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| By Gary Quick (Northquick) on Monday, February 28, 2022 - 05:23 pm: Edit |
Tale of the Fleets
(Counted by defense):
| 8+ | 7 | 6- | Total | |
| Klingon | 86 | 64 | 202 | 352 |
| Lyran | 30 | 41 | 98 | 169 |
| Totals | 116 | 105 | 300 | 521 |
| 8+ | 7 | 6- | Total | |
| Kzinti | 37 | 16 | 73 | 126 |
| Hydran | 13 | 11 | 58 | 82 |
| Federation | 39 | 16 | 108 | 163 |
| Totals | 89 | 43 | 239 | 371 |
| By Ted Fay (Catwhoeatsphoto) on Monday, February 28, 2022 - 06:20 pm: Edit |
Indeed. Turns 2-15 are the hardest for the Alliance.
However, exhaustion and ship attrition start to take the toll soon... We'll see how it goes!
| By Gary Quick (Northquick) on Tuesday, March 01, 2022 - 06:33 pm: Edit |
If you would take a turn just to change the paint schemes on the ships, that would help. 
| By Gary Quick (Northquick) on Wednesday, April 13, 2022 - 10:02 pm: Edit |
Alliance Turn 9
Kzinti
Income: 50 (plus Wyn, Fed gifts)
Builds: 2xMEC, MSC, FFK, FKE, 4xFF
Repairs: 4xMEC, MSC, SF, FFK, EFF, 2xFF
Convert: FFK>FKE, FF>FCR
Hydran
Income: 32
Builds: Shipyard, PGV(free)
Repairs: 4xTR, 2xCU
Federation
Income: 191
Builds: DN+, CVL, 6xNCL, FCR, FFE, 4xFF, swac
Mothballs: CA, 3xCL, 3xFF, DD
Repairs: BN, CA, CVS, NCL, DD, FFE, 5xFF
Convert: DN>DN+, CA>CVS, DD>DE
Nothing too exciting economics-wise.
Objective for turn will be continue to engage in smaller fights. Coalition continues to have pincount superiority in Hydran and Kzinti theaters, protecting key targets.
| By Gary Quick (Northquick) on Wednesday, April 13, 2022 - 10:14 pm: Edit |
AT9 is Complete
So ends Y172....
Losses
Coalition: D5, 3xF5, F5G, 2xE4, E4A, FF
Alliance: MEC, F-FF, HN, HNG
All fights went only 1 round and were typically one-sided. There were a couple of larger clashes, but they also only went one round each.
| By Ted Fay (Catwhoeatsphoto) on Friday, February 10, 2023 - 11:21 am: Edit |
Holy Cow.... I hadn't realized just how long it has been since either of us reported on this game...
It is now CT13, operational movement!
I can't really remember without reviewing the move files how CT10 through AT12 worked out. However, I will give a few highlights.
HTO past:
The Hydrans held onto SB 215, but are otherwise only offmap. I made one abortive attempt to destroy the SB, severely crippling a lot of the Hydran navy, but not quite having the umph to take out the SB. Poor planning on my part.
HTO present:
Trying again to destroy SB215. I think I have enough to succeed this time.
ZTO past:
Mostly I've been containing the Kzinti, retrograding to my Lyran SB at 1506 and Klingon SB at 1403, and allowing him to stomp pickets on alliance turns. So, Kzinti planets trade hands basically every game turn. The pattern will likely repeat itself.
ZTO present:
He now has slight more Kzinti SEQ than I have in Coalition SEQ. On AT13 he could theoretically start coming out to play and probe Klingon or Lyran space, which would force me to divert ships to the ZTO. But that is later. This is now.
FTO past:
I slowly made progress without taking too much in the way of cripples. Orion is now occupied, but in a state of permanent rebellion due to the way the new resistance rules work (I only have so many G ships). However, I now own all Fed space west of 28XX (within 2 hexes of Earth). The Romulans own all Fed space south of the line of provinces from 3110, 3309, 3509, and 3708. The Feds maintain their connection to the offmap. 3rd, 4th, 6th, and 7th SBs are all destroyed. I think turn 11 or 12 I bring the first B10AA Invincible online, and tell Star Fleet Command that it is coming for shore leave at SFHQ at San Francisco, Earth.
FTO present:
I have something close to 250 SEQ in range of Earth, and he has something like 180 SEQ in defenders. However, I have not yet touched his planets. So, the Federation will not fall this turn. There is the potential for a great deal of pow-pow this turn, though!
Gorn Past:
The Gorn came out in support of the Federation in Federation space, but then retreated and defended their own territory. They did NOT attack the Romulans. I checked the scenario rules, and the strategy had an interesting effect I've never seen before. Namely, while the Roms may attack the Gorns, Romulan North fleet remains unreleased. The release condition for Romulan North fleet is if the Gorns attack the Romulans (which I take to mean invading Romulan space). See 603.2, Turn #13, last sentence. That keeps roughly a quarter of the Romulan fleet unable to move, and makes it a lot more difficult to attack Gorn space. Theoretically, this situation could go on until turn #CT20, when all Romulan fleets are released anyway. But that's a lot of turns where more or less I can't effectively use 30 Romulan ships.
Gorn Present:
The Romulans are attacking border bats 4008, 4209, 4408, and 4608, as well as planet 4309 (which went Gorn during earlier diplomacy). So far, no reactions. However, because North Fleet is unexpectedly not released, I am not in a position to do much more than that. I had two powerful reserves in 4514, anticipating a Gorn attack, but since the Gorns didn't attack - they are rear deployed.
The bulk of the available Romulan navy (50 SEQ) is in 3609 (having been driven from 3511 by a large Federation fleet)
They are in range of SB 3008 and a brand new SB over major planet 3306, and 5th fleet SB, but each of these hard points is *well* defended. They are quite safe from my pitiful little band... Message from the Federation Chancellor
Operational movement is ongoing, of course, I only just started it really. But I've already sent a large fleet of Lyrans to attack SB 2808 and the Federation capital. I have almost 200 more ships to move within 4 hexes of Earth...
Current map (if you have access to Cyberboard): Cyberboard Game Map File
Picture of the map, if you don't: picture of map
Current Eco Files for All Powers:
Klingon Eco
Lyran Eco
Romulan Eco
Federation Eco
Kzinti Eco
Hydran Eco
Gorn Eco
Onward to the rest of CT13!
| By William Jockusch (Verybadcat) on Sunday, February 19, 2023 - 11:24 pm: Edit |
I took a look at both the game file and the econ files. It looks like the Fed economy took a beating on the turns since Romulan entry. Obviously they have got to be hoping that the Gorns will help them stabilize.
In basic game turns, the economy imbalance would be daunting. But in the full game, I've seen examples where the Alliance get pushed way back on the board, yet manage to turn things around and go on the attack later. So I don't know. The SB the Feds built have to be helping them, and the Kzinti fleet looks strong, which again has to help.
I see a lot of the Fed planets are in rebellion. What is the impact of that?
| By Ted Fay (Catwhoeatsphoto) on Monday, February 20, 2023 - 10:58 am: Edit |
Impact is that the Klingons get less income and have fewer supply points to launch raids and penetrate deeper in to Fed territory. They also serve as a fair irritant in that they are valid reserve fleet target hexes.
These are the consequences of the new rebellion rule - basically it's HARD to keep planets in line now. Which may or may not be a good thing. Currently it's under review, but has been for the better part of a year. At this rate it will probably be Stratcon 2023 before it's resolved.
Right now the Alliance is on the ropes, I agree. However, that could change, as you say.
Frankly, I've under-occupied Kzinti space. They could get quite frisky if they chose to. So far, they haven't, biding their time. Who knows? Maybe that will change AT13.
The Hydrans are nearly crushed. However, I'm making another all-out SB assault. If the dice go his way I might fail again (I tried to account for that, but further analysis makes that uncertain). If the SB goes down, the Hydrans will more or less be forced offmap and would have a hard time threatening Lyran space. If it doesn't... Well, we'll see I suppose.
This turn I just took out the Rom border BATS. I have two deeper Gorn BATS I'm attaching, but both are being vigorously defended. But in the meantime I've basically only bloodied the Gorn nose.
It's still a game of it, but at this point I'll give the Coalition roughly 60% of ultimate victory. But that very much remains to be seen.
I mean, the Eagles were ahead after the 1st half of Superbowl 2023, but the Chiefs still pulled it out.
Go Chiefs!
(I reside in Kansas now. Kind of have to root for Chiefs...)
| By Gary Quick (Northquick) on Tuesday, February 21, 2023 - 06:01 pm: Edit |
Oh, I think it's over. Probably has been since T7/T8 actually.
I thought the Gorn/Rom interplay was cute, but I don't think it has helped as much as I hoped, as the Roms moved a lot of additional ships to the Gorn border.
I'll do an update of ships and econ after the Coalition turn.
But, my current eval is:
Coalition - lots of ships, too much econ.
Kzinti - are in good (relatively) shape. The K SB in 1403 is a real pain. If I recall, I was pinned out one, but had a second chance to get into the hex, but I calculated that what was left after pinning wouldn't be enough after reserves. Maybe I should've gone for it?
Hydran - Also doing well (relatively) in that they are still on the map. That may end this turn, though.
Feds - fleet is in decent shape. econ not. Inner hardpoints are ok, outer fell too easily.
Gorns - are Gorns, too few ships but at least high quality.
The summary from my perspective would be that Ted let off the pressure on Kzinti after building the SB, and slow-rolled the Hydrans, leaving 200+ K ships to hit the Federation T7. And has chewed away since then with econ denial an important aspect.
| By Ted Fay (Catwhoeatsphoto) on Tuesday, February 21, 2023 - 06:28 pm: Edit |
Gary's summary is succinct and dead-on.
Maybe not over, though. I don't have that much repair capacity that is forward deployed. I could easily overextend the damage I take attacking the Federation capital systems, and then lose my forward deployed position - which would be hard to recover. However, if I take too long to get the job done, then eco exhaustion will set in and the Feds will get to shine.
But, yeah, I think the Coalition still has the leg up on this one.
| By Paul Howard (Raven) on Thursday, February 23, 2023 - 04:43 pm: Edit |
It will be interesting to see where this one goes.
Along as the Alliance can keep the Core of Federation space 'Federation', the Economic side of the game does drag the Coalition down and that can't be underestimated - it's amazing how quickly the Coalition Ep's...., just vanish on turn 16!!!
That will dictate whether the Coalition hold the borders just inside Federation space until the end of the game (with enough ships, they should be able to and accept new ship construction will be only marginally in favour of the Alliance) or will gradually be pushed back.
| By Gary Quick (Northquick) on Tuesday, June 13, 2023 - 05:26 pm: Edit |
Coalition Turn 13 is complete.
Highlights for the turn include: destruction of last on-map Hydran SB 0213, Joint Coalition raid on the Federation Capital, and Romulans storming across the Gorn Border.
Ship Counts
| 8+ | 7 | 6- | ||
| Klingon | 94 | 83 | 236 | |
| Lyran | 32 | 51 | 113 | |
| Romulan | 64 | 27 | 137 | |
| Totals | 190 | 161 | 486 | 837 |
| 8+ | 7 | 6- | ||
| Federation | 50 | 47 | 161 | |
| Kzinti | 38 | 28 | 87 | |
| Hydran | 12 | 19 | 49 | |
| Gorn | 36 | 13 | 53 | 593 |
| By Ted Fay (Catwhoeatsphoto) on Thursday, June 22, 2023 - 07:30 pm: Edit |
This game is "shelved."
Coalition has a marked advantage, and has already started assaulting the Fed capital.
However, the Alliance could still come back, so no winner is declared. Theoretically we could come back to this one.
Gary and I are now playing in "Their Finest Hour."
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