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Well for the first time in a long while, I actually tried to note what was moving and what would happen with any reaction battles...
William has been the expert in manoeuvring me into reacting where he wants me to go - and hopefully this turn, I didn't help him too much.
With so many Coalition crippled ships South West of Sol, I needed to avoid creating chains for him to retreat over....
...which I think I have just about avoided happening.
Wlliams double outflank through around 2708 did fail though - and I was able to react half a dozen ships into 2708, which contained a stack of crippled carriers and a lone uncrippled D6D.
Romulans SB 4411 looks like it will go down though - alas, the huge out of supply Federation pocket in Rompualns space was actually fair easy to get the bulk back into supply (via Homeless Supply) and assuming William also noticed this, I had to defend the Romulan capitals.
No battles on the Hydran front (again - 3rd or 4th turn of no battles!).
Colaition reserves were despatched to an open space battle in 1803, 4407 (Romulan Supply Tug under attack) and 3116. Other reserves were sent to 4411, 3118 (MB being dismantled - it will probably still die) and 2509.
I chose not to free up the 2 Klingon reserves in 2510 as it would have required 3 reserves to do so (which would have allowed the outmatched Crippled forces to be re-in forced though).
The Federation operation to kill Klingon and Lyran ships in the Earth region has got to be judged a failure. The Feds, together with a few Kzinti, did manage to kill 10 Coalition ships in the region while losing 5, but I made at least 4 unforced errors which prevented me from doing considerably more. Played correctly, I might have killed 20-25 ships.
Well, another Romulan SB dies....
...and William captured another 10 compot Coalition hull (a Lyran BC).
Capture wise - WIllaim is unbeatable.
That's not true, I've seen a C8 get captured.
The SB assault went 8 rounds, and it was ugly. The Alliance lost a Gorn DD to the autokill rule. They also lost Gorn CC and Fed CC to dirdam, for a total of 3 dead ships. They killed a crippled Lyran BC that was on the line and then captured it.
Crips taken during the battle were:
Fed 16 (including CVS and CVA)
Gorns 11 (including CV and HV)
Klingons 1 (C8)
Romulans 17 (including SPB)
Lyrans -1 net as a crippled bc was killed
So overall the Alliance took 27 crips while the Coalition took a net of 17, and deadcount was 3-1 in favor of the Coalition, but the 1 was captured. The 62 fighters the Alliance started with helped considerably.
Other things lost were 2CP for the Feds, 1CP for the Romulans, an MB, and of course the SB.
Richard
Well, I am sure William will 
As it stands 1 CR10 has died this turn - and William captured it.
What is so annoying is that the Romulans lost 2 CR10 hulls to destroy the Gorn Shipyard... the Lyrans have lost 1 CR10 since then - and so although the Gorn are down 3 CR 10 hulls that they could have built - they are actually ahead of the Coalition as they captured the Condor and BC (i.e. now down at most 1!).
And they would have had to build those DN's and Ep's are getting tight.
Capture wise William is probably running at around 200% (i.e. captured twice as many as on average you should), but is probably 400% in front on good hulls.
Over 21 turns, hulls captured are :-
Coalition : 1 CVS, a couple of War Cruisers - a stack of Frigates (and overall probably 50% of the hulls I should have captured).
Alliance : 1 CON, 1 BC, 2 x D6M, FAL, KE, 3 x FH - plus a modest number of War Cruisers and a stack of Frigates.
The dice inbalance and timing on captures is truly amazing (i.e. over a dozen Coalition hulls have died this turn - the best being the BC a couple of D5's and the rest frigates - William captured the BC and IIRC also captured a D5. Alliance has lost about 10 - and no captures).
Both sides have made mistakes this turn - the Romulans had a SPH at the SB to save the MB.... and I crippled it (didn't help I overlooked I had another KE hull in the hex, which I found for the last round).
William might have got some more hulls killed (on both sides*) South West of Sol, but with most fleets having both Lyran and Klingon possible Flag ships, I think I would have been able to avoid the worst of it (I had worked out WIlliam could have Fighting Retreated over my most damaged fleet = but would have taken 2 Federation Fighting Retreats to get there!).
1 error by WIlliam will at least see 3912 liberated by the Romulans (and with some luck, killing several crippled Feds!).
Biggest mistake I made was having a crippled ship in 4311....as William was able to Fighting Retreat over it and get back into full supply with his Feds.
Well, I'll let William give the full details... but three things for the turn
1) We both made some pretty major blunders
2) My overall rolling remains pretty bad - Cloak Withdrawals was 2 passes out of 5 attempts!
3) On normal combat - I actually outrolled William 3.53 v 3.4! On SSC William remains the king though...
Enough said about capture rolls (which petty much destroyed the good rolls I did get over the SB)
The Alliance killed 24 ships this turn while losing 19. That's the worst they've done on their turn in a long time.But we did kill an SB and 2MB. Only time will tell if it was worth it.
My focus is now squarely on my repair problem. The Gorn 6th fleet SB has 16EP of crips. The Fed 6th fleet SB has 31EP! The Feds are likely to tow in at least one FRD, but strats are at a premium as they also need to put together reserve fleets.
Tholian PWC turns 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, and 20 is one ship of "any" type in addition to the usual PC.
Conveniently, the SIT says the CVA is available year 173, which is turn 10. So they can build 6CVA in their PWC?
That's what a literal reading of the rule suggests, but it seems a little out of hand.
That is not the case; see the current OOB on these forums.
I'm actually glad it isn't. Looking at the OOB on these forums, it looks a lot saner, but there are also a bunch of ships that don't exist in our game (i.e. DDV, DDE)
Yes the CVA issue was corrected
I think the answer is we need to look at the base hulls and replace 'new type' ships with the F&E basic equivalent (which fortunately doesn't change much).
I have gone through the updated OOB and Pre-War construction for turns 1 to 21 is
1 x CVA
3 x DN
1 x CC
1 x CA
4 x DD
13 x PC
3 x BW
5 x PCE
plus any one hull EXCEPT a CVA.
(Less than 21 PC's as some are upgraded to DD or become other hulls).
And C22 starts.
Lyrans
DN CV(S) 10
CA STT 10
CW PFW (Conv) 10
2 x CW 2 x CWE 12
DW DWE 5
2 x DW 2 x FF(S) 5
3 x FF - 7.5
59.5
Conversions
PFW PFW (Conv) 5
Other Command Point 5
Repairs
411 CW, DD 2.5
608 CW, DW 3
1401 D7C, 3 x F5, DW 6.5
1407 TGP, 2 x CW, F5 6
1611 D7C, 2 x D7 6
1811 3 x DW, D5 6
30
4 CP's and 14.25 EP balance
Klingons
Schedule Builts As Cost
C8 C7 10
D7 TGB(S) 6
D5 D5V 7
D5 AD5 (S) 6
D5 D5P 10
D5 4 x D5 20
F5 4 x F5 12
2 x F5S (S/C) 8
3 x E4 - 7.5
86.5
Conversions
D5 D5P 5
Repairs
1209 F5 1
1509 D6, DD 3
1411 2 x D6, 11 x D5, 2 x E4A 22.5
1811 2 x F5 2
1813 D5 1.5
1716 4 x D5, AD5,2 x F5, E4, CWE 12
1417 D7 2
1419 D7C 2
1618 D7 2
1918 F5 1
2215 AD5 1.5
2218 D7 2
2318 4 x D5, F5S 7
2519 D5 1.5
61
Scrap 1 x CU 1 Ep
2 CP's and 1.55 Ep Balance
Romulans
Turn 22
NH FH(S) 8
FH - 8
SP SPH (S) 5
SP SPB © 10
SP 2 x SP 10
3 x SK 2 x SK 7
SKE(S) 4.5
52.5
Conversions
Upgrade 1 Klingon Homeless Supply Ship to CV 1
(12 Ships including 3 CV)
Repairs
4318 FH 2
4611 2 x SKE 2
4514 KR, 2 x SK 4
4613 FH, SP, WE, 2 x SK 7
4617 KR 2
4812 2 x SP, SK, BHE 5
5012 KE 2
24
7 CP's and 0.38125 Ep balance
Partial Grid in 3518 Builds a BHE and repairs 2 x SP, SK, BH and K7R (although it has now reconnected to the main grid)
It may be soon be relevant whether or not the Tholians can adopt Fed ships as homeless. I know the Feds can't enter Tholian space, but can they be supplied by the Tholians if they don't enter their space?
Unless there is an explicit rule that says they cannot (and none come to mind), they can.
Richard - I agree.
Just posted a discussion point on it 
Well, Op move for Coalition 22 was finally finished (real life slowed it down over the last few days).
Romuland decided against a strong Raid on the Gorn capitals - and so assault in strength 4206/4806 and 4 other bases/planets in the Gorn theater.
Not much is happening on the Rom/Fed front*...
…
and major assaults are occurring the Federation North and North West - no attack on Sol this turn.
Once more - no combat on the Hydran front.
* - Alliance turn 22 should see a lot of Coalition crippled ships dying...
...as I was able (or will do after combat) cut the Federation 6th Fleet SB and associated planets off from the Federation main grid.... and there is a huge stack of cripples in 3611!!
Hopefully several Federation Fleets will also end the turn out of supply...but William can affect so many battles, nothing else is certain.
7 battles have been concluded.
Over 3509 - which initially was just a pinning battle (and I was expecting a reserve to go there) nearly became a Coalition victory in capturing the planet (I had marginally more compot, but no EW and William had more Defensive Compot as he had the undevastated planet and RDU).
Winning the first two rounds made it close...but losing the last 3 rounds meant the planet was safe, but was devastated and I lost a D5 plus several cripples to each side.
In Gorn space - 2 minor plants have been captured and the Gorns got some revenge over 4904, with a BHE and SN being self killed (was hoping to keep it to one self kill, but the 5004 forces retreated into 4904 bumping his compot up marginally).
4903 did see a Gorn DD die though.
In Kzinti space, 1101 saw a FF on each side being directed (and William captured the Lyran FF, which then died in the pursuit battle) and 1702 saw a Kzinti CL die in exchange for a Lyran DD.
The Kzinti retreated in both battles.
Just the main Federation and Gorn battles remain.
Dice (other than capture and Offensive Cloaks) have been pretty balanced overall.
The second batch of battles has now been done.... and 2 Romulan Admirals have been fired.
The attacks on SB's 4206 and 4806 have both been cancelled due to the incompetency of the Admirals and the poor execution of the plans.
Both attacking fleets were too carrier heavy - as forming a respectable battle line wasn't going to be easy - and the weighting of the attack (4206 was supposed to have enough to kill the SB, even if a reserve turned up) somehow failed too - another 6 or ships needed to be in 4206.
So both Romulan fleets fled with their tails between their legs (I could have assaulted both and could have done some serious damage, soaking a lot of damage up on fighters, but 4206 had 4 crippled escorts in the attacking force (and so pursuit could have been tricky) and 4806 had a captured mauler defending it....
Other battles have seen 4309 liberated and the death of a Gorn DD, 3118 and 3317 see the battered Federation forces battered once more losing a FF and NCL which was captured) .
3210 was valiantly defended by the Federation with the Klingons losing a TGB and the Federation a NCL.
In 3212 a lone Kzinti CVL died in SSC (I was expecting a reserve to turn up here) and in 2510/2610, the battered Coalition forces from the Fall 178 Sol offensive finally escaped - losing a CWE and DWS.
However over 2510, the Federation did lose a FV and ECL in the battle (mauled) and 2 x FF's in the pursuit battle.
2306 saw the Coalition lost a D6M in pursuit, but did maul the last 3 PDU's from the planet.
Final 4 battles remain to be done.
Well, no carriers die for ages.... and then 3 die (so far!) in a turn.
In some truly some savage and hand to hand fighting over 2403 - every single ship bar a Lyran FF was crippled (both Coalition and Alliance).
Coalition self killed a D5 and 2 x D6's....
…. and the Alliance lost a Federation CVL, a NCL, a MB and 2 x PDU....with 2403 being captured!
With only 1 battle go - dice have been good to the Coalition for once.
VBIR averaged 3.733, Coalition 4.04 and the first time ever, Alliance less than 3 at 2.98.
and combat is over.
Federation lost a NCL, both sides took cripples and 2505 was captured/re-liberated from the evil Federation.
Other than the messed up SB Romulan Assaults - a good turn for the Coalition.
Federation Economy is down about 90 Eps (so about 55 Ep's after Offmap and NZ's boost it) - but one objective for the turn was met.
3611 is a large partial grid - and 2103 also ends in a Partial Grid.
Ignoring base supply - about 110 Alliance hulls are out of supply.... (plus the cripples - 3611 has ALOT of cripples, 22 to be precise and about 60% of the ships have base supply).
That's seems a lot....but it looks about right!! Will count it all later.
Who invented Supply Tugs?
(It would appear part of the master plan will fail...…..)
Darn Supply Tugs!!
Losses for the C22 are
Lyrans - CWE, DWS, DD and FF
Klingons - D6M, D7, 2 x D6, TGB and 2 x D5
Romulans - BHE, 2 x SN and K4
Kzinti - CVL, CL and FF
Hydrans - Nothing
Federation - CVL, 5 x NCL (1 captured), ECL, FV, FFE, 2 x FF, MB and 5 x PDU's
Gorn - 2 x DD
Gorns had 2 previously captured planets recaptured and Federation had 2 planets captured (1 newly captured) - plus had a Major Planet devastated.
No Federation planets west of 28XX or south of XX09 inclusive have any defences left (plus 3706 has no defences).
Coalition turn 22 has been concluded.
The bulk of the Coalition cripples are able to retrograde to full safety (out of range) or modest safety (1401).
Some cripples are vulnerable though, 2106 and the Tholian front.
Klingons dispatch their new 2 PFT's to the Hydran front (and a new Carrier), to maintain the bloackaid.
Lyran reserves are set up 1401, 1910 and 2509.
Klingon reserves are in 2214, 2610, 2715 and 3013.
Lyran reserves are in 4613, 4407 and 3518.
Romualns get 5 Escorts Field repaired for 10 Eps and Klingons Field Repair 4 carriers and a Scout, spending 13 Ep's.
Lyrans spend 6 Ep's on replacement PF's and send 10 Ep's to the Klingons.
Currently a scattering of Coalition ships are either out of supply or receive base supply only.
A Federation supply tug will get the bulk of the 3611 partial grid (about 70 hulls in total) back into supply, but nearly 20 Alliance hulls are out of supply (and can't be put into supply) and another dozen or so Kzinti hulls will be out of supply, unless Homeless supply is provided. Another two dozen or so Alliance hulls have base supply.