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By Frank Brooks (Alskdjf) on Monday, May 01, 2017 - 04:47 pm: Edit

LAC: The word "Large" should be added to the beginning of the Notes column. F Brooks, 1 May 2017.

SAC: The word "Small" should be added to the beginning of the Notes column. F Brooks, 1 May 2017.

BSX(N): The SFB Ref # should be R1.207. F Brooks, 1 May 2017.

BSX(F): The SFB Ref # should be R1.207. F Brooks, 1 May 2017.

BSX(FP): The SFB Ref # should be R1.207. F Brooks, 1 May 2017.

FEDS note on auxiliary ship build costs: Recommend simply citing for each auxiliary build as follows:

(549.121): #
(where '#' is the cost of production)

Rationale:


Quote:

(549.121) Each empire may produce one auxiliary (of any type) per turn (the Federation, Klingons, Romulans, and the ISC may produce two per turn), but only one per year may be a large, jumbo, or heavy auxiliary. One large or two small auxiliary troop ships can be built each turn in addition to that number. Some auxiliaries have an “in service” limit (762.0). Some smaller empires have lower limits in their order of battle.



All older references in the auxiliary build columns are now obsolete as the new (549.0) Auxiliary Warships rules cover their production.

By Frank Brooks (Alskdjf) on Monday, May 01, 2017 - 04:47 pm: Edit

STB(F): Is it possible to convert the STB(N) into this unit? F Brooks, 1 May 2017.

STB(FP): Is it possible to convert the STB(N) and STB(F) into this unit? F Brooks, 1 May 2017.

SB(FP): The text "4xPFM/HPM/HFM" should be "4xFTM". F Brooks, 1 May 2017.

By Nick Samaras (Koogie) on Tuesday, May 02, 2017 - 09:00 pm: Edit

REG: Conversion from DN should be PAL for consistency. (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

LP: Factors only show crippled factors. (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

OS: Crippled fighter factors should be 4 triangle. (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

LC: Conversion from LB should be 1.5, not 1 as 1.5 fighters are gained in conversion. (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

PIG: Needs conversions from CA. (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

CAM: Crippled fighter factors should be triangle. (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

By Nick Samaras (Koogie) on Tuesday, May 02, 2017 - 09:02 pm: Edit

IRQ: Crippled fighter factor should be triangle. (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

CHY: Crippled fighter factor should be triangle. (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

MKE: Needs two-step conversions from HR, TR. (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

MKI: Needs 2-step conversion from HR.(Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

MKV: Needs conversion fro mCVM. (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

MSV: Needs conversion from NSC. (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

MKH: Needs conversion from MKV, two-step from HR. (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

By Nick Samaras (Koogie) on Tuesday, May 02, 2017 - 09:06 pm: Edit

PGZ: Conversion should be (see 440.4). (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

PGS: Conversion from PG?: 2 should probably be standardized to "from PGZ: 2".(Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

PGC: Conversion from PG?: 3 should probably be standardized as "from PGZ: 3+3" as this ship gains fighters over some Pegasus variants.(Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

PGF: Conversion from PG?: 3 should probably be standardized as "from PGZ: 3+2" as this ship gains fighters over some Pegasus variants.(Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

PGG: Conversion from PG?: 3 should probably be standardized to "from PGZ: 3".(Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

PGZ: Conversion from PG?: 2+12 should probably be standardized to "from PGZ: 2+12".(Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

PGE: Conversion from PG?: 1 should probably be standardized as "from PGZ: 1+2" as this ship gains fighters over some Pegasus variants. Needs battle group symbol. (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

By Nick Samaras (Koogie) on Tuesday, May 02, 2017 - 09:10 pm: Edit

3CVM: Crippled fighter factors should be 6 triangle. (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

CVM: Crippled fighter factors should be 4 triangle. (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

D7X: Should the 1 fighter factor be 1 triangle becuase it has more powerful Stinger-X? Needs conversion from Klingon DX and D7 (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

HDW: What about conversions from CR and SA? (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

LNH: Needs conversion from KNH. (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

KNH: Needs conversion from LN. Conversion from "LH"should be "LNH"
(Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

By Nick Samaras (Koogie) on Tuesday, May 02, 2017 - 09:13 pm: Edit

SR: Fighter factors should be 2 (1 crippled) as per counter. Conversion from "KH" should be "KN". Construction cost: For DD: 11+2 (2 fighters). (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

SRG: Needs conversions from LN and KN. (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

LNX: Needs conversion from KNX. (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

KNX: Needs conversion from LNX. (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

SCX: Needs conversion from KNX. Should conversions from LN and KN have 2-step symbol? (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

DWG: Ref # 129. (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

HNX: Needs conversion from CUX and SA. Needs battle group symbol. (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

CUX: Needs conversion from HNX and SA. Needs battle group symbol. (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

By Nick Samaras (Koogie) on Tuesday, May 02, 2017 - 09:17 pm: Edit

Hydran heavy and jumbo auxiliaries carry fighters in SFB. This needs to be addressed in the factors and build/conversion costs, unless ignored. (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

CPX: YIS should be Y181, one turn after CPF. (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

MPAL-PF: YIS Y180 (PF intro date). (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

FRD+: Should YIS match FRD at Y139, Hydran fighters available earlier. (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

FSD fighter depot missing YIS. (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

HPM heavy power module missing YIS. (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

PGB: Confirm YIS is Y135, the same as PDU? Should it not be earlier? FSD fighter depot missing YIS. (Nick Samaras, May 2, 2017)

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Friday, May 05, 2017 - 01:34 pm: Edit

Fix EW spacing
Fix Scout capitalization
update HDW entries.
Check auto-date on header.

By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Saturday, May 06, 2017 - 02:17 am: Edit

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Saturday, May 06, 2017 - 11:19 am: Edit

Standardize HDW variants as HDWZ and HDWX variants as HWXZ.

By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Sunday, May 07, 2017 - 08:59 pm: Edit

Global POL/PV/FLG (but not heavy POL) review cleanup

POL Call up cost for generic POL is 0. Fixing. Backporting Paravian style POL call up frequency: Build "Call up: 0 (1/Turn) (531.12)" - Howard Bampton 2017-05-07

PV (GNV) Backporting Paravian style PV call up frequency: Build "Call up: 3 (1/Fall)" - Howard Bampton 2017-05-07

PV (GNV) Backporting Paravian PV Note "Police Carrier; See (531.4)" - Howard Bampton 2017-05-07

FLG Backporting Paravian style FLG call up frequency: Build "Call up: 2 (1/Spng)" - Howard Bampton 2017-05-07

FLG Backporting Paravian style FLG Note "Police Flagship, Commando Ship, Scout, EW=1. See (531.3)." - Howard Bampton 2017-05-07

By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Monday, May 08, 2017 - 01:14 pm: Edit

HGN Build cost doesn't list call up cost: "Call up: 0 (1/Year)" - Howard Bampton 2017-05-08

HGN 5HP.1 states call up replaces POL call up. Adding to note : "Heavy Police Ship (5HP.0), call up replaces POL" - Howard Bampton 2017-05-08

HGV Build cost doesn't list call up cost: "Call up: 0 (1/Fall)" (see next item however) - Howard Bampton 2017-05-08
FEDS: "Call up: 4 (1/Fall)"

HGV 5HP.1 states call up replaces PV call up. Adding to note : "Heavy Police Carrier (5HP.0), call up replaces PV, limit 1 in service." - Howard Bampton 2017-05-08

By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Thursday, May 11, 2017 - 02:11 pm: Edit

HDW COG/FOP/POG etc- entries need to be added to SIT as a part of HDW cleanup. - Howard Bampton 2017-05-11

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Sunday, May 14, 2017 - 09:36 am: Edit

Pegasus Cruisers: PGR: Factors: Crippled side triange fighter factor should be (Triangle Fighter Factor). Missing () around fighter factor. Thomas Mathews 14 May 2017

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Monday, May 22, 2017 - 04:11 am: Edit

HYDRAN HEAVY AUXES (Changes from Heavy Aux Template)

HYDRAN HAA: NO CHANGES REQUIRED from template.

HYDRAN HAC: factors 7-8(2)/4(1) | build (549.121): 9+2 | notes to read: Heavy Auxiliary Combatant, casual carrier.

HYDRAN HAV: factors 4-8(14)/2-4(7) | conv From HAC: 2+12+0 | build (549.121): 9+12+2 | notes to read: Heavy Auxiliary Carrier; optional escorts per (515.27). Two standard fighter squadrons plus two hybrid factors.

HYDRAN HAH: factors 4-8(8H8)/2-4(4H4) | conv From HAV: 0+2+0; From HAC: 2+14 | (549.121): 9+14+2 | One standard and one heavy fighter squadron plus 2 hybrid factors.

HYDRAN FTH: factors 3-8GGGG(2)/1-4GG(1) | conv From HAC: 2+0 | build (549.121): 11+2 | notes to read: Heavy Auxiliary Troop Ship, casual carrier.

HYDRAN HAS: factors 4-8*(2)/2-4(1) | conv From HAC: 3+0 | (549.121): 12+2 | notes to read: Heavy Auxiliary Scout, (3EW:2AF)(1EW:4AF), casual carrier.

HYDRAN HAP: factors 4-8(2)P*/2-4(1)P | conv From HAC: 5+0+¶; From HAS: 3+0+¶ | build (549.121): 11+2+¶ | notes to read: Heavy Auxiliary PFT, Scout, (2EW:3AF)(1EW:4AF), casual carrier.

HYDRAN HSC: factors 4-8P*(8)/2-4P(4) | conv From HAC: 7+6+0+¶; From: HAS: 5+6+0+¶| build (549.121): 13+6+2+¶ | notes to read: Heavy Auxiliary Space Control Ship; optional escorts per (515.27); Scout, (2EW:3AF)(1EW:4AF); one standard fighter squadron plus two hybrid factors.

HYDRAN HAR: NO CHANGES REQUIRED from template.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Monday, May 22, 2017 - 07:20 pm: Edit

HYDRAN JUMBO AUXES (Change from Jumbo Aux Template)

HYDRAN JAA: NO CHANGES REQUIRED from template.

HYDRAN JAC: factors 7-6(1)/4-3(0.5) | build (549.121): 7+1 | notes to read: Jumbo Auxiliary Combatant, casual carrier.

HYDRAN JAV: factors 3-6(13)/2-3(6.5) | conv From JAC: 2+12+0; From JCV: 1+6+0 | build (549.121): 7+12+1 | notes to read: Jumbo Auxiliary Carrier; optional escorts per (515.27). Two standard fighter squadrons plus one hybrid factor.

HYDRAN JCV: factors 5-6(7)/3-3(3.5) | conv From JAC: 2+6+0; From JAV: 2+0 | build (549.121): 6+6+1 | notes to read: Jumbo Auxiliary Assault Carrier; optional escorts per (515.27). One standard fighter squadron plus one hybrid factor.

HYDRAN JCG: factors 5-6GG(1)/3-3G(0.5) | conv From JAC: 1+0; | build (549.121): 7+1 | notes to read: Jumbo Auxiliary Assault Ship; commando ship; casual carrier.

HYDRAN JAH: factors 3-6(8H7)/2-3(4H4.5) | conv From JAV: 0+2+0; From JAC: 2+14+1 | (549.121): 7+14+1 | One standard and one heavy fighter squadron plus one hybrid factor.

HYDRAN FTJ: factors 2-6GGGG(1)/1-3GG(0.5) | conv From JAC: 2+0 | build (549.121): 7+1 | notes to read: Jumbo Auxiliary Troop Ship, casual carrier.

HYDRAN JAS: factors 3-6*(1)/2-3(0.5) | conv From JAC: 3+0 | (549.121): 10+1 | notes to read: Jumbo Auxiliary Scout, (3EW:2AF)(1EW:4AF), casual carrier.

HYDRAN JAP: factors 3-6(1)P*/2-3(0.5)P | conv From JAC: 5+0+¶; From JAS: 3+0+¶ | build (549.121): 9+1+¶ | notes to read: Jumbo Auxiliary PFT, Scout, (2EW:3AF)(1EW:4AF), casual carrier.

HYDRAN JSC: factors 3-6P*(7)/2-3P(3.5) | conv From JAC: 7+6+0+¶; From: JAS: 5+6+0+¶| build (549.121): 12+6+1+¶ | notes to read: Jumbo Auxiliary Space Control Ship; optional escorts per (515.27); Scout, (2EW:3AF)(1EW:4AF); one standard fighter squadron plus one hybrid factor.

HYDRAN JAR: NO CHANGES REQUIRED from template.

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Wednesday, June 07, 2017 - 05:44 pm: Edit

HYDRAN LE: Possible conversion cost from CV should be 3+7 rather than 3+6. Fighters for LE cost 28, fighters for CV cost 21, difference is 7EP. Eitzen 6/7/17.

HYDRAN KNH: Currently 6-7(1)/3-4. This ship is currently better armed than a CW/CM (and more so than the KN which is a 6/3). Perhaps it should be at least 7(1)/4. Eitzen 6/7/17.

FEDS: Concurs with both items above.

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Thursday, July 27, 2017 - 06:02 pm: Edit

Hydran HDW: Variants with green text seem to all have the wrong factors (perhaps copy pasted from non-Hydran HDW elsewhere?). 7/27/17/

By Rob Padilla (Zargan) on Thursday, August 24, 2017 - 05:45 pm: Edit

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Sunday, September 03, 2017 - 07:34 am: Edit

Heavy Cruisers: RNX: Factors: 9-12(7)/5-6(4) should be 9-12(7)/5-6(3.5) The AO counter shows 3.5 fighter factors on the back side of the counter and 7 divided by 2 is 3.5 for fighter factors when crippled under (501.23). Thomas Mathews 3 Sep 2017

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Thursday, October 26, 2017 - 01:12 am: Edit

PIC: Has one fighter factor on the uncrippled side but no fighter factors on the crippled side. It probably should have a half fighter factor on the crippled side. Richard Eitzen 26 Oct 2017

PIG: Has one fighter factor on the uncrippled side but no fighter factors on the crippled side. It probably should have a half fighter factor on the crippled side. Richard Eitzen 26 Oct 2017

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Saturday, January 13, 2018 - 08:06 am: Edit

Heavy Cruisers: THR: Factors: 8F(2)/4(1) should be 8F(1.5)/4(1). The counter on the new 280 N+O sheet shows the factors as 8F(1.5)/4(1). Thomas Mathews 13 Jan 2018

Heavy Cruisers: THR: Cost: 10+2 should be 10+1.5. The cost based on the correct number of fighter factors (1.5) not (2) on the new 280 N+O sheet. Thomas Mathews 13 Jan 2018

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Monday, August 27, 2018 - 12:29 pm: Edit

LP group factors are currently:
13-16P(5) LP+NEC+DE+DWE

they should probably be:
25-31P(13). Eitzen 27 Aug 2018

By Ken Kazinski (Kjkazinski) on Sunday, March 01, 2020 - 11:03 pm: Edit

Page 1 MNL There is no cost for the battleship rule "(436.0) Sub MNR: 30+9", should the entry be "Sub MNR: 30+9"?

Page 1 PAL "See (440.4)." should be "See (440.4)"

Page 5 SEN "From HR 5+13 From TR 5+16." should be "From HR: 5+13 From TR: 5+16"

Page 5 HDW "From DWF: 2 +2 From DWH: 3 + 3 From HN: 3 + 3‡ From CU: 4 + 3‡" should be "From DWF: 2+2 From DWH: 3+3 From HN: 3+3‡ From CU: 4+3‡"

Page 7 SCX "From KN 8+6" should be "From KN: 8+6"

Page 7 KNX "From LN‡ 8" should be "From LN‡: 8"

Page 7 DWV "From DWH: 1 + 8 From DWF: 1 + 7 From FF: 2 + 8‡" should be "From DWH: 1+8 From DWF: 1 +7 From FF: 2+8‡"

Page 9 JAC "For 3 Auxpods: 6 (1/ year)" should be "For 3 Aux Pods: 6 (1/year)"

Page 10 JAS "For 3AuxPods:" should be "For 3 Aux Pods:"

Page 10 JTH "For 3AuxPods:" should be "For 3 Aux Pods:"

Page 10 JAV "For 3AuxPods:" should be "For 3 Aux Pods:"

Page 10 JHV "For 3AuxPods:" should be "For 3 Aux Pods:"

Page 10 JSC "For 3AuxPods:" should be "For 3 Aux Pods:"

Page 10 FTL "(521.23): 6 (1/yr)" should be "(521.23): 6 (1/year)"

Page 11 BS(FP) [With fighters and gunboats] "From: BS(F): 2+¶" should be "From BS(F): 2+¶"

Page 12 BTX(N) [No fighters/ gunboats] "From: BSX(N): 3" should be "From BSX(N): 3"

Page 13 BTX(F) [with fighters] "From: BSX(F): 3 From: BTX(N): 2+6" should be "From BSX(F): 3 From BTX(N): 2+6"

Page 13 BTX(FP) [with fighters and gunboats] "From: BSX(F): 5+¶ From: BSX(FP): 3 From: BTX(N): 4+6+¶ From: BTX(F): 2+¶" should be "From BSX(F): 5+¶ From BSX(FP): 3 From BTX(N): 4+6+¶ From BTX(F): 2+¶"

Page 17 PDU "From PGB (441.3)" should be "From PGB: (441.3)"

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