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Jean - please can you move this topic back to the active section? Thank you. Paul
On the game - currently the Romulans seems to be being pilled on again - and some of the Kzinti forces re-enter 'The True Patriarch' space trying to get back into Rebel (The Barony) Space.
Bulk of Federation space is yet to be moved though.
Still waiting to see where the main Federation hammers will fall....
........going to be a painful turn though....far too many crippled Coalition ships in Alliance space.
Romulans are going to feel a world of pain.
About the only very very very small silver lining is that I was able to react a BC into a hex with lots of crippled stuff - and not much uncrippled.
A successful pursuit would probably have forced me to self kill ships - but with the BC, I can probably cripple everything now.
Well, dice gods more or less continue the luck/unluckyness for the two sides.
Battle A - Alliance roll the lowest possible number to achieve the best kill (a SP) and Coalition roll the highest possible to avoid killing anything (didn't help BIR dropped 2).
Alliance capture another FH (should have self killed the already crippled SP and FH and avoid a pursuit roll and so just a single capture roll was made - so Alliance has done that twice now - with a CON and FH captured due to the successful pursuit and successful capture roll).
Battle B - 114 Alliance compot...BIR goes up 2 and William rolls a 6 (I rolled a 5) and William drops 46 damage on the Romulans.
Couple of non damage SSCs with high defensive values and low rolls for both sides.
yes but the dies are taunting me as the Gorns failed the pursuit for battle B.
Beat me to it!
For once a modest pursuit chance (1 or 2 Rom's would have died if caught) missed by the Alliance.
SSC has (probably) temporarily abandoned the Alliance also - with a Lyran DW living with a roll of 3 (+4 on dice) - although the DW did no casualties back and has had to cripple itself to avoid being retreated over.
Well, that didn't last long..
....about the best I can say, is I am rolling average (3.5)....alas William is hot - average 5.25 so far.
Even when my reserve turns up - he mugs me on Ep's (killed a Kz FF- but had to cripple a DWE, F5 and FF in the battle and pursuit).
Had a 2/3rd chance to kill it for basically taking just a single 1 Ep of damage.... and missed it.
Eeek - actually only needed 2+ with no change in VBIR.... so a 5/6th chance was missed.
Well, fair to say ...dice are being 'interesting'.
Coalition remain the master of missing a kill (or good hull) by 1 pip on the dice (a Fed CC lived as I got 26 damage - and so a FF died instead) - but for once, Alliance has missed two key persuit rolls this turn.
A massively battered Coalition fleet just about avoided heavy losses (and I so very nearly killed all the crippled ships of a BC, 3 x CW, CWE, DWE, CL - plus and uncrippled FF as William had rolled well - to avoid crippling the few remaining uncrippled ships in the hex AND the likely painfu persuit battle).
So a massively battered Coalition Fleet remains deep in Federation space - but may be back in supply at least.
Coalition have lost 13 hulls so far (including a FH which was captured and a PFW- as William got a good roll) and less than half of that in Alliance ships had died.
Well, A25 combat has ended- and probably fair to say - honours even on the dice.
Coalition have lost a stack of ships....and the Federation is very much following their rule of 'we will fight to the last Tholian'.
Not sure the Tholians agree! 
I think 26 Coalition Hulls died (1 captured) and 18 Alliance Hulls died (no captured, but I think 4 rolls to be made) - but that includes 8 Tholian ships - which seemed to have an Auto destruct button on EVERY bridge panel...
You only have to look at them and BOOM.
On the dice - finally hit an average turn for Romulan cloaks!
Alliance in key combats (bar 1) generally rolled pretty well - the Fed/Tholian assault on 2215 being the exception.
Coalition rolled well in irrelevant battles (or modest battles) and the Coalition reserve fleet destination battles didn't go as well as expected.
Only good Coalition combat rolls was over 2215 (other than the 1st round, so only 1 approach battle was fought) - where we did get an Auto Kill on the Alliance.
It does mean the Tholian Expeditionary Fleet can be re-created on A26 (so guessing it will go East against the Romulans or North into Fed Space) - as out of 9 ships in the main Tholian expeditionary fleet....only 2 lived.
The one area where for once the Alliance do really well - and didn't - was pursuit with 3 6's rolled out of 8 pursuits - with 2 major pursuits missed.
So honours pretty much even on dice.
Alliance relinked the Kzinti to their off map area and North West Fed Space is back in the main grid - so the major offensive worked.
One place where it perhaps didn't was Southern Federation space - with a couple of Coalition ships cutting supply to the the areas south of Orion. - with 14 ships Out of Supply.(although 6 will get base supply on C26)
Klingons in the central Federation space also are not currently in a good supply situation
A25 Map position summary (from the Coalition point of view 
)
Kzinti Front
Coalition are very happy with this front with the Kzinti are best to occasionly keep a supply route (but no Strategic Movement grid) into Federation space.
1401 is securely held with a SB (with PF's) and 9 PDU's (with PF's) on the Capital and 1 PDU (without PF's) on 3 other planets.
Hydran Front
Coalition remain very happy with this front, with the Hydrans remaining bottled up in the Old Colonies, but 617 has no defences.
Federation Front
Coalition are not happy with this front - far too many Klingon ships remain cut off and the stack of cripples only seems to increase each turn.
For once though, a Retrograde point (2509) was retained after the Alliance counterattacks.
About the only good news is that modest Coalition forces do remain in supply can hopefully counterattack in various directions.
Tholian Front - The Tholian attack has been held - but the damage has been done - with several planets stripped of defences. Once the Tholians go home - things should improve though.
Gorn Front - By far the greatest failure by the Coalition - the Gorns economy remains strong and their attacks led by multiple 10 Compot units are hard to slow down. The brief capture of their Shipyard didn't work (probably due to the number of CR10 or 9 compot or higher ships being captured) and the losses to Romulans ships I think exceeded the value of the destruction of the shipyard.
Trying to end on a positive for the Romulans - at least this turn, the Economy has improved from the last few turns!
Will be interesting to see what the Alliance thinks.
Jean/SVC - can this topic please be moved to the active games section?
Thank you
Thanks!
As we are waiting for a minor ruling (Detached Fleet for the Tholians).... we will roll a dice.
1-3 Nope - Tholians allocate like a Expeditionary Fleet (and so in phase 1 only)
4-6 - Yes - Killed Detached Fleets 'slots' can be re-allocated (in probably phase 8).
As long as we remember that new ships to the Detached Fleet must go through a hex with an existing Detached Fleet - I think that will limit the usage somewhat - although I still think it makes them too powerful and not within the rules
Once a ruling is given, we will go off the ruling.
A25 is done. The dead counts:
Z 3
H 3
F 8
G 1
T 8
K 18
L 9
R 10 (one captured)
Some Feds in Romulan space are unable to retro. They are generally short only a few fighters and will be in supply next turn.
A lot of Klingons in Fed space are also out of supply.
Totals Alliance 15, Coalition 37. Tholians do not count. The Alliance missed 3 big pursuit rolls. That hurt. We did kill a mauler and a Lyran PFT
3rd way on Deck!
A modest turn for both sides... the missed persuit rolls saved alot of cripples for me - and 2215 living (about the only hex for several turns where the Alliance did roll very badly).
Alliance captured another good Romulan ship though so probably honours even.
Lots of out of supply stuff though - the odd ship here or there has causes problems for both sides.
Tholain roll came up a 3 - so only can be designated at the start of the Alliance turn (in effect same phase as Expeditionary Fleets).
About the only good news with the death of alot of Tholian ships is - afew more might allow me to attack Tholian space (unlikely - but you never know!).
Normally I've done a fleet count every even-numbered turn. This time however, I want to break out the effects of the 3rd way and the second stage of exhaustion. Therefore, I did a fleet count at the end of turn 25. The red numbers are the change from ONE turn ago:
| Uncrippled | Crips | Total |
| Z | 55 | 6 | 61(+2) |
| H | 48 | 0 | 48(+3) |
| F | 237 | 45 | 282(+0) |
| G | 87 | 16 | 103(+3) |
| Alliance | 427(+58) | 67(-50) | 494(+8) |
| L | 139 | 65 | 204(+2) |
| K | 207 | 137 | 344(-5) |
| R | 87 | 38 | 125(-6) |
| Coalition | 433(+9) | 240(-18) | 673(-9) |
The +17 net is reasonable. Still not enough to make up or the pathetic +4 over the previous two turns.
Both sides improved their repair situation; the Alliance more than the Coalition. That could turn out to be significant.
C26
Eeekk. what is this 50% Income rule?
Economics
Lyrans income is 75.3, balance 1.875 (and 3 Command Points)
They build 3 x CW, 2 x DW, 3 x FF and convert a CW to a CVL.
40 Eps spent on repairs
Klignon income is 101, balance 0.45 (and 2 Command Points)
They build D5V, 7 x D5, 7, x F5 (1 down sub from the D7) and 3 x E4.
31.5 Eps spent on repairs
Romulan income is 60.1, balance 0.33125 (and 5 Command Points)
They build SPH, SPB, 2 x SP, 3 x SK and a BHE.
22.5 Eps spent on repairs.
They also upgrade 1 Klingon and 1 Lyran Homeless Supply to Carrier Status (totals being 12/4 and 4/1) for 2 Ep's.
Full Economic Exhaustion has caused the cancelling of a couple of War Hulls to get more crippled ships back into action. Numerically the drop from 100% to 75% and from 75% to 50% is the same, but losing 1/3rd of your previous turns income is noticeable!
Survey for once was nice, with rolls of 11, 12 and 12 and both the Klingons and Romulans finding their next provinces.
Supply Tugs get half the Klingons forces in Federation space back into supply (no replacement PF's for front line PFT's though) and a switch of supplied ships allows some of the empty Klingon and Lyran ships near the Federation/Gorn border to get replacement fighters.
3 Klingon Carriers only have ship supply - a B10, D5V and a FV (from CL54 IIRC).
Onwards to (probable) victory!
Plans Plans Plans.
Alas the good Coalition defence on A25 cutting large amounts of Feds of from supply.... disappears on C26 as the newly captured planets get them back into supply.
And hurrah - first time we get to play with the Fed Third Way!
So not sure what to do!
Wipe them out. All of them.
Sorry...think the Alliance have copyrighted that for use with the Tholians
How about..."Bring them flowers. And water them?"
We are the peace loving Coalition after all!!
C26 op move is under way. The Romulans have a pinning fleet on a Gorn SB but otherwise don't appear to have much interest in Gorn space at the moment. It look like they want to retake planet 4309, which is currently held by a small-but-powerful Gorn fleet. They still have a lot of unmoved ships.
About half way through Op moves...
Romulans have indeed avoided alot of Gorn space.
Feds hopefully will be pressured a bit more though!
Did mess up one small attack - should have pinned 2306 before attacking the small ships in 2406 - as a Fed Carrier Tug made a good SSC in my favour - a small Combat in neithers favour.
Op move continues. The Coalition appears to have dialed back its ambitions. They are not moving towards Earth this turn. The Romulans have a bunch of unmoved ships that can surely cause trouble for the Fed 6th fleet SB region, and possibly also further North.
The Coalition will definitely take some Fed minors. Possibilities include 2106 (K/Z border), 2715 (near the Tholians), 2610 (4 hexes from Earth), the two minors adjacent to the 6th fleet SB, and 3706 (Gorn border). They could even push for major 3706, which the Feds just retook. They may also retake 4309 (R/G neutral planet). Reserves are within range of all of these, so it is likely to come down to who wants what how badly.
Well, first - ALWAYS look at the map FULLY before doing anything.
About 40% of the way through my op moves... - it struck me how weak the Sol System area was!
There was only about 30 ships in the core province - and 30 dotted around it within reaction range.
With some luck - I might have got a modest number of ships into Sol (prior to Double PDU fighters) to do some damage - but Klingon Supply would have been an issue.
I had used to many forces which would have been required on other area though!
So I skirted around the NW Fed area and most of Sol - to get enough hulls into 2106 and 2610 to win them ...
...and depending on where the reserves go, 2306, 3210, 3612, 3912 or 3706 will probably fall.
3711 and 2715 will also fall (outside of Reserve range or not defended.
The Kzinti Pretender forces should be evicted from the loyal 1501 province too.
No combat will occur on the Hydran front with Loyal forces once more trying to find a path into the Hydran Old Colonies area.
Everything should be in supply for Combat.
The bulk of the batterered fleets which were cut off have either escaped or should be able to escape after combat.
So, some of the secondary aims have been achieved.
I did also seriously consider raiding the Gorn capital - but I was about 3 ships short of having a chance of re-capturing Gdhar I - but having no retrograde point, I went for the easier option to liberate 4309.
The Combined Coalition assault over 3706 should be fun though (Lyrans, Klingons and Romulans all involved).
Onto the Evil Alliance and their reserves....