Fight to the death Romulans no surrender

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Friday, January 03, 2020 - 05:01 pm: Edit

AT33

Combat is over!

After 9 rounds of combat and a weird pursuit (BIR rolled 1, GRN rolled 1, ROM rolled 6; saved the Romulans a couple vaporized cripples), the Romulans were pushed off of planet 4309, leaving no significant Romulan force in range of the Gorn capital hexes, and currently seeing 150+ Alliance ships in range of the Romulan capital hexes. The Fed force in 4309 is, however, cut out of supply currently due to some Romulan ships that retreated in the way of the supply path (it's about 30 ships, 3 or 4 cripples; the SCS and CVA are mostly out of fighters), but the giant Gorn force stacked with it is just fine. The Feds being out of supply is a minor inconvenience, but not a disaster.

In Hydran space, the Hydrans took back planet 0519, reopened supply to the Old Colonies, but not much actually happened.

In Kzinti space, the Kzinti took back planets 1105, 1504, 1802, and a bunch of space.

On the Fed/Klingon front, the Feds took back planets 2214 (well, recaptured) and 2715, as well as killing BATS 2014.

On the Fed/Romulan front, the Feds killed BATS 4010 and 4012.

On the Gorn front, the Gorn took planet 4309, pushed most of the Romulans out of Gorn space.

Ships killed:
-LYR: CWS, CW, 2FF
-KLI: DX, 2D5X, D5, F5L, 2F5, 6E4
-ROM: FHX, SPX, 3SKX, 3SEX, SK, SEH, SEE, 2SN, (SP, SPF, LAV, SAV)

-ZIN: 2CL, FFK, FF
-HYD:
-FED: 3DDX, FFX, 6NCL, FFE, 4FF
-GRN: 4HDX, 3DDE

32 (and 2 auxes killed as they were left behind by the retreating Romulan force) dead Coalition (including 11 X ships) and 26 dead Alliance (including 8 dead X ships). # dead Coalition BATS.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Friday, January 03, 2020 - 09:51 pm: Edit

AT33

For the turn, the Alliance averaged 3.3 on dice; the Coalition averaged 3.5; the Alliance did very well early on, but over planet 4309, the Gorn did not that hot, getting outrolled in 6 of the 10 combat rolls.

By Paul Howard (Raven) on Saturday, January 04, 2020 - 01:00 pm: Edit

Seems like a good turn for the Alliance - with average dice might have been a very good turn?

So - whats the chance of a strong attack on the Romulan capital on Alliance turn 34?

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Saturday, January 04, 2020 - 01:54 pm: Edit

The dice were almost completely irrelevant other than in the single pursuit from planet 4309 (where it saved 1-2 crippled hulls from destruction).

Like, if the Gorn had rolled better, the Romulans would have lost a few more fighters, maybe had another crippled escort or two, maybe the Romulans flee the planet a round earlier (which is mostly a wash); nothing significant would have changed if the dice results had switched sides, really.

At press time, the Alliance have roughly 190 ships on planet 4309, which is within 6 hexes of both Romulan capital hexes, SB 4411, numerous BATS and a few planets. It isn't impossible that the Alliance will be pushed off the planet on CT34 (as there are an awful lot of Romulans in range), but even if the Alliance retreat from the planet, they can still be in range of the Romulan capital hexes at the start of AT34, and just set up a TG as a supply point.

As the game ends at the end of AT34, they only got one turn to make a push, however.

By Paul Howard (Raven) on Saturday, January 04, 2020 - 02:08 pm: Edit

Getting a bad pursuit roll is always annoying!

Well, capturing a Coalition capital hex is worth a lot of bragging rights....

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Saturday, January 04, 2020 - 02:28 pm: Edit

I can't imagine that they could realistically capture a Romulan capital hex on AT34 unless I do something super dumb; worst case scenario, the Romulans pull a bunch of ships back to protect the Capital hexes, and the Alliance get to kill some lesser protected Romulan bases (such as the Romulan SB over captured Fed planet 3711, or SB 4411, which is probably the weak link here, as it is 3 hexes from the Romulan capital, and as such, if much of the Romulan fleet falls back to the Capital, they can't react to help this one...)

By William Jockusch (Verybadcat) on Saturday, January 04, 2020 - 09:11 pm: Edit

True, but if the Romulans pull a bunch of ships back, it might open up something else.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Wednesday, January 08, 2020 - 07:13 pm: Edit

AT33

The turn is over!

In Hydran space, the Hydrans pulled all their ships back to 0416, still have a handful of ships by the Old Colonies, and have no reserves, having moved all of their off map ships earlier in the turn.

In Kzinti space, the Kzinti move all the ships that aren't in 1105 back to 1401, except for a few ships in 1001. They have 2 reserves off map, comprised of 13 total ships.

The Gorn still have a ton of ships (including 3 dozen out of supply Feds) at planet 4309, a handful of ships spread around various planets inside of Gorn space, and a couple of modest reserves in 4403.

The Fed still have a bunch of ships on and around planet 2214 in the Fed/Kli neutral zone, lots of ships around the core of Fed space, plenty of ships near the Romulan border, but not much that can go deep into Romulan space. They have 4 reserves around Earth, but two of them are only a couple ships each.

Most of Kzinti, Gorn, and Fed space are controlled by the Alliance. Their economies are strong. The Hydrans have most of western Hydran space, but the Coalition still hold the Hydran capital with a likely unbreakable hold.

Map at end of AT33:

http://www.lightlink.com/pdb6/SCD2mapAT33end.html

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Thursday, January 09, 2020 - 05:28 pm: Edit

CT34

Lyran Econ:

Command Points: 1

Exploration: 322+11=333 (+12)

Treasury EP: 39.555 (AT33)

On Map Provinces (32): 31 (.5)=15.5
Off Map Provinces (8): 32 (.5)=16
Captured Provinces: 2.4+3 (.5)=2.7
On Map Planets: (59): 59 (.5)=29.5
Off Map Planets: (16): 16 (.5)=8
Captured Planets: 3 (.5)=1.5
XTP Conversion (20%, +10)=(24.64)

Total EP: 88.115 (73.2 produced)

Treasury XTP: 18.44 (AT33)

XTP from Conversion: 24.64
XTP from Planets (40%): 31.2
XTP Bonus: 7

Total XTP: 81.18 (62.74 produced)

Construction T34:
-30 3CWX (XTP, CW)
-10 SCX (XTP, DW)
-24 3DWX (XTP, DW)
-21 SCS (6FFF, PF from pool)
-9 CC
-6 CWE (NCA)
-6+1 HDWE
-2.5 FF
-15 3FF (overbuild)
-0 6PF (pool)

Construction Total EP: 60.5
Construction Total XTP: 64

Conversions:
-5 CC>CCX (0408 XTP)
-8 FF>SCX (1407 XTP)

Conversion Total EP:
Conversion Total XTP: 13

Repairs:
-11.5 (3BCH, BC 1407)
-1 (FF 0404)
-1.5 (CW 0617)

Repair Total: 14

Pay To Supply Ships:

Total Spent EP: 74.5
Total Spent XTP: 77

Treasury EP: 13.615
Treasury XTP: 4.18

PF Replacement:

Field Repair:

FFF Left: 0

Salvage:

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Klingon Econ:

Command Points: 4

Exploration: 207+10=217 (+8)

Treasury EP: 29.82 (AT33)

On Map Provinces (52): 49 (.5)=24.5
Off Map Provinces(0): 16 (.5)=8
Captured Provinces: 7.6+13=20.6 (.5)=10.3
On Map Planets: (90): 86 (.5)=43
Captured Planets: 11 (.5)=5.5
XTP Conversion (20%, +10)=(28.26)

Total EP: 92.86 (91.3 produced)

Treasury XTP: 25.03 (AT33)

XTP from Conversion: 28.26
XTP from Planets (40%): 38.8
XTP Bonus: 8

Total XTP: 100.09 (75.06 produced)

Construction T34:
-14 D5DX (XTP, D5)
-30 3D5X (XTP, D5)
-27 3FX (XTP, F5)
-21 C8S (6FFF, PF Pool)
-16 2D7
-2.5 E4 (D5W)
-15 3D5
-2.5 E4 (D5)
-6+1 HDWE
-8 2F5W
-7.5 3E4 (F5)
-2.5 E4
-0 4PF Flotilla (6FFF)

Construction Total EP: 82
Construction Total XTP: 71

Conversions:
-14 2D7>DX (1411 XTP)
-6 D7C>DX (0617 XTP)

Conversion Total EP:
Conversion Total XTP: 20

Repairs:
-4 (BC, CW 2318)
-4 (2FX 2318 XTP)
-5 (D5, 2F5W 2916)

Repair Total: 9 EP, 4 XTP

Adopting Lyrans:
-Currently 0 adopted; 12 spare lines.

Adoption Total:

Expedition: 1.25 (5 ships, Lyran space)

Expedition Total: 1.25

Total EP Spent: 92.25
Total XTP Spent: 95

Treasury EP: 0.61
Treasury XTP: 5.09

FFF Left: 0

DBB:

PF Replacement:

Field Repair:

Remaining:

Salvage:

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Romulan Econ:

Command Points: 1

Spare Parts: 1

Exploration: 221+10=231 (+9)

Treasury: 8.31 (AT33)

On Map Provinces (62): 60 (.5)=30
Off Map Provinces(0): 18 (.5)=9
Captured Provinces: 5.6+6=11.6 (.5)=5.8
On Map Planets: (51): 51 (.5)=25.5
Captured Planets: 1 (.5)=0.5
XTP Conversion: (20%, +10)=(24.16)
Extra XTP Conversion:

Total EP: 54.95 (70.8 produced)

Treasury XTP: 35.24 (AT33)

XTP from Conversion: 24.16
XTP from Planets (40%): 20.8
XTP Bonus: 6
XTP Extra Conversion:

Total XTP: 86.2 (50.96 produced)

Construction T34:
-14 FHX (XTP FH)
-12 SSX (XTP, SK)
-36 4SKX (XTP, SK)
-21 3SEX (XTP, SEH)
-12 SUB (12 FFF)
-6 SPM
-20 4SP
-6+1 HDWE
-2.5 SN (WE)
-2.5 SN

Construction Total EP: 50
Construction Total XTP: 83

Conversions:
-2 KE>KEX (4613, XTP)

Conversion Total EP:
Conversion Total XTP: 2

Repairs:
-1.5 (SPF 4310)

Repair Total: 1.5

Adopt Ships: (0/1 paid for)

Total EP Spent: 51.5
Total XTP Spent: 85

FFF Left:

Treasury EP: 3.45
Treasury XTP: 1.2

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Saturday, January 11, 2020 - 10:34 am: Edit

CT34

The Coalition have started their last turn (as the game ends at the end of AT34). They did manage to put 29 new X-ships on the map, but are reaching the end of their money reserves.

There were no raids; the Coalition only had 3 ships in various raid pools, and other than contesting a few provinces, they couldn't really hit anything, so those 3DNLs were returned for reserve duty.

Operational movement has started. In Hydran space, the Coalition have moved to consolidate their control over the parts of Hydran space they can control, but haven't yet attacked any Hydran units. The Hydrans have no reserves this turn, and most of their ships are on planet 0416.

In Kzinti space, the Coalition have attacked abandoned planets 1504 and 1802 with forces big enough to dissuade reserves (the Kzinti have 2 modest reserves off map), planet 1001 with a force big enough to dissuade reserves and the handful of ships already there, have consolidated some provinces, and are now pouring ships onto Kzinti held planet 1105. The Kzinti have about 120 SEQ in the hex.

In Fed space, so far, the Klingons have moved a bunch of province raiders into and around 2312, getting a solid blockade between Fed supply and about 130 Fed SEQ in and around planet 2214. If the Coalition do not attack them (preventing reserves from opening supply), those ships will end the turn cut out of supply. The ships could get resupplied with EPs, but smuggling it in at 2:1 will be very expensive, and probably will result in most of them having 3 hexes of movement on AT34. No Fed units have been attacked yet.

On the Romulan/Gorn border, the Romulans have been piling ships on planet 4039, where there are about 180 SEQ of Gorn and then 34 SEQ of out of supply Feds. Seems likely there will be another big fight there.

Plenty of ships to go.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Sunday, January 12, 2020 - 12:31 pm: Edit

CT34

Moves keep happening.

The Coalition now have significant advantages (ship wise) over planets 1105 and 4309.

The Feds on the edge of Klingon space (2213 and planet 2214) are cut off from the Fed supply grid, but as they have a partial grid (with a minor devastated planet and a province connected), they will be able to buy some ships into supply at the start of their turn, but unless they pour a lot of smuggled money in, many of those ships will only be able to move 3 hexes on AT34, which limits their ability to wreak havoc. But they'll certainly be able to wreak some havoc.

At press time, there are only a few battle hexes; none on the Hydran front; 4 on the Kzinti front, but three of them have little to zero opposition, and the Kzinti reserves are unlikely to improve the Kzinti chances there; on the Gorn front, one giant fight over planet 4309; on the Fed front, currently zero Fed targets have been attacked except for devastated planet 2715, which is out of range of any reserves.

The Coalition still have plenty of ships to move, but mostly it seems like they are shoring up the control of Alliance space that they can control, and generally only fighting the Alliance in a couple significant spots.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Monday, January 13, 2020 - 08:08 pm: Edit

CT34

The last Coalition operational move is done!

In Hydran space, there is only one fight; a mob of Klingons killing probably a CU in hex 0118; the Coalition didn't want to engage the main Hydran fleet (as I don't even think I could pin them), and hit one hex of 8 ships just to kill a CU, 'cause, well, I lose nothing for doing so. The Hydrans have no reserves.

In Kzinti space, there are 4 fights; 2 currently are lines vs abandoned planets; one is about 2 dozen ships vs 8 ships and possibly reserves; and the last is a giant mob of Coalition vs a smaller mob of Kzinti (something like 180 Coalition SEQ vs 120 Kzinti SEQ). The Kzinti have 2 reserves that are mostly FFs that will probably go to 1105.

There are no fights involving the Feds other than some Lyrans taking back a devastated planet with no defenses. The Fed reserves can't move.

There is one giant fight on the Gorn front, at planet 4309, which sees about 275 Romulan SEQ vs about 175 Alliance SEQ. The Gorn have 2 moderate reserves which have no reason not to show up at planet 4309.

So only 6 battle hexes, and only two of them have potential to go for longer than a single round.

By Gregory S Flusche (Vandar) on Tuesday, January 14, 2020 - 05:13 pm: Edit

Almost over. I will Miss this game. I wonder but I think the coalition will win?

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Tuesday, January 14, 2020 - 05:36 pm: Edit

Like, I think at this point, assuming I maintain control of the Hydran capital (which is protected by an SBX, SB, 6PDU, and a significant fleet and thus likely, but not 100% certain), I probably win.

Victory Points are:

-Current Economy (ignoring exhaustion) x2
-SB=20, BATS=5 (with rules on replaced/new ones; I have a handful of new SBs that don't count for VPs)
-Total ships/5
-Capital Captured=100

The Alliance will have a significant leg up on generating VPs from their economy; the Feds, Kzinti, and Gorn will be able to reclaim most of their space by the end of their next turn, and probably be able to cut Coalition economy down some as well. Ships are probably about a wash at this point. I have a leg up on base VPs, but will likely lose some this upcoming turn. Holding the Hydran capital is probably the big crux.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Friday, January 17, 2020 - 04:54 pm: Edit

CT34

Combat is over! And...a lot of nothing happened on the last Coalition turn.

In Hydran space, the Coalition took back some abandoned planets, killed a CU, forced a few ships off map, but otherwise didn't do much.

In Kzinti space, the Coalition took back planets 1001, 1504, and 1802 with limited to no resistance, and took back planet 1105 after 2 rounds of fairly inconsequential combat.

In Fed space, the Lyrans took back undefended planet 2715, but no other Federation targets or units were engaged.

On the Gorn front, the Romulans took back planet 4709 after one round of combat.

In the two potentially big fights (1105 and 4709), the Alliance was outgunned and outnumbered, and rather than fighting for a while and giving the Coalition more cripples (at the expense of more cripples), the Alliance just fought a round or two and left. The Kzinti fleet is sitting in 1104 (in range of a few Lyran targets) and the very large Gorn fleet is sitting in 4408 (in range of 2 Starbases, a couple BATS, a planet, and both Romulan capital hexes...). The Romulans are forced to pull ships back to defend their Capital hexes, and can't possibly defend all the things the Gorn can hit.

Ships Killed:
-LYR: 2CWX
-KLI:
-ROM: 2SPX

-ZIN: 2CMX, FF
-HYD: CU
-FED: (4NCL)
-GRN: HDX

The 4 Fed NCLs were crippled and with the out of supply Fed fleet in 4309 that fled after a round, getting killed in pursuit.

In the one round over planet 4709, the two forces were:

ROM: ROC+PF+ADM (c/f), [PHX+PF, HDWE, SPM, SKE], [3SPX, 3SKX], 2NH, (KRS)=158/4

GRN: CCX(adm)(flag,form), 2x[HDWP+CLE+DDE], 3xHDX, 2xHD, TGS(scout form)=119/6

The Romulan PF packed force (with an X-ship battlegroup) was nuts.

The Alliance have the last turn; they are unlikely to take any capital hexes (it isn't *impossible* that they could take a Romulan hex if I do something dumb; it also isn't impossible that they could take the Hydran Capital back, also if I do something dumb), but can probably kill a couple SB if they want, and basically every FF they leave in Coalition space is a 6 point VP swing for them. So we'll see what happens!

By Gregory S Flusche (Vandar) on Friday, January 17, 2020 - 05:34 pm: Edit

Take back Hydrax

By Richard Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Friday, January 17, 2020 - 10:52 pm: Edit

Hydrax probably has a horrific compot in static defenses.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Saturday, January 18, 2020 - 08:01 am: Edit

Hydrax static Coalition defenses:

SBX (54+12+24), SB (36+12+24), 6PDU (18+36+36).

The Hydrans get to fight over one base instead of both until one of the SBs is dead, so the first chunk of the fight (probably over the regular SB) would have only +189 compot (on top of the fleet full of X ships). The PDUs probably die quick, but likely a whole lot of Hydrans just get vaporized the first few rounds, eventually the regular SB explodes, and then there is still an SBX to fight.

Seems rough.

By Paul Howard (Raven) on Saturday, January 18, 2020 - 01:19 pm: Edit

Ouch

At least with the dual base rules..... it is less painful now.

Do the Hydrans have the power to also direct cripple a SB or SBX?

(A line of 12 Paladins, FSP Tug and a NSC is about 219? - only 30% is then needed!)

Could always strip the PDU's first....

...but either way, will be expensive in dead ships!

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Saturday, January 18, 2020 - 03:09 pm: Edit

No, they do not.

By Gregory S Flusche (Vandar) on Saturday, January 18, 2020 - 05:06 pm: Edit

Ok Klingons, Lyrans time to put out a deal. Give back Fed space but split the Hydan Kingdom between You .

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Sunday, January 19, 2020 - 08:49 am: Edit

CT34

The turn is over!

On the Hydran front, the Coalition are hunkered down over 0617; there is a significant fleet over Lyran SB 0411 (the other thing the Hydrans can attack). There is an all X-ship reserve in 0617, and all X-ship reserve at 0411 (well, 10 X-ships and 2 Fast cruisers) and another all X-ship reserve at the Lyran Capital in 0408. The Hydrans can't pin *both* 0617 and 0411, so at least one of those reserves can move to help out whichever target is being attacked.

On the Kzinti front, the Lyrans have a giant fleet over 1407, the Klingons have a solid fleet over 1506, and there are battle lines over 1001, 1504, 1802, and a few brave ships holding 1105. There are solid reserves in 1407 and 1506.

On the Fed/Klingon front, there are significant Klingon fleets at 1910, 2812 (where the B10 and a pile of X-ships live now, the pair of SBs in 2916, and then there are plenty of ships inside of Klingon space, mostly in the SE portion. The Feds have about 140 ships in and around planet 2214 which are currently cut out of supply, but with Orion smuggling, some of them can be supplied; even if none of the are supplied, they'll be in supply in time for combat, and can reach 2 planets and a BATS. There is an all X-ship reserve in 1514 and a solid reserve at SB 2318.

On the Fed/Romulan front, the Romulans have a big fleet and a reserve over SB 3711, a big Klingon fleet over planet 3612, and a battle line holding planet 3415.

On the Gorn front, where the most potential for havoc exists, the Romulans have a solid fleet over SB 4411, most of the rest of their fleet (100+ ships) at Capital hex 4613. There are reserves in 4112 (which could be pinned by the Feds, but that was where the ships already were) and 4214, which is unpinnable. The Gorn and Feds have a fleet of about 190 ships in 4408 (about 30 Feds in the hex, currently out of supply, but will likely all be established as expeditionary and adopted ships at the start of AT34), which can reach a lot of targets (numerous BATS, planets, a couple SB, and both Romulan capital hexes). Upon close examination of ship numbers on this front, the Alliance could, if they tried real hard, get about 20 SEQ into Romulan secondary capital hex 4514, which would only be defended by a single reserve force (13 ships, mostly X ships). Given the SB and 12 PDUs (and piles of PFs), it seems like it would not accomplish that much. But it would be exciting!

Into the endgame!

Map at end of CT34:

http://www.lightlink.com/pdb6/SCD2mapCT34end.html

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Sunday, January 19, 2020 - 07:29 pm: Edit

Well the good news for the Alliance is that they don't have to prepare for any reserves because the game ends...

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 05:56 pm: Edit

AT34

The Fed have about 159 EP and 96 XTP to use this turn. They build 7DDX, 3FFX, CVA, NHV, HDWE, NCL, FFE, 16FF, SWAC, then overbuild 11 more FF. They spend a few points on repairs, and end econ with a couple bucks in treasury.

The Kzinti have about 50 EPs and 45 XTPs to spend. They build CCX, 2CMX, FKX, CM, DWE, 6FF, 24PFs (using FFF). They overbuild 5FF, spend a few bucks on repairs, end economy with a couple bucks in treasury.

The Gorn have about 56 EP and 45 XTP to spend. They build CCX, 2HDX, HD, 7DD, overbuild 6DD, end econ with a couple bucks in treasury.

The Hydrans have about 8EP and 23 XTP to spend. They build KNX, 9CU, PGS, some PFs using spare FFF. The Hydrans end econ with less than 1 EP+XTP combined.

The Alliance put 82 new ships on the map this turn; conversely, the Coalition put 55 new ships on the map this turn.

The Alliance don't raid. Moves for the last turn of the game are underway!