Well, if the Alliance gets too enthusiastic with selfkilling Tholians, you can always go conquer Tholia for the VPs.

By William Jockusch (Verybadcat) on Monday, September 07, 2020 - 08:06 pm: Edit

Lol, the Tholians will have PFs shortly. So at Tholia, the SB will have 72 compot, and the 16 PDU will have 15 compot each, for a total of 312. That's assuming all the surrounding BATS and SB are pinned out.

But in practice, the Tholians will have some ships. They killed 6 this turn, not enough really as they still have 49. So if they kill 30 more during their remaining time in the war, which I would love to do but probably won't manage, they will still have 19, which should be more than plenty to deter the already-badly-overstretched Klingons. And the Romulans are in no position to help.

By Paul Howard (Raven) on Tuesday, September 08, 2020 - 03:01 am: Edit

I did have a serious look at attacking Tholia when it was 'nearly defenceless' - but although it probably would have fallen, the economic cost far exceeded the value.

Tactically it did make sense (as it would reduce to some degree the damage the Tholians could have done) - but it probably would have been recaptured (and then liberated by me again) - and so strategically, it wasn't a good idea.

So, I think it's fairly safe to say it's safe!

By Paul Howard (Raven) on Tuesday, September 08, 2020 - 05:49 am: Edit

First look at post combat and it's not as bad for the Federation as I thought.

Their South East Forces remain in full supply...

...and about 30 replacement fighters are not obtained by the Klingons in the South (the 2813 Supply Tug has got cut off - needed a single ship in 2515!!!!) - and a similar number in the north are not received as I outran the Klingon supply lines.

Fed Economy does look like it will be down around 113 though (plus very little NZ territory will be collected).

They do have a lot of Eps off map though to spend....

Kzinti and Hydrans have zero on map income, which is atleast some good news.

By William Jockusch (Verybadcat) on Tuesday, September 08, 2020 - 01:40 pm: Edit

As a part of its humanitarian mission, the Federation wants to provide full employment to Klingon dockyard workers, while simultaneously sparing the lives of Klingon fighter pilots. Not only that, but we will recover some territory. It's a threefer!

By William Jockusch (Verybadcat) on Wednesday, September 09, 2020 - 07:01 pm: Edit

Kzinti economy, turn 25

Survey roll 16
Survey total 261
Survey EP 20
Offmap 17
Total 37
Percentage 0.75
Income 27.75
Scrap Lyran FF 1
From last turn 2.25

Total Money 31

Repairs
FF, CMV 2.5

Builds
CMV 7
MEC 6
6FF 15

Total spending 30.5

Money after Econ 0.5

By William Jockusch (Verybadcat) on Wednesday, September 09, 2020 - 07:03 pm: Edit

Hydran economy, turn 25

Survey roll 5
Survey total 222
Survey EP 18
Offmap 17
Total before exhaustion 35
Percentage 0.75
Income 26.25
From last turn 0.25
Total Money 26.5

Repair
RN 2

Builds
RN 6
3CU 7.5
2HN 5

Conversion
PAL>LP 5

Total spending 25.5

Money after Econ 1
6CP available

By William Jockusch (Verybadcat) on Wednesday, September 09, 2020 - 07:07 pm: Edit

Federation economy, turn 25

Survey roll 28
Survey total 375
Survey EP 26
Offmap 6
Capital 59
Planets 8
Provinces 35
NZ 2

Income 136
From last turn 10.95

Total Money 146.95

Repairs
Earth 30
Near Earth 16
6th 14
BATS 9.5
Survey 2

Subtotal 71.5

Builds

10FF, 4FFE 46
4NAC 24
Subtotal 70

Conversions

NVS 2
CLE 1
2NAC 2
Subtotal 5

Total spent 146.5
Remaining after econ 0.45

Offmap satellite stockpile:

16EP from last turn
Repairs 6
Slated for Kzinti 10

9 fleet SB partial grid (2103)
6EP
supply and fighters 4
repairs 2
none left

Command points: 0+1=1

By William Jockusch (Verybadcat) on Wednesday, September 09, 2020 - 07:10 pm: Edit

Gorn economy, turn 25

Survey roll 4
Survey total 97
Survey EP 8
Offmap 12
Capital 24
Planets 6
Provinces 25
NZ 3.4

Income 78.4
From last turn 14.1

Total Money 92.5

Repairs
SW 8
Gdhar 2 6
Gdhar 3 4
Offmap 4
3801 1
Subtotal 23

Builds
2DD, 2DE 14
HV 13 (3FFF as shipyard was just finished)
HD, HDE 11
Subtotal 38

Conversion
Gdhar 2 HDE 1

Total spending 62

Money after Econ 30.5
Command points: 8+1=9

By William Jockusch (Verybadcat) on Wednesday, September 09, 2020 - 07:12 pm: Edit

Tholian economy, turn 25

Balance 2.9
Income 26.8
Total 29.7

Repairs 6
PDU 7
PC>PFT 5
6PF 3
3PC>DN 6

Remaining 2.7

Command points 2+1=3

By William Jockusch (Verybadcat) on Wednesday, September 09, 2020 - 10:42 pm: Edit

With the Third Way about to come online, the Feds built and converted 11 escorts. Not sure if I should have done more.

One thing I am sure of is that the much maligned ECL suddenly looks a whole lot better. I would have converted more of them had more CL been on SB.

By Richard Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Wednesday, September 09, 2020 - 11:28 pm: Edit

Why? Are you out of NCLs and DDs?

By William Jockusch (Verybadcat) on Thursday, September 10, 2020 - 07:06 am: Edit

Ran out of DDs ages ago, yes. Not close to out of NCLs, but I want them on the line. For example, if I have a line of CVBG with 6 escorts+something in form + 3NCL + scout, he needs 22 damage to kill anything. Having a CL on the line would ruin that.

The even DefPot is also less of a handicap in a CVBG. The spare fighters may eliminate the need to cripple anything, and if one does need to cripple something in the CVBG, chances are an NEC will be available.

By Paul Howard (Raven) on Tuesday, September 22, 2020 - 09:10 am: Edit

Well, the Lyrans are 3 Ep's better off with the first of two questions answered.

PF's replacements from the Strategic Movement rules...

...and to paraphrase why it is 'special' - there is no utilising of Strategic Movement capacity to replace them (i.e. it's free) and it occurs out of the normal turn order - and the PFT can be the end point of movement - but enemy ships can disrupt the replacements.

By Richard Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Tuesday, September 22, 2020 - 11:29 am: Edit

More or less what I had been saying. :p

By William Jockusch (Verybadcat) on Tuesday, September 22, 2020 - 12:13 pm: Edit

Paul we can wait until turn 26 for that. I don't believe in implementing this sort of thing right away.

By William Jockusch (Verybadcat) on Sunday, September 27, 2020 - 05:06 pm: Edit

We went ahead and did the Hydran front, including combat, while the rest is waiting for a supply ruling. The Hydran plan for the turn was to put up carrier lines, get some frigates killed, and see what they could accomplish in return.

They lost 3FF, while killing a mauler and an E4A. The Coalition also took a few crips.

By Paul Howard (Raven) on Monday, April 19, 2021 - 07:03 am: Edit

Have chased for a answer on the supply question - hopefully we can get moving again

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Sunday, September 26, 2021 - 02:06 pm: Edit

Deletion warning, resume or archive by 31 Dec 2021.

By William Jockusch (Verybadcat) on Thursday, September 30, 2021 - 04:30 am: Edit

Seems there is a willingness to continue this if the rules situation can be resolved. But that does not appear likely.

By William Jockusch (Verybadcat) on Monday, October 18, 2021 - 08:15 pm: Edit

A25 Fed econ changes for 9th fleet SB partial grid:

1EP spent on supply, not 4. Hordes of Kzinti fighters not refilled (41 I think it was).

3EP more spent on repairs.

Paul check your Slack for the move files.

By Paul Howard (Raven) on Tuesday, October 19, 2021 - 09:59 am: Edit

Hi WIlliam - will do!

Alas - although the Kzinti are in trouble - I don't think they are in as much trouble as some of the Lyran forces are.

The deep raids achieved some objectives... but that cost will need to be paid this turn

By Paul Howard (Raven) on Tuesday, October 19, 2021 - 03:24 pm: Edit

Hi William

Setting up Slack and copying the files to my new computer.... old one is on the way out!

By Paul Howard (Raven) on Tuesday, October 19, 2021 - 04:54 pm: Edit

Slack and Cyberboard all up and running - and ready to rock (but probably not roll - that uses Space Fuel and lots of ships are short of it!).

By William Jockusch (Verybadcat) on Thursday, October 21, 2021 - 08:32 am: Edit

Yes, the rolling was always your favorite part.