By Jeffrey Coutu (Jtc) on Friday, February 19, 2016 - 01:21 pm: Edit

Most of the errata listed below are minor rule reference errors. Unfortunately I did not notice the items listed below until recently or I would have reported them earlier, although some entries are because of changes in the latest release.

(518.22) In the row listing units that can use 2 SWACS, remove two “DVA‡” entries since the unit is listed three times. Jeffrey Coutu 19 Feb 2016

(518.43) In the Battle Intensity modifier list, in the text “Lyrans, LDR (except fighters)” add “Seltorians” so the final text would be “Lyrans, LDR, Seltorians (except fighters)”. The current list includes “Seltorian fighters” but no other Seltorian units and I assume the Seltorian non-fighters should have a zero modifier. Jeffrey Coutu 19 Feb 2016

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Sunday, June 13, 2021 - 03:18 am: Edit

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Saturday, February 20, 2016 - 01:20 pm: Edit

(549.25) add (204.0) after strategic movemnt. This gives the reference to the strategic movement rules as modifided by (549.25). Thomas Mathews 20 Feb 2015

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Saturday, July 23, 2016 - 12:50 pm: Edit

(514.62) Swarms cannot be adopted by other empires as homeless units should read: Swarms cannot be adopted by other empires as homeless units (410.5). (410.5) is the rule regarding supply for homeless units. Thomas Mathews 23 July 2016

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Monday, July 25, 2016 - 08:10 am: Edit

(527.141) Each starbase, sector base and battle station receives one squadron of nine F-111 factors. Each stellar fortress receives two squadrons should read: each base station, sector base, and battle station receives one squadron of nine F-111 factors. Each starbase and stellar fortress receives two squadrons. Rational: each base station, sector base and battle station receives 1 full PF flotilla and each starbase and stellar fortress receive 2 full PF flotillas under (502.62). Thomas Mathwes 25 July 2016

By Ryan Opel (Ryan) on Thursday, March 30, 2017 - 10:49 am: Edit

(530.212) Add to Turn #21: Sector Bases, Base Stations?. COMMENT: The Sector Bases specifically mention when they get heavy fighters, the Base Station rule does not but I assume it would be the same as the Battle Station. Ryan J Opel 30 Mar 2017

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Sunday, June 13, 2021 - 05:59 pm: Edit

(518.2) The limit on the number of SWACs that can be used is the carrying units, not the Battle Force. If a Federation CVA with two SWACs is defending an SB which has two SWACs of its own, all four can be used. In a ridiculous example, five defense brigades, two CVA groups, two starbases, and a BCV group could have a potential 14 SWACS deployed at once. You might not find jobs for all 14, but you could have that many available.
(518.22) A sector base can use one SWAC.

By Jason E. Schaff (Jschaff297061) on Tuesday, June 22, 2021 - 11:41 am: Edit

530.23 - Typo

The Tholians use a pack carried by CPC, LRR, and FCR ships.

should be

The Tholians use a pack carried by CPC, LTT, and FCR ships

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, June 23, 2021 - 11:31 am: Edit

STRATCON ALERT: There is stuff here and in the AA report on 527, 530, 549.

By Ryan Opel (Ryan) on Wednesday, October 27, 2021 - 10:07 pm: Edit

(527.25) First Para. Last Sentance, ...carriers,,, should be ...carried... Ryan J Opel 27 Oct 21

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Friday, January 21, 2022 - 10:34 am: Edit

(518.46) an E3 SWAC from Advanced Operations would allow up to six additional fighter factors. (Note: the limit is three or six factors and this does not allow players to use 4 or 8 or 9 or 10 factors of F-14s, F-111s, or A-20s.) should read: an E3 SWAC from Advanced Operations would allow up to six additional fighter factors. (Note: the limit is three or six factors and this does not allow players to use 4 or 8 or 9 or 10 factors of F-14s, F-15s, F-111s, or A-20s.) Reason: Add F-15s to the special fighters not allowed to be controlled by a SWAC under the fighter control mission. Thomas Mathews 21 Jan 2022

By Daniel Glenn Knipfer (Dgknipfer) on Saturday, January 22, 2022 - 10:44 am: Edit

I'm pretty sure that a squadron of F-14s or F-15s should be allowed. These special squadrons have the same number of fighters as the F-18 (just better fighters). I'm less sure about A-20s and F-111s. I think the simple solution is to allow the E3 SWAC to control one squadron of fighters, and note that oversized squadrons may not be controlled by the E3 SWAC.

By Richard Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Saturday, January 22, 2022 - 02:27 pm: Edit

Pretty sure this has come up in Q&A and the answer is fighter factors, not squadrons, 6 fighter factors is the max.

By Daniel Glenn Knipfer (Dgknipfer) on Saturday, January 22, 2022 - 03:25 pm: Edit

That would by why I said should, instead of are allowed. How is the rule for the E3 written in SFB; because that is what SVC will look to if adjusting the rule.

By Jamey Johnston (Totino) on Saturday, January 22, 2022 - 04:21 pm: Edit

At least in any of the material I have to reference, this is an exclusively F&E rule. In SFB, I don't think SWAC shuttles can be used to allow you to bring more fighters into a battle force than would otherwise be allowed.

I don't own all of the CLs so it's possible this rule does exist _somewhere_ in SFB and I'm just unaware of it.

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Saturday, January 22, 2022 - 07:54 pm: Edit

Full Rule

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Quote:

(518.46) FIGHTER CONTROL MISSION: One (and only one) SWAC in each battle force could be assigned to this mission in a given battle round. The effect is to allow an increase in Federation fighter strength above the normal limit of three squadrons (or of four squadrons in the “Third Way” rules). The extra fighters could be from a carrier in the battle force or a carrier outside the force that sends fighters into it (in which case they would count against command limits). The effect of an E2 SWAC using this mission is to allow up to three additional fighter factors; an E3 SWAC from Advanced Operations would allow up to six additional fighter factors. (Note: the limit is three or six factors and this does not allow players to use 4 or 8 or 9 or 10 factors of F-14s, F-111s, or A-20s.)

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By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Saturday, January 22, 2022 - 07:56 pm: Edit

(518.45) and (518.46) The example regarding mulitple SWACs is currently at the end of (518.46) but applies to (518.45). Recommend moving the example to the end of (518.45). Thomas Mathews 22 Jan 2022

By Jamey Johnston (Totino) on Sunday, January 23, 2022 - 02:58 am: Edit

The way I interpret that rule I don't know that it's critical to list every possible excluded fighter. Personally, I take it to be explaining that you can't use "special" fighters to exceed the limit, but I don't think it's prohibiting those fighters at all. IOW, I would assume that an E3 could allow you to add 6 fighter factors of F-14s, for example. The rule, to me, is saying that you get to add 6 FF _period_, and you can't use special fighters to squeak out any _extra_ FF above the 6.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Sunday, January 23, 2022 - 05:56 am: Edit

What does the SFB rule state (S8.0?) about SWACs controlling a squadron. The F&E Staff has a directive to follow the standards set in SFB and since we are updating AO-2003 (which include the E3 SWAC) then now is a good time to revise the rule to reflect the SFB standard.

By A David Merritt (Adm) on Sunday, January 23, 2022 - 09:49 am: Edit

Looking over both (J8.0)SWACs and (S8.0) this does not appear to be in SFB.

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Sunday, January 23, 2022 - 11:36 am: Edit

Adding to ADM above.

There is nothing in any of the J2 module rules either.

By Jamey Johnston (Totino) on Sunday, January 23, 2022 - 05:05 pm: Edit

My review of the rules comes to the same conclusion, rule 518.46 has _no_ SFB equivalent. Essentially, in SFB a Fed player can bring 4 squadrons (one of which can be OS, making effectively 5 squadrons for purposes of EW allocation and such), assuming a legal CVBG is built. The only way to have extra fighters in SFB above that number would be if they qualify as "hybrid" fighters, and Feds have very few ships that qualify that way.

TL;DR:
In SFB, the presence or absence of a SWAC shuttle in a fleet has _no bearing whatsoever_ on how many fighters can be included in that fleet.

By taifeHeft on Monday, October 24, 2022 - 11:26 pm: Edit

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By Jason E. Schaff (Jschaff297061) on Monday, February 27, 2023 - 05:10 pm: Edit

(518.22) The SFX is listed both with the units able to operate 2 SWACs and those able to operate 1 SWAC. The entry for 1 SWAC is probably supposed to be STX.

By priligy farmacia on Sunday, March 30, 2025 - 03:22 pm: Edit

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