(625.597) Special Bases and Planet Dispositions: Klingons are listed as adding a STX to 1502. This is deep in Kzinti territory.... The Kzinti are *also* listed as adding a STX to 1502. Is this just a bad duplication, or should the Klingons have a STX added somewhere else? - James Lowry 12/14/2011

By Ryan Opel (Feast) on Saturday, July 24, 2021 - 12:23 am: Edit

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Saturday, December 17, 2011 - 02:01 pm: Edit

A clarification on (625.22).

In some cases, a given NZ cordon stops short of a given neutral zone's full length; for example, Cordon Bravo stopping as far coreward as hex 3908. Do the PEZs and CEZs surrounding the cordon lines extend into these unoccupied NZ hexes, or are they only on one side or another of a given cordon line?

(To stick with the eample of the cordon hex in 3908; does it impose a PEZ on hexes 3807, 3907 and 4007, and CEZs into hexes 3707, 3806, 3906, 4006 and 4107; or do the zones of enforcement only apply to the hexes perpendicular to the cordon line which hex 3908 is at the coreward terminus of, i.e. with PEZs in 3808 and 4008, and CEZs in 3708 and 4108, with no "rounding out" of the cordon areas?)

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Saturday, December 17, 2011 - 03:05 pm: Edit

Gary:

Hexes 3909/1906/1215 would be treated as PEZ hexes and hexes 3808/1905/1316 would be treated as CEZ hexes BY THE ISC in this scenario; the other empires treat these as traditional neutral zone hexes or Vudar territory as appropriate.

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Saturday, December 17, 2011 - 03:25 pm: Edit

Chuck:

Understood about the Cordon Foxtrot zones; but to clarify, have the listed areas for cordons Bravo and Delta been adjusted?

(Based on the numbers above, Cordon Bravo should stop in hex 3910, and Delta in hex 1907. However, my revision of the book has them continue on to 3908 and 1904; which would make hexes 3907 and 1903 PEZs, and 3906 and 2002 CEZs.)
By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Saturday, December 17, 2011 - 07:17 pm: Edit

Gary:

The ISC neutral zone EASEMENT is one hex wide between former General War ENEMIES (Klingon/Lyran & Klingon/Vudar zones included); see (625.22). Their Pacification Charter for their neutral zone Pacification transit network didn't include 3808 or 3909; these are simply looked at by the ISC as CEZ and PEZ hexes respectively and as standard and by-in-largely un-enterable neutral zone hexes by the Gorns and Feds during this scenario.
By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Saturday, December 17, 2011 - 11:42 pm: Edit

James Lowry:

(625.597) TYPO: Special Bases and Planet Dispositions: Change Klingons STX listing from hex 1502 to 1514; see reference (625.D432). STRONG - 17 Dec 2011

By Ryan Opel (Feast) on Saturday, July 24, 2021 - 12:26 am: Edit

By James Lowry (Rindis) on Monday, December 26, 2011 - 04:15 pm: Edit

(625.461) ROMP Assignement: This rule mentions "...ROMP units can return to their previously assigned fleets." I'm not seeing any reference as to which fleets those are. (625.462) states the contents of the six ROMP corps, and (713.0) makes no mention of them. -James Lowry 26 Dec 2011

By James Lowry (Rindis) on Tuesday, December 27, 2011 - 12:57 am: Edit

(625.B23) Planet 3912: By the general format of the scenario, this neutral zone planet should have its own note at this rule number, but there is no mention of the fate of the planet. -James Lowry 26 Dec 2011

(625.E23) Planet 1506: By the general format of the scenario, this neutral zone planet should have its own note at this rule number, but there is no mention of the fate of the planet. -James Lowry 26 Dec 2011

(625.E433) Kzinti Base and Planet Disposition: The status of Kzinti bases along the Kzinti-Lyran neutral zone is not defined. The status of planets 1105 and 1802 is not mentioned. (The first two would seem to have no PDUs by the notes on destroyed bases, but are they devastated?) -James Lowry 26 Dec 2011

(625.E433) Kzinti Base and Planet Disposition: This rule has all Kzinti bases along the Federation neutral zone as destroyed. However, when last seen (Winds of Fire, Y181 (617.B1)), the Kzinti have already rebuilt 1902 have the standard two PDUs back on 1802, and have a MB in 1803. (And another BATS and MB on the actual Klingon neutral zone, but they would be much less likely to survive.)

(625.F422) Klingon Base and Planet Disposition: The status of Klingon bases along the Klingon-Hydran neutral zone is not defined. (Though probably intact, given (617.A3) in Winds of Fire.) -James Lowry 26 Dec 2011

(625.Z423) "There is an STX, a colony base with 2xPDU and a PRD over the planet at 4916." It looks like that should read 'with the BATS in 4916." (Or maybe it was upgraded to the STX?) -James Lowry 26 Dec 2011

(625.Z423) A Romulan colony is listed in 5601, on the upper (Gorn) edge of the map. Given the planet in 5619, I believe 5617 is meant. -James Lowry 26 Dec 2011.

By Ryan Opel (Feast) on Saturday, July 24, 2021 - 12:27 am: Edit

By Jeffrey Coutu (Jtc) on Thursday, April 26, 2012 - 01:27 pm: Edit

(625.251) Incorrect rule reference; change "see (625.521)" to "see (625.551)". Jeff Coutu - 26 Apr 2012

(625.585) Incorrect rule reference; change (316.0) to (314.0). Jeff Coutu - 26 Apr 2012

(625.585) Part of the text for this rule is "The forces in any cordon may make more than three standard raids". I believe the text "may make more" should be "may not make more". Jeff Coutu - 26 Apr 2012

(625.586) Incorrect rule reference; change (625.582) to (625.572). Jeff Coutu - 26 Apr 2012

(625.A511) Adding up the income from all cordon scenarios results in 100% of the ISC income being used except during Y188S when only 80% is being used. I am guessing that for (625.A511) and (625.B511) the income on Y188S should have been the same as listed for Y188F (i.e., 10%) which would make the total 100%. The income from the cordon scenarios in Y188S is: A=0%, B=0%, C=10%, D=20%, E=20%, F=20%, Y=5%, Z=5% for a total of 80%. For Y188F it is the same except cordon A and B both have 10% income. Jeff Coutu - 26 Apr 2012

(625.B511) Adding up the income from all cordon scenarios results in 100% of the ISC income being used except during Y188S when only 80% is being used. I am guessing that for (625.A511) and (625.B511) the income on Y188S should have been the same as listed for Y188F (i.e., 10%) which would make the total 100%. The income from the cordon scenarios in Y188S is: A=0%, B=0%, C=10%, D=20%, E=20%, F=20%, Y=5%, Z=5% for a total of 80%. For Y188F it is the same except cordon A and B both have 10% income. Jeff Coutu - 26 Apr 2012

(625.D511) Change "Y188S-Y187F" to "Y187S-Y187F". This rule has the following income dates Y186F, Y188S-Y187F, and Y188S+. From this I assume that Y188S-Y187F should have been Y187S-Y187F. Jeff Coutu - 26 Apr 2012

(625.E) CORDON ECHO. This rule is miss-numbered as (625.0) but should be (625.E). Jeff Coutu - 26 Apr 2012

By Ryan Opel (Feast) on Saturday, July 24, 2021 - 12:29 am: Edit

(624.0) reference to Driving Winds scenario (625) be (625.0). Corrected cross reference. Thomas Mathews 27 Jun 2012

By Ryan Opel (Feast) on Saturday, July 24, 2021 - 12:29 am: Edit

(624.72)add reference: See (654.0). Adds improved cross reference to the limited war rules. Thomas Matehws 12 Aug 2012

By Ryan Opel (Feast) on Saturday, July 24, 2021 - 12:30 am: Edit

(624.43) Seventh Fleet: (Seven ships, no auxiliaries) should read: (Seven ships, one auxiliary). The SAS is the small auxiliary scout. Thomas Mathews 21 Apr 2013 STRONG: Concurs.

By Ryan Opel (Feast) on Saturday, July 24, 2021 - 12:31 am: Edit

(624.27): The Inter-Stellar Concordium is at a peacetime economy for the duration of the Gathering Winds scenario. According to (431.21) in F&E 2010, an empire can build a mobile base in addition to its scheduled production "if at war". However, in this case, the Y168 ISC OOB in (624.43) has only six pre-constructed MBs available, yet has twelve on-map BATS locations to attempt to place bases into. Should there be an exception made for the ISC allowing them to build MBs while at a peacetime economy, or is there a pre-existing detail which I may have overlooked? Gary Carney 22 January 2014.

(624.43): The set-up areas for the Second, Third, Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Fleets include the outer ring of provinces (6003, 5903, 5604, 5306, 5209, 5211, 5413, 5716, and 6016) which under (624.22) have yet to be integrated into the ISC. If the deployment areas are left as-is, the ISC player would be able to get a "head-start" on capturing these provinces by simply placing his ships from the relevant fleets there at setup. Is this intentional, or should the ISC start from within its pre-Y168 territory instead? If the latter, I may suggest the Second Fleet setting up in provinces 6005 and 5905 only, the Third in 5606 only, the Fourth in 5409 only, the Fifth in 5713 and 6013 only, and the Sixth in 5411 only. Gary Carney 22 January 2014.

(624.3): Over in (625.3), it's noted that the Pacification scenario begins with the ISC Player Turn on Turn #1, and ends on the Non-Aligned Player(s) Turn on Turn #10. But in this earlier scenario, whose Player Turn goes first: the Gorn/Romulan side, or the ISC? The notes in (624.26) only refer to the order in which the Gorns and Romulans alternate their movement in their shared Player Turn. But there is a line in (624.261) which states that the Romulans and Gorns "are for the purposes of convenience considered the Alliance". If that means the Gorns and Romulans move in the Alliance Player Turn, does the ISC then go first alongside the Coalition? (This would also be worth noting were this scenario to be played alongside The Wind.) Gary Carney 22 January 2014.

By Ryan Opel (Feast) on Saturday, July 24, 2021 - 12:34 am: Edit

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Sunday, May 04, 2014 - 10:13 am: Edit

(624.3) Romulan Forces: All Units in the Home Fleet under (704.0) not listed as PWC. The PWC schedule is as follows:
Home Fleet:
Turn 1 Y168F: SP, SPF, SK, WE/KE.
Turn 2 Y169S: 3xK4*, 2xSK.
Turn 3 Y169F: No production.
Turn 4 Y170S: SUP, WE/KE.
Turn 5 Y170F: CON, [SPB,2xSKE].
Turn 6 Y171S: 3xSP, SKF, [SKB, SKE].
Turn 7 Y171F: No production.
Turn 8 Y172S: KC9Ü, FFH.
Turn 9 Y172F: SP, [3xSP>SPC]*

WE/KE is a War Eagle conversion to King Eagle. A War Eagle must be at an eligible starbase for this conversion to be conducted.

* The the SP to SPC conversions refer to the Romulan Survey Ships for turn 10 when the Romulans go to war with the Federation. If playing with SO these units are those listed under SO.

NOTE: The above schedule is proposed and subject to change. It is /b{not} the full Romulan Turn 1 thru 9 construction schedule.

By Ryan Opel (Feast) on Saturday, July 24, 2021 - 12:36 am: Edit

(625.596) Existing Klingon Minor Shipyards: OMISSION - Change to read:
Klingons
MSY-D5: 1509-C and 1716-D
MSY-F5: 1716-D, 2318-D, 1509-C
Rationale: Some of these were missing from the transcript. Strong - 6 July 2015

(625.E433) There are some disagreement between ISC War and Winds of Fire (617.B1) as to what bases are still standing. In WoF the Kzinti have rebuilt BATS in 1704, 1902, and 1805 and have MBs in 1304, 1605, and 1803. Additionally, the additional defenses at Kzintai and the rest of the 1401 planets aren't mentioned. I can see the Coalition being able to take out some of these but some of these, especially the northern FED border BATS should still be around. Ryan J Opel 29 Nov 15

By Ryan Opel (Feast) on Saturday, July 24, 2021 - 12:37 am: Edit

(625.E441) (See Non-Aligned OOB) should read "See Non-Aligned OOB (711.0)." The Lyran Order of Battle is listed under (711.0) in ISC War. The line in "" includes a punctuation correction as well. Thomas Mathews 23 Oct 2016

(625.Y421) (See Non-Aligned OOB.) should read See Non-Aligned OOB (706.0). The Gorn Order of Battle is listed under (706.0) in ISC War. Thomas Mathews 23 Oct 2016

(625.Y422) (See Non-Aligned OOB.) should read See Non-Aligned OOB (706.0). The Gorn Order of Battle is listed under (706.0) in ISC War. Thomas Mathews 23 Oct 2016

(625.61) second line BTS-300% should read: BTX-300%. Typo. S should be X representing a X-Battle Station. Thomas Mathews 7 Feb 2017

By Ryan Opel (Feast) on Saturday, July 24, 2021 - 12:38 am: Edit

(624.54) add at the end of the rule: This is an exception to (542.26). This provides the reference that limit the increase of survey ships to a maximum of three survey units. Thomas Mathews 26 Mar 2017

By Ryan Opel (Feast) on Saturday, July 24, 2021 - 12:39 am: Edit

(624.43) ISC Order of Battle Third Fleet: APT should be PTR. Reason: The forward Fleet along the Gorn ISC border should match the forward Romulan ISC border fleet exactly. Thomas Mathews 14 Oct 2019

(624.43) PODS: Add One torpedo pod, can build a mx of two. Reasoning: The TP have a YIS date of Y160 in G3. Note that the rule states the pods are in sets. Thomas Mathews 23 Oct 2020

CHANGE TO READ: (625.E433) Kzinti Base and Planet Disposition: All bases along the Klingon-Kzinti and Lyran-Kzinti Neutral Zones were destroyed except for a newly built BTS at 0904 ("Rampart"). Ryan Opel 13 Jun 21