this weeks special offer**)
** - Pay now - Pay later and later and later....
All forms of payment now taken... Cash, Gold pressed Latinum, Weapons, Arms, Legs, Tentacles, Souls.....
On a practical basis - one of the uncrippled Tugs would need to drop it's Pods which would then be stored at a damaged SB - and 2 SIDS needs to be repaired to uncrippled the SB....
Kzinti have not spent their CP for once.
C6 combat has now been completed.
In Hydran space, SB 716 was destroyed, 718 lost a PDU (3 left) and 519 was devastated.
Over 617, Hydrans lost 3 PDU's on the Capital planet (5 left) and Hoplishka single remaining PDU was destroyed.
Klingons lost a C8 and a TGA (no pods on it), Lyrans lost a BC - and Coalition have a stack of cripples.
Hydrans lost a RN, AH (fist Alliance Auto Kill requirement), a SC which was fighting retreated over and a KN (also fighting retreated over) - plus have a couple of crippled ships.
A Small Hydran squadron is Out of Supply in 614 and no Coalition ships are out of supply.
I could have captured 518 - but the force almost certainly would have been out of supply.
The Old Colonies is linked to the main supply grid.
Hopefully everyone is sat down.... but the Coalition actually out rolled the Alliance this turn - 3.0 v 2.94!
Both sides got abit of luck - Coalition scored enough to get the 8th SID over 1304 and Hydrans missed the pursuit after 617 - but Coalition rolled poorly over the Hydran capital and only got 3 PDU;s (1 higher on the dice was needed - but the Hydrans rolled the same number as the Coalition).
Kzinti did get a good pursuit over 1304 though and on the second round over 718, Hydrans rolled well and the slim chance the planet might fall vanished (Hydrans Offensive line compot was higher by about 20%, but Coalition had about 20% more Defensive Compot in the hex).
So - Kzinti have been much reduced, but the Hydrans remain strong.
Retrograde and SM to be done.
C6 combat is done. On the Hydran front, He destroyed the Hydran exp. SB and took 3PDU off of Hydrax, 1PDU each off of Hydraxaport and a minor in the Hydrax hex, and devastated minor planet 519.
The Hydrans picked off C8, D6M, Lyran CC, and TGA with dirdam. They also lost some small ships -- KN, SC, and AH for sure. The Coalition took another 25 or so crips on the Hydran front, while the Hydrans took 9.
The remaining Hydran defenses are all on a diagonal line passing through Hydrax. They have the 2nd fleet SB, minor planet 416, the Hydrax system (some PDUs lost but all planets undevastated), and Hydraxaport. Between the shrinking number of points to defend and their growing fleet, they now have more than enough ships to put a full line everywhere, including 3 full lines at Hydrax.
I'm still not sure if Paul will now strike at the Feds or try to take Hydrax!!! His strat moves should make it clear, honest!
It's the Hydrans. He put 4 of his 7 reserves down there, though two of them are understrength. And he did not retro a bunch of units to the Fed border. This is new territory for me -- I've never played a game where the Klingons didn't strike the Feds on turn 7. Should be interesting!
The Hydrans, while under further pressure, do not appear likely to collapse on turn 7. The difficulty is likely to go up dramatically on turn 8.
Kzinti economy, turn 6
Survey roll 8
Survey total 61
Survey EP 6
Offmap 17
Capital
Planets 3
Provinces 5
Income 31
From last turn 0
Orion smuggling from crippled SB 0.5
Total Money 31.5
Repairs 31.5
Balance 0
Also: 2CP available
Hydran economy, turn 6
Survey roll 11
Survey total 51
Survey EP 4
Offmap 17
Capital 24
Planets 9
Provinces 9
Income 63
From last turn 0
Offmap treasury 15.5
Total Money 78.5
Repairs
Offmap 11.5
Hydrax 10
Subtotal 21.5
Builds
PAL 16
RN 10.5
3HR 18
Skipped: 3CU, 3HN
Subtotal 44.5
Conversions
KN>DE 4
DG>LB 2
Subtotal 6
Total spending 72
Money after Econ 6.5
Also: 4CP available
Alas, the Coalition cripples backlog is just too big at the moment - Lyrans have 20 cripples for example in 408.
23 Cripples are in the main FRD park (1407) and 13 crippled are the secondary FRD park (1214) and 81 are dotted around the map at other bases!
About the only good news is that the Kzinti still have a modest number of cripples too (and haven't yet started on their replacement Shipyard).
Well, Alliance turn 6 came and went pretty quickly!
2 Battles in the north and 5 battles in the south.
Dice gods game both sides and average 3 for the 4 battle rolls done (alas the 6 I rolled over 1504 was wasted and so the rolls in the other 3 battles were just below what I wanted 
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Losses are a Lyran CW, FF and a BATS (212) and the Klingons lost a F5 and E4 - plus have a few cripples on top.
Hydrans lost a LN and CR and Kzinti lost a FF and EFF.
3 of the battles were a stack of Hydran ships v 2 defending ships (with 2 of the pairs having a crippled hull) and so no rolls was made (other than captures!).
Hydrans and Kzinti easily got the out of supply ships back into supply.
Yes, the turn is done. The Hydrans finally killed BATS 212. Even that wasn't a given. Had Paul not directed on a LN, we would likely have killed fighters, taken one cripple, and retreated.
Possibly they should have been more aggressive. I'm not sure. Allowing the reserves to move does have disadvantages.
The Kzinti also took a conservative turn. They got their remaining crips to repair points, resupplied the crippled Duke's SB, and set up to defend the Marquis region on Coalition turn 7.
...and Coalition Turn 7 starts.
Lyran survey 11 (78) total.
Builds
BC, TGP, 2 x CW, CWE, 3 x DW, 3 x FF
CA to DN conversion (1st one of the game!)
1 x PDU Built
0.8 Ep's Left
Just afew Ep's spent on repairs - 69.5 Eps! 49 ships repaired (about half the backlog!).
Klingon Survey 9 (40 - hurrah - 4 turns to find the first province and 2 turns to find the second province)
Builds
D7C, D7, D6M, D5V, AD5, 7 x D5, 5 x F5, F5E, 3 x E4
Conversion - D5 to AD5
2 x D6 and 2 x F5 (last F5's) withdrawn from Mothball
B10 Roll 2 (total 17)
Repairs 60 Ep's spent - 38 ships repaired (about 2/3rds of the backlog).
0.7 Ep' Left (I did find some corruption in the Klingon economy - I amended a cell in turn 1's builds on turn 3 to 6... and so the balance was slightly understated!)
1401 remains in the hands of the 'true' Patriach and her capital hex has 5 functioning PDU's and a MB - and she now rules over the bulk of 'true' Kzinti space - just isolated pockets of rebels remain, primarily in the Barony and Marquis provinces.
Hydran space remains more fluid though.
Due to continued Federation weaponry being found in Kzinti space, Coalition forces have been instructed to remove all Federation Privateer forces from Kzinti space.
Coalition forces have therefore entered the Marquis provinces and loyal Kzinti forces and civilians should assist the liberation forces.
Coalition turn 7 op move is done, and reserves have been dispatched. The Coalition appears likely to take the major planet adjacent to Hydrax. There is also a big battle at Hydrax. If Paul presses the attack, he is highly likely to devastate at least one planet, and it would not surprise me to see him get more.
On the Kzinti front, one BATS and the crippled Duke's SB are both likely to die. He also has an attack on the Marquis SB with 530 DefPot vs. just under 300 DefPot the Kzinti, not counting the SB itself. So that could fall too, but it would definitely be a painful battle for the Coalition, and it probably has some chance of surviving an assault, though it might be slim -- I'm not sure.
I had expected East fleet to go to the Hydran front, but it actually went to the Fed/Kzinti border! No clue what is up with that.
Duke's SB is still up on T7? That's pretty unusual.
Did the Federation get attacked on C7? If not, I don't think the East Fleet is released, which means only 5 of its ships can move.
Richard
Yes - still alive - the dice on turn 5 was just absolutely brutal to me and Wlliam risked some carriers to keep the SB alive - and I rolled that badly I couldn't even kill the carriers.
On turn 6 - sent too many heavy ships to 902 (as that was also alive) - so 902 died easily and 1304 was only crippled.
Klingons have everything released on turn 7 - and no Fed attack occurred.
Duke is alive but crippled. It will die shortly.
Klingon East Fleet (and IWR) is NOT released in this circumstance:
602.47) KLINGONS: The Klingon Imperial War Reserve is not
released; the Klingons are not “at war” with the Federation. Eastern
Fleet is not released unless at war with Federation or unless
enemy units enter Eastern Fleet Zone.
Your right - missed that!
602.11 just stated all - so general rule superseded by Specific rule.
Thanks Richard.
The upshot is that 43 Coalition DefPot that were attacking the Marquis have disappeared through a rules warp. So the ship DefPot count there is now 487 (approx.) vs. just under 300. Of course the Kzinti also have the SB.